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- 2021
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About Same Here, Man
Marie and Lou are fascinated with childhood, pop culture, and our perceptions of children through moral panics. Each episode we will dive into a new topic to investigate what is relevant, harmful, joyful, and a small part of all of us. Won't you join us and THINK OF THE CHILDREN? /s
- Publisher
- Lucille and Frankie Mills
- Category
- society & culture
- Language
- en
- Explicit
- Yes
- First episode
- 24 Nov 2021
- Latest episode
- 2 Mar 2023
Latest episodes
18 episodes in the feed.
2 Mar 2023
Childhood Ruiners - Harry Potter Edition
Oh boy, if we could only Riddikulus this one away. Lou and Frankie delve into the wizarding world as the entry point to the question: what do you do with a childhood joy that isn't so... Joyful? Tangents include Hershey's Chocolate, the importance of recycling, and of course... Twilight. Whatever you decide to enjoy in this brief life, we love you for listening and hope you find all the happiness! ------ Support the show with merch from samehereman.com! (//samehereman.com) Don't Desecrate the Hosts, email them instead: sameheremanpod@gmail.com Follow the show on Twitter (https://twitter.com/sameheremanpod) and TikTok (//www.TikTok.com/@samehereman.pod)
16 Feb 2023
Childhood Chores and Big News
Spin the Chore Wheel and join Lucille and Marie and... Francine (!) as we delve into the world of childhood house and yard work! We talk about the different things parents obsess over and how it makes for different perspectives as we clean our homes in adult life, Marie tortures the Mills sisters with a Christian Chore Song (linked below), and Francine insists that a housekeeper and a nanny are the same. Give Frankie (Francine) a big welcome to the show, and send Marie and her new little one all the love in the world! ---- Email the show at sameheremanpod@gmail.com Visit the show (with merch!) at samehereman.com (//samehereman.com) Follow the show on Twitter (//twitter.com/sameheremanpod) or TikTok (//TikTok.com/@samehereman.pod) Listen to a cursed chore song on YouTube (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjktNjNlpj9AhX8ADQIHddwD5QQFnoECAkQAw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DJmtf3YWMsGk&usg=AOvVaw1N75pyNZSVzHmvZXN6dRP1)
30 Jan 2023
Corporal Punishment Spectacular
Lou and Marie strap in for a bumpy ride through the (unnecessarily) rough terrain of spanking and more. Marie shares a story of corporal punishment in school, Lou spent all the podcast money on a Time Machine, and you'll know who has a strange internet search history by the end of this episode. As a bonus, you can hear Lucille's Roomba in the background if you listen really hard. CP and CSA are rough topics. Please take care of yourself, and don't listen to this episode in a compromising environment. We love you. ---- email the show at sameheremanpod@gmail.com (//sameheremanpod@gmail.com) follow us on Twitter (https://twitter.com/sameheremanpod) or TikTok (https://www.tiktok.com/@samehereman.pod?lang=en) Visit the show page here (including a link to merch!) (//samehereman.com) LINKS PubMed study of Corporal Punishment in Schools (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5766273/) Effective Discipline by the American Association of Pediatrics (https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/142/6/e20183112/37452/Effective-Discipline-to-Raise-Healthy-Children) College Students and Crime related to CP (2013) (https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/11/131122103621.htm) Survey of Corporal Punishment (2019) (https://www.unh.edu/ccrc/sites/default/files/media/2022-02/corporal-punishment-current-rates-from-a-national-survey.pdf)
13 Jan 2023
The December Dilemma
Happy Gregorian New Year, Same Here Squad! Marie Renee and Lucille are back to talk about a viral Christmas-in-schools Twitter thread, with detours involving palm trees, Barbara Walters, and more. Thanks for listening, rating, reviewing, sharing, and all that good stuff. ---- A link to read what we're reading: Twitter Thread by @justsayxian (https://twitter.com/JustSayXtian/status/1598015638718787584?s=20&t=UuiDc0LTzU70PPx4dA9_Ww) Want to read more about us or support the show with merch? Visit the website! (//samehereman.com)
27 Dec 2022
An American Childhood Dream
Marie and Lou talk a grab-bag of Americana, featuring the participation trophy fallacy, the American Dream®, and the weird context of "achieve anything" when set next to watching adults try and fail... and try again. This episode was recorded before Marie's pregnancy, and before Lucille lost her dad, so it may sound a bit off in the timeline. Find the podcast and fun merch at samehereman.com (//samehereman.com) Send us a message, idea, or voice memo at sameheremanpod@gmail.com
5 Dec 2022
The Changing of Lenses
Guess who is still alive and kicking! Marie and Lou reconvene to discuss the many events of 2022, and (spoiler alert) they have a lot to do with the childhood conversation. Some teasers for future episodes include the gentle parenting bonanza, the transition from child to parent, and more. This episode includes conversation about death, birth, religion, and illness. Find us on the internet at samehereman.com (//samehereman.com) -------- write to us with your questions and episode requests at sameheremanpod@gmail.com
16 Feb 2022
Revenge of the Mommy Blogger
Lou and Marie share, like, and subscribe their way down a dark rabbit hole where kids are more valuable on-camera than off-camera. Lou drafts a history of the (online) world and Marie follows closely behind to pick up the pieces. Some of the kids plastered all over the internet before they lost their last tooth are now old enough to say something about it, and the Same Here Squad bets money that it isn't what adults want to hear. Announcement: Same Here, Man is taking a 3-4 week break after this, and will be back with some great big topics to dive into! Please write to us in the meantime. (https://samehereman.wordpress.com/#message-us) LINKS ---- Follow us on the internet! (twitter) (//twitter.com/sameheremanpod) (instagram) (//instagram.com/sameheremanpod) (our homepage) (//samehereman.com) Support the show with MERCH (https://www.teepublic.com/stores/samehereman?ref_id=25864) “Did Moms Exist Before Social Media?” (NYT, 2019 (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/16/parenting/mommy-influencers.html)) “Suffused by Feeling and Affect: The Intimate Public of Personal Mommy Blogging” by Aimée Morrison, 2011 (https://www.jstor.org/stable/23541177) “What Ever Happened to the Mommy Blog?” (The Chicago Tribune, 2018) (https://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/parenting/ct-mommy-blog-disappear-20180129-story.html) “My Mom is an Influencer. I’m Sick of Being a Part of it.” (Reddit, 2017) (https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/evqd98/aita_my_mom_is_an_influencer_i_am_sick_of_being_a/) “My Daughter Asked Me to Stop Writing About Motherhood. Here’s Why I Can’t Do That.” (Washington Post, 2019) (https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2019/01/03/my-daughter-asked-me-stop-writing-about-motherhood-heres-why-i-cant-do-that/) “That Outrageous Mommy Blogger Who Refuses to Stop Writing About Her Kid Highlights a Key Parent-Child Generational Gap” (Slate, 2019) (https://slate.com/human-interest/2019/01/mommy-blogging-christie-tate-generation-gap.html) An Excerpt from John Holt’s “Escape from Childhood: The Needs and Rights of Children” (1974) (https://www.naturalchild.org/articles/guest/john_holt4.html) “Against Cuteness” (Slate, 2018) (https://slate.com/human-interest/2018/02/the-branding-of-adorable-social-media-child-stars-is-bad-news-for-our-relationships-with-real-children.html) “Is it Ethical to Post Pictures of Your Kids on Instagram?” (New Republic, 2018) (https://newrepublic.com/article/152658/ethical-post-pictures-kids-instagram)
9 Feb 2022
Kidfluencers
Marie and Lou peel back layers of sponsored content and enabled cookies to find out exactly what it means to make minors into influencers. It begins with predictably corporate reactions to a lawsuit, includes the weirdness that is sponsorship, and ends with hard questions. Is this a moral panic in the making? Is it exploitation? Is consent even a part of the equation? Tangents include ASMR, memes, and childhood crushes. ---- LINKS Send us your questions and topics at samehereman.com (https://samehereman.wordpress.com/#message-us) Kid influencers: Few rules, big money (2019 documentary) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XkaSouYTbg) Google and YouTube Will Pay Record $170 Million for Alleged Violations of Children’s Privacy Law (FTC) (https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2019/09/google-youtube-will-pay-record-170-million-alleged-violations) Why Child Social Media Stars Need a Coogan Law to Protect Them From Parents (Hollywood Reporter) (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/why-child-social-media-stars-need-a-coogan-law-protect-parents-1230968/) Branding Kidfluencers: Regulating Content and Advertising on YouTube (2021) (https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/15274764211052882)
5 Feb 2022
The Tooth Fairy
Lucille reminds Marie about how icky losing teeth is (very). Where did the tooth fairy come from, and why does she want our mouth bones? Is there a method behind why we use this myth? Side plots include the British Medical Journal, sexy fairies, Victorian jewelry, and Dwayne Johnson. ---- LINKS Follow the show and learn more about us at SameHereMan.com (//samehereman.com) "The Tooth Fairy: Perspectives on Money and Magic” by Tad Tuleja (https://tinyurl.com/4nvzsxmp) “Children’s Myths and Their Significance” Human Development Journal (2000) (https://www.jstor.org/stable/26763444) “Cost of Tooth Fairy on the Rise” British Medical Journal (https://www.jstor.org/stable/23493923) “The Tooth Fairy and Malpractice” British Medical Journal (2012) (https://www.jstor.org/stable/23493384)
26 Jan 2022
Now That's What I Call Nostalgia
Marie takes Lucille on a tour of Nostalgia-ville. Is it innate or cultural? Where does it come from? And most importantly, how angry can Marie get Lou to be over corporate co-opting of nostalgia for marketing? Field trips include Lisa Frank, the meme account ThirtyAF (https://www.instagram.com/iamthirtyaf/?hl=en), and snarky clothing from the 00's. ---- LINKS Support the show with MERCH (https://www.teepublic.com/stores/samehereman?ref_id=25864)! Follow the pod on Twitter (https://twitter.com/sameheremanpod), Instagram (https://instagram.com/sameheremanpod), and samehereman.com (https://samehereman.com/) A fun exposé on Smellitizers by Duchess of Disneyland (https://duchessofdisneyland.com/tips-trivia/smellitizers/) What Ever Happened to Nostalgia (The Diagnosis) - Abstract from JNMD (https://journals.lww.com/jonmd/Abstract/2021/09000/What_Ever_Happened_to_Nostalgia__the_Diagnosis__.2.aspx) Nostalgia Weakens the Desire for Money - JCR (https://doi.org/10.1086/677227)
19 Jan 2022
The Lore of Frog and Toad
Lucille dunks Marie headfirst into the world of Frog and Toad, the beloved children's works by Arnold Lobel. They read from "Shivers," a bunch of Language Arts Journals, and avoid reading an angry blog or two. Lou's partner clinks dishes in the background for ambiance. Tangents include Disneyland, living with amphibians, pandemics, and unconventionally happy endings. ---- LINKS Follow the pod on Twitter (//twitter.com/sameheremanpod), Instagram (//instagram.com/sameheremanpod), and samehereman.com (//samehereman.com) "Profile: Arnold Lobel," Language Arts Journal (1988) (http://www.jstor.org/stable/41411414) “The Adult as Critic vs. The Child as Reader.” Language Arts Journal (1980) (http://www.jstor.org/stable/41404997) An Essay on Frog and Toad by Se Fleenor on Electric Lit (2019) (https://electricliterature.com/frog-and-toad-are-queer-relationship-goals/) Frog and Toad in the New Yorker (2016) (https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/frog-and-toad-an-amphibious-celebration-of-same-sex-love)
12 Jan 2022
Kids and Conflict
Marie teaches Lucille about Conflict Style Theory, and how (surprise) the conflicts we observe in childhood set us up to view differing needs for the rest of our lives. Distractions include whether Chipotle is preferable to Taco Bell, astrology, and angry dads. New episodes every Wednesday ---- LINKS Keep up with us on Twitter (//twitter.com/sameheremanpod), Instagram (//instagram.com/sameheremanpod), and our Website (//samehereman.wordpress.com) "Adolescents' Conflict Management Styles with Mothers" (2017) (https://link.springer.com/epdf/10.1007/s10964-017-0634-3?sharing_token=cr5Zh72gXNn-pmMY66QIxfe4RwlQNchNByi7wbcMAY5Eqe8wfXh8XZJbUQymcwEeGN4k43Q-MqhMNm5zEy7YQ3y6ZJbGF4gVufUAu_nn9Vk05XjfjQknuWbT_F5XsXkrh04y1ZVLWgN2XQL0N35eXo6B_EWkMb67IwutjnILIKA%3D) "Family Secrets: The Roles of Family Communication Patterns and Conflict Styles between Parents and Young Adult Children" (2018) (https://content.ebscohost.com/ContentServer.asp?T=P&P=AN&K=129059149&S=R&D=ufh&EbscoContent=dGJyMNLr40Sep684yNfsOLCmsEqep7ZSsay4SrWWxWXS&ContentCustomer=dGJyMPGut1Cyrq9NuePfgeyx44Dt6fIA) ---- Please rate/review and share with your friends!
24 Dec 2021
Elf on the Shelf vs. Humanity
Christmas Bonus! Lucille learns that Marie has no idea what "The Elf" is or does. They dive into a (poorly constructed) lore to figure out the answers to their questions, including but not limited to: "Where did this Elf come from?" "What does he want from us?" and, "Does he know we're broke? I mean, he's not going to kill us, right?" Distractions include Where the Wild Things Are, the weirdness of the Home Shopping Network, and thankless motherhood. Available while supplies last, restrictions apply, results may vary. ----- LINKS Follow us on twitter (//twitter.com/sameheremanpod) or instagram (//instagram.com/sameheremanpod) at @sameheremanpod Email us your stories, complaints, hopes and dreams at sameheremanpod@gmail.com "You're a Creepy One, Elf on the Shelf" (The Atlantic) (https://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/archive/2012/12/youre-a-creepy-one-elf-on-the-shelf/266002/?single_page=true) "The Elf that Stole Christmas" (Inc) (https://www.inc.com/magazine/201112/the-elf-that-stole-christmas.html?nav=next) Leave a review, share with your friends, and we'll see you next time!
22 Dec 2021
Purity Culture pt. 2 - "Mature Content," or Just Adult Discomfort?
Lucille extends the conversation of childhood innocence to the forced purity and virginity of older children. Marie reads long, detailed lists of purported masturbation side effects from the late 19th century. We listen in on a dinner party together (thanks for sharing your experience with us, Andrea!) and pick apart Christian church metaphors for virginity. Distractions include chastity belts, corn flakes, Emma Stone, and why buying a car sucks. Spoiler: it's a major buzzkill to discuss the ways in which we are set up to fail, specifically by systems and adults who think they're doing the opposite. New Episodes on Wednesdays Follow the podcast on twitter (//twitter.com/sameheremanpod) and instagram (//instagram.com/sameheremanpod) @sameheremanpod Send us your stories at sameheremanpod@gmail.com ---- LINKS Sex Education with Young Children, Young Children Journal 1980 (http://www.jstor.org/stable/42642837) “Technology for the Prevention of ‘Les Maladies Produites Par La Masturbation.’” Technology and Culture (1987) (https://doi.org/10.2307/3105184) Surgeon General Resigns In Masturbation Row. (1994). BMJ: British Medical Journal (http://www.jstor.org/stable/29725808) Call Children’s Private Body Parts What They Are (Psychology Today)
15 Dec 2021
Purity Culture pt. 1 - Innocent Until Proven... Adult?
Lou and Marie dig up the roots of "childhood innocence," tracing the role of children through history and capitalism. Lucille makes Marie read a mommy blog. Tangents include Freud, the moral panic around Critical Race Theory, and the Industrial Revolution. This episode will provide valuable background to the next Purity Culture episode, when childhood innocence shapes how we view/hate/[attempt to]control teenagers. New Episodes on Wednesdays Follow the podcast on twitter (//twitter.com/sameheremanpod) and instagram (//instagram.com/sameheremanpod) @sameheremanpod Send us your stories at sameheremanpod@gmail.com ---- LINKS Lisa Farley's Essay, "Innocence" (2020) (https://doi.org/10.2307/j.ctv1jf2c49.6) Child Labor in America: History, Policy, and Legislative Issues (https://www.everycrsreport.com/reports/RL31501.html)
8 Dec 2021
Marie Renee vs. Food
Marie tells Lucille about the diet culture of the Katz household in the early 2000s. Lou screams in frustration at youth-targeted weight-loss grifts. Detours include Q-Anon, Crohn's disease, and the economics of Halloween candy. They hope the listeners will interpret Marie's volume as passion, rather than a recording error. Follow the podcast on Twitter (//twitter.com/sameheremanpod) and Instagram (//instagram.com/sameheremanpod) Send us your thoughts at sameheremanpod@gmail.com ---- LINKS "Mother-reported parental weight talk and adolescent girls’ emotional health, weight control attempts, and disordered eating behaviors" from the Journal of Eating Disorders, 2013 (https://jeatdisord.biomedcentral.com/track/pdf/10.1186/2050-2974-1-45.pdf) "The effect of human chorionic gonadotropin (HCG) in the treatment of obesity by means of the Simeons therapy: a criteria-based meta-analysis" from the British Journal of Clinical Pharmacology (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1365103/) National Eating Disorders Association support line/chat (https://www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/help-support/contact-helpline)
1 Dec 2021
Lucille vs. Parentification
Lou tells Marie all about the phenomenon of parentifying children, ranging from her own experiences to some larger classic examples. Marie talks about the "right" way to clean a bathroom, Lou shares a snippet about Deaf history, and Kevin (Lou's cat) interjects. Lou also doesn't know how to stay close to the microphone whilst pondering difficult moments. --- New episodes out on Wednesdays Find Same Here, Man on twitter (https://twitter.com/sameheremanpod) and instagram (//instagram.com/sameheremanpod) Email us at sameheremanpod@gmail.com Music by KETSA (//ketsa.uk)
24 Nov 2021
Why are we here?
So, like... What are we here for? Meet Lucille (Lou) Mills and Marie Renee Katz, two friends and researchers who are obsessed with childhood--be it the universality of childhood, the trope of the child, or their own memories as former little ones. The duo outlines their hopes, dreams, fears, and plans for the future... almost as if this project were a child of their own. -- New episodes out on Wednesdays Find us on Twitter (//twitter.com/sameheremanpod?s=21) Email us at sameheremanpod@gmail.com
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