Welcome to Safeguarding Redefined, a podcast by Cornerstone Safeguarding.
We explore everything from child protection to adult safeguarding, with expert guests sharing valuable insights and real-world experience.
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Please note: Some of the topics we’ll be discussing may be sensitive in nature and may trigger strong emotions.
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She Finally Left. So Why Didn't the Abuse Stop? | Hidden Safeguarding: What You Don't See
Content warning: This episode discusses domestic abuse, physical violence, coercive control and trauma.
"Why didn't she just leave?"
It's a question we've all heard, and maybe we've asked ourselves.
But what happens when she finally does, and the abuse doesn't stop?
In this powerful and deeply personal episode, Chris is joined by Charlotte Budd, founder of The Wholeness Project, who shares her experience of domestic abuse and the terrifying reality of life after leaving.
From coercive control and financial abuse to ongoing threats and a traumatic battle through the family courts, Charlotte reveals how escaping an abuser doesn't necessarily mean escaping their control.
Together, they challenge the victim-blaming attitudes that surround domestic abuse, question whether the systems designed to protect survivors and their children are actually keeping them safe, and explore what schools and safeguarding professionals need to understand about the abuse they don't see.
Because leaving an abusive relationship and finally being free from abuse are two very different things.
Find out more from Charlotte Budd:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlotte-budd-20221425a/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlotte-budd-20221425a/)
https://www.thewholenessproject.co.uk/ (https://www.thewholenessproject.co.uk/)
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Producers of this episode: Chris East, Leah East
Host of this episode: Chris East
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Chris East on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-east-801496174/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-east-801496174/)
Leah East on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leah-east-cornerstone/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/leah-east-cornerstone/)
11 Sept 2026
The Secret He Kept for 19 Years: Something to Say | Hidden Safeguarding: What You Don’t See
Jeremy was eight when the abuse ended.
He was 27 before he spoke about it.
Not because there was one obvious barrier stopping him.
For years, there simply wasn’t a conversation around him that helped him understand that he had something to say.
In our second episode of Hidden Safeguarding: What You Don’t See, Chris is joined by child sexual abuse survivor and campaigner Jeremy Indika for a conversation that challenges some of the safeguarding messages we’ve relied on for years.
What if abuse doesn’t feel scary?
What if a child experiencing it doesn’t look withdrawn or distressed?
What if they’re happy, sociable, successful… and nobody suspects a thing?
Jeremy didn’t fit the picture we’re often taught to look for.
Together, they explore why grooming can feel like warmth, attention or even love. Why there may be no obvious signs. Why telling children to “tell someone” isn’t enough. And why young people need to know what will actually happen if they tell us.
Because perhaps we’ve been asking:
“How will we know if something is wrong?”
When we should be asking:
“Have we created an environment where they would tell us?”
About Jeremy
Jeremy Indika is a male survivor of child sexual abuse who now shares his story in creative and powerful ways to raise awareness and challenge the stigma surrounding abuse.
Through film, animation, illustration and speaking directly with children, young people and professionals, Jeremy is helping to create conversations around a subject that can still feel incredibly difficult to talk about.
Connect with Jeremy:
https://jeremyindika.com/ (https://jeremyindika.com/)
LinkedIn: (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremy-indika-31673573/) https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremy-indika-31673573/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremy-indika-31673573/)
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Producers of this episode: Chris East, Leah East
Host of this episode: Chris East
Useful Links:
https://buymeacoffee.com/cornerstonesafeguarding (https://buymeacoffee.com/cornerstonesafeguarding) - Every coffee you buy helps us keep creating practical tools and content for safeguarding professionals like you
To find out more about Cornerstone Safeguarding - www.CornerstoneSafeguarding.co.uk (http://www.cornerstonesafeguarding.co.uk)
Email us at Cornerstone: info@cornerstonesafeguarding.co.uk (mailto:info@cornerstonesafeguarding.co.uk)
Book in a meeting to discuss your safeguarding needs:
https://calendar.google.com/calendar/appointments/schedules/AcZssZ0ZwllED1_R0eAmzurUNbXW6dk92TtCp9BE8oysOnlPwBl3L2vNEooyvSJ3fQaQBk_q1onKflh4 (https://calendar.google.com/calendar/appointments/schedules/AcZssZ0ZwllED1_R0eAmzurUNbXW6dk92TtCp9BE8oysOnlPwBl3L2vNEooyvSJ3fQaQBk_q1onKflh4)
Subscribe to Cornerstone Connect -
https://cornerstonesafeguarding.co.uk/resources/cornerstone-connect-sign-up/ (https://cornerstonesafeguarding.co.uk/resources/cornerstone-connect-sign-up/)
- for fresh safeguarding insights, priority access to support, and exclusive discounts.
Chris East on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-east-801496174/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-east-801496174/)
Leah East on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leah-east-cornerstone/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/leah-east-cornerstone/)
28 Aug 2026
When Sh!t Gets Real | Hidden Safeguarding: What You Don’t See
One had 40 minutes to make a decision that would change his life.
The other went into hospital expecting routine surgery and woke up with a stoma after doctors discovered a rare form of bowel cancer.
For our two guests, Kev and Ferenc, everything changed in ways most of us will never see or fully understand.
In this first episode of our ‘Hidden Safeguarding’ series, we're not sanitising any of it.
Our guests talk openly about the realities of living with a stoma, the moments that have pushed them to their limits, the humour they've found along the way and what they wish other people understood.
Yet this episode is about more than just stomas.
It's about the assumptions we make when someone looks ‘fine’ on the outside, but also remembering that the person standing in front of you might be managing something you know absolutely nothing about.
Some of the biggest things people are dealing with are the things we can't see.
Welcome to Hidden Safeguarding.
Useful Links:
https://buymeacoffee.com/cornerstonesafeguarding (https://buymeacoffee.com/cornerstonesafeguarding) - Every coffee you buy helps us keep creating practical tools and content for safeguarding professionals like you
To find out more about Cornerstone Safeguarding - www.CornerstoneSafeguarding.co.uk (http://www.cornerstonesafeguarding.co.uk)
Email us at Cornerstone: info@cornerstonesafeguarding.co.uk (mailto:info@cornerstonesafeguarding.co.uk)
Book in a meeting to discuss your safeguarding needs:
https://calendar.google.com/calendar/appointments/schedules/AcZssZ0ZwllED1_R0eAmzurUNbXW6dk92TtCp9BE8oysOnlPwBl3L2vNEooyvSJ3fQaQBk_q1onKflh4 (https://calendar.google.com/calendar/appointments/schedules/AcZssZ0ZwllED1_R0eAmzurUNbXW6dk92TtCp9BE8oysOnlPwBl3L2vNEooyvSJ3fQaQBk_q1onKflh4)
Subscribe to Cornerstone Connect -
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- for fresh safeguarding insights, priority access to support, and exclusive discounts.
Chris East on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-east-801496174/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-east-801496174/)
Leah East on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leah-east-cornerstone/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/leah-east-cornerstone/)
Producers of this episode: Chris East, Leah East
Host of this episode: Chris East
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