SaaS Scaling Secrets Unlocked
Welcome to SaaS Scaling Secrets Unlocked the podcast where top SaaS founders, HighLevel white-label legends, and 7-figure entrepreneurs reveal the real strategies, systems, and secrets behind building scalable, profitable businesses.
SaaS Dads Season 3 Episode 2: From Failed Agency to HighLevel’s Rocket Ship with Chase Buckner
Gary introduces Chase as one of HighLevel’s most senior people, and for good reason, Chase has been with HighLevel for almost seven years and has held multiple roles across customer success, content and education, sales and marketing, and product marketing.
In this episode, Gary and Chase go back through that journey. Chase talks about starting out as a high school English teacher, moving into digital marketing, building an agency that ultimately failed, finding the right business partner, growing a seven-figure agency, and then discovering HighLevel at a time when the company was still in its early days. He also shares the family side of that journey.
Chase is a dad of three boys, and he talks about what he learned from becoming a father, how his experience as a teacher influenced the way he parents, and how family life developed alongside the growth of his career.
Gary and Chase discuss:
👉 Being a dad of three boys
👉 What Chase learned from teaching and how it carried into parenting
👉 His first agency failing around the time his first son was born
👉 Finding the right business partner
👉 The relationship between salespeople and operators
👉 Growing a seven-figure agency
👉 Why operators need to recognise when sales is not their strength
👉 The event that eventually led Chase to discover HighLevel
👉 Joining HighLevel during its early days
👉 The different leadership roles Chase has held inside HighLevel
👉 Watching HighLevel grow from a small startup to more than 2,000 employees
👉 The “skateboard” approach to product development
👉 Why HighLevel focuses on getting products into the hands of users quickly and learning from feedback
👉 Leadership, humility and dealing with criticism
👉 How AI is changing HighLevel
👉 Ask AI, managed agents and where Chase sees the next era of HighLevel developing
👉 Why AI is moving too quickly to predict too far ahead
👉 What Chase says people can expect to hear more about at Level Up
Chase also explains how being around the right people, attending events and meeting other agency owners played a major role in the path that eventually brought him into HighLevel.
This is a conversation with someone who has seen HighLevel from its early startup days through to where it is now, while also building a family and navigating multiple stages of business along the way.
🎙️ Featuring Gary Capps and Chase Buckner
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25 Sept 2026
SaaS Dads Is Back! Season 3, Episode 1: Surviving SaaS in the AI Era with Bryce DeCora
Season 3 of SaaS Dads starts with Bryce DeCora from CloseBot returning to the podcast with Gary Capps.
Bryce was Gary’s first guest when SaaS Dads originally launched, and in this episode they revisit the conversation that helped inspire the podcast in the first place, what it is really like balancing life as a SaaS founder, a dad, and someone trying to keep building a business in a fast-changing market.
Gary and Bryce talk openly about family, business, AI, customer support, SaaS growth, product focus and how much the software landscape has changed since their first conversation.
In this episode, they discuss:
👨👩👧👦 Bryce becoming a dad of three and balancing family life
🌳 Staying flexible while managing business and family
💻 The realities of running and growing a SaaS company
📉 Growth plateaus and the changing software market
🤖 How rapidly AI has changed over the past year
🛠️ Vibe coding and people choosing to build their own software
🎯 Why CloseBot continues to stay focused on conversational AI
📊 How data and analytics are being used inside CloseBot
💬 The challenges of customer support and customer expectations
❌ Why Bryce tries to understand why customers cancel
🧠 Product focus and why every new feature can create additional cost and complexity
Bryce also shares what CloseBot is working toward next, including more research around conversational AI, analytics, its MCP and further development around how AI can use data to improve sales agents.
Gary and Bryce also discuss the bigger question facing SaaS founders today:
How do you continue building when AI, software and customer expectations are changing this quickly?
Welcome back to SaaS Dads Season 3.
🎙️ Featuring Gary Capps & Bryce DeCora
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25 Jun 2026
SaaS Dads S2/E16: She Toured the World in a Flying Car… Now She's Teaching the World How to Use AI
Most people pick a lane.
Molly Mahoney picked several and somehow made them all work.
Professional musical theater performer. National tour of Chitty Bang Bang. Knitting and crocheting business. Camera confidence coach. Messenger bot expert. AI educator. Broadway producer.
Oh, and mum to two boys aged 12 and 14 who between them have sold $1 drawings on Facebook Live, presented at business events in their backyard, and done a live stream with a SamCart co-founder to build a sales page at age 11.
This is one of those conversations that goes everywhere and somehow ties together perfectly at the end.
In this episode Molly gets beautifully honest about:
👉 Touring the world in a flying car and how that led to everything that came after
👉 Starting a business while baby-wearing and teaching dance classes with a baby on her back
👉 Her 12-year-old son who is basically an 80-year-old man in a child's body who hates AI
👉 Why she didn't let her kids play Fortnite and what they found instead
👉 The affiliate competition she nearly won and the Tesla she lost because of what she kept saying out loud
👉 Her son asking to come on a business trip to Gay Hendricks' house and why she said yes
👉 The sparkly boulder moment when everything in her business fell apart at once
👉 Losing her mum, tearing the cartilage in her wrist and her dog dying on her husband's birthday all at the same time
👉 How she got from Broadway opening night to a Tony Robbins stage in less than 12 hours
👉 Why frameworks equal freedom and what that means for SaaS mums everywhere
👉 The tickle points that most people completely miss when building their brand
👉 Why the humans behind the brand matter more than ever in an AI world
This one is warm, funny, sparkly and genuinely moving all at the same time.
Molly is proof that the weirdest path forward is usually the right one. And that staying calm through the chaos is the actual superpower that makes everything else possible.
🙏 🎧 You need this one today.
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