Same Old Jets?

About Same Old Jets?

Two long-time football fans argue their case on whether past is prologue for the present-day fortunes of one of the NFL’s most moribund franchises, the New York Jets. In each episode, a guest judge joins the hosts to make the call: will 2025 be the start of a brighter future at One Jets Drive, or will this season ultimately be another in a long line of failure?

Publisher

Same Old Jets

Category

sports

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

9 Aug 2025

Latest episode

4 Sept 2025

Latest episodes

14 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   4 Sept 2025

   Case No. 13 – The Trial of Woody, Brick, and Jack

   No judge would ever rule that an NFL owner be forced to sell his team because of poor on-field performance (sadly). Such is the saving grace for Ambassador Robert Wood Johnson IV and his teenage heirs, Brick and Jack, who reportedly have the ear of their old man regarding personnel hirings and firings as the team continues to stack losing seasons. New York sports has seen its recent share of fail sons leading the city’s most iconic franchises – Hal Steinbrenner and James Dolan are right there with the Johnson boys. Yet is it a fait accompli (a.k.a. Same Old Jets) that Woody’s scions will fail, based on what we know about how they scout? Our hosts debate the long-term fate of One Jets Drive under Brick and Jack attack in front of the Honorable Judge Jake Asman, ESPN Radio personality and host of The Jake Asman Show, who settles this family affair.

2. 

   1 Sept 2025

   Case No. 12 – The Trial of the Homegrown, Second Contract Studs

   Three cornerstone New York Jets – Jamien Sherwood, Sauce Gardner, and Garrett Wilson – have already been (Sherwood) or are set to be (Gardner and Wilson) rewarded during the 2025 offseason with an honor few modern Jets rarely see: a second contract to stay in the Meadowlands. This trio of former Jets GM Joe Douglas’ draftees has proven in their early careers to be worthy of such monumental raises with their play on the field… but are these expensive extensions wise when considering the team’s spotty track record in keeping their own? Mark Sanchez, Muhammad Wilkerson, and dare it be said... Quinnen Williams, coming off arguably the worst season of his career? All recent Same Old Jets? second contracts, two of which are flops, and one is in limbo. The Honorable Judge Dylan Tereman, writer for JetNation.com, assumes the bench to hear cases for and against the idea of new megadeals and ultimately determines if the Johnson family is making the correct move in opening its wallet to retain its homegrown talent.

3. 

   1 Sept 2025

   Case No. 11 – The Trial of AFC East Foes

   The New York Jets have not won the AFC East since 2002, tied for the second-longest existing drought in the NFL. In that 23-year timeframe, the Jets have not led or held a share of first place in the East at any point past Halloween. They’ve gone 47-85 against the Bills, Dolphins, and Patriots. In a league where parity reigns and only four teams occupy each division, Jet ineptitude has been particularly remarkable. Of the markers that embody the Same Old Jets? mantra and its toxicity, the team’s putrid performance against their hated rivals is most demonstrative. How can the Aaron Glenn Jets hope to break the cycle? Counselors Richard and Walz lock horns on the subject in front of the Honorable Judge Paul “Boy Green” Esden, Jr., host of Boy Green Daily, to determine if and when the Jets will cease being “AFC Least.”

4. 

   30 Aug 2025

   Case No. 10 – The Trial of Darren Mougey, and Roster Imports and Exports

   Darren Mougey was an undrafted free agent quarterback fresh out of San Diego State the last time his new team, the New York Jets, reached the postseason. As Jet fortunes sank for a decade and a half, the now-40-year-old Mougey hung up his cleats and steadily rose through the ranks in the Denver Broncos organization, from a scouting intern to the role of assistant GM beginning in 2022. At just 40 years of age, Mougey will be tasked to deliver something the Jets franchise hasn’t touched since man landed on the moon: a Super Bowl victory. Gone are high-profile names like Aaron Rodgers, Davante Adams, and D.J. Reed, replaced with an influx of players full of potential but with limited success in the league – none more identifiable than new QB1, Justin Fields. By Mougey’s and fellow first-year arrival Aaron Glenn’s design, 2025 Jets will be among the youngest rosters in the NFL. On paper, they’re seemingly less likely to win games. Growing pains are surely forthcoming. Yet is it really Same Old Jets? with Darren Mougey at the top? The Honorable Judge duo of Dayne-O and Daniel Murphy, hosts of the DayngerZone, pound their gavels and make the call.

5. 

   27 Aug 2025

   Case No. 9 – The Trial of Breece Hall

   Part of a dream draft class in 2022, second-round selection Breece Hall exploded onto the stage for Gang Green and became the team’s top offensive threat within weeks. A midseason ACL tear derailed a Rookie of the Year-winning campaign, and in the wake of that injury, Hall has both tantalized and frustrated fans who placed big bets on his future production. Like for so many of the heralded young Jets core, 2024 was a lost season for Hall; a career high in fumbles, a career low in yards per carry, and the emergence of competition in fellow running backs Braelon Allen and Isaiah Davis. Trade rumors swirled around Hall during April’s NFL Draft, and whispers continue. A committee approach seems likely, based on the word of new head coach Aaron Glenn. Will Hall be allowed once more to become the team’s alpha male on offense, or is he playing out the string on the final year of his rookie contract? Counselors Richard and Walz argue their points while the Honorable Judge Matt DiPaoli, long-suffering Jets fan and author of the popular Killstanbul and Holliday fiction novels, renders his verdict.

6. 

   27 Aug 2025

   Case No. 8 – The Trial of Aaron Rodgers’ Jets Woes and Future Outlook

   Insanity is: Being a New York Jets fan, and Doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting different results Twice in the last 17 years, the Jets have rolled the dice in acquiring aging quarterbacks from the Green Bay Packers. In New York, Brett Favre showed his dick, while Aaron Rodgers often acted like one. In his third act, Favre was able to jump to Minnesota and lead a team to within one victory of the Super Bowl. Now that he’s landed in Pittsburgh, can similar success be found by Rodgers? And what is it about Hall of Fame quarterbacks coming to this market and suffering brutal injuries and underwhelming seasons? Same Old Jets?, or too small a sample size? Counselors Richard and Walz litigate the near past, present, and future of Aaron Rodgers while the Honorable Judge Garrett, longtime Steelers fan and conflicted Rodgers hater, rules on the matter. Let us know your thoughts by email jetsjury@gmail.com

7. 

   21 Aug 2025

   Case No. 7 – The Trial of Quinnen Williams

   Aside from long snapper Thomas Hennessy, defensive tackle Quinnen Williams is the longest tenured New York Jet remaining as the new front office and coaching staff arrive at One Jets Drive. Entering the prime of his career at age 27, Williams was a Pro Bowler in 2024 by reputation more than performance: he had half as many sacks as his All-Pro season in 2022, and the Jets could hardly stop the run even with the former All-American lined up over center. Pro Football Focus ranked Williams as the 28th-best interior defender last season after being in the Top 5 in both 2022 and 2023. To sum up, the highest-paid player on the team just turned in his worst season since his rookie campaign. Counselors Richard and Walz plead their respective cases in front of the Honorable Judge Travis Reed, trombone extraordinaire and American football savant, to determine if the decline of Quinnen Williams right after earning a whopper contract is Same Old Jets? or just a fluke.

8. 

   18 Aug 2025

   Case No. 6 – The Trial of Steve Wilks

   New Head Coach Aaron Glenn made perhaps his most high-profile coaching hire in bringing in veteran Defensive Coordinator Steve Wilks to run the schemes Glenn implemented in Detroit with growing success. Wilks is well-liked and well-traveled, having been the rare NFL head coach sacked after just one season in Arizona. In the six years since his surprising dismissal from the desert, he has assisted for the Cleveland Browns, Carolina Panthers, and was the DC for the NFC champion San Francisco 49ers just two seasons ago. While Robert Saleh failed to lead New York into becoming a winner, a bright spot of his and former interim HC Jeff Ulbrich’s tenure was building a strong defensive unit at all three levels. What does Wilks do to improve what’s arguably the strength of the squad – and is he driving, or more of a passenger on the Aaron Glenn bus to East Rutherford? Counselors Richard and Walz will examine the resume of Steve Wilks and whether he can guide a young group filled with explosive talent and recent All-Pros to consistent contention. The Honorable Judge CJ Pukala, host of The 4 Line, assesses the case for and against the new leader of the Jets' “D.”

9. 

   15 Aug 2025

   Case No. 5 – The Trial of MetLife Stadium

   Coming off an exciting and unexpected run to the AFC Championship game, the New York Jets moved from raucous Giants Stadium to brand-new MetLife Stadium in 2010. In true partnership with the New York Giants, $1.6 billion and enough concrete to cover 2.1 million square feet were poured into a new home: one that would have all the great modern amenities of the new wave of American sports stadiums, for two of the NFL’s more talented teams. Fifteen years have passed since the opening of the cavernous, no-frills confines of MetLife, and both the Jets and Giants have enjoyed zero home-field advantage: the Jets themselves are 10 games under .500, with a record of 57-67 and zero home playoff games. Season ticket holders moving across the Meadowlands parking lot were treated to new and expensive PSLs, and ticket prices that increased every year. Ultimately, they opted for the couch in a new age of massive flatscreen TVs and a booming resale ticket market – one that visiting fans of more successful franchises had no problem capitalizing on. These days, the crowd for every Jet home game is up for grabs, and the road team usually wins. Can MetLife Stadium be reclaimed by Jets faithful, or are there too many swirling headwinds in the arena to reverse the tide and its Same Old Jets? It’s Ladies’ Night at SOJ, and the Honorable Judges Victoria Shaw and Halli Walz – longtime fans and suffering spouses - will decide the case.

10. 

    12 Aug 2025

    Case No. 4 – The Trial of Tanner Engstrand, Newly-Minted NFL Playcaller

    Former QB, cerebral, lives in the film room – all describe the next offensive coordinator of the New York Jets, Tanner Engstrand. The 42-year-old enters to fix a unit that fizzled under former OC Nathaniel Hackett and with a Hall of Fame quarterback in Aaron Rodgers leading the way. The Jets finished a season even in the Top-20 in scoring offense since 2015. In the nine seasons since, they’ve ranked in the NFL’s bottom-five six times. Still, Engstrand is “100% confident” he’s the man for the job. Is he? Our courtroom duo and the Honorable Judge CJ Pukala, Host of The 4 Line, try to understand if a passing game coordinator working under the premier offensive mind in the current NFL, Ben Johnson, really was a main force in the success of Detroit’s high-octane attack of the last several years. If so valuable, why did the Lions promote a different internal hire to OC? Why didn’t Johnson recruit Engstrand to Chicago? And most of all, why are the Jets once more putting their faith in a coach who has yet to call a play in an NFL game? Is it Same Old Jets?, or did new Jets Head Coach Aaron Glenn and General Manager Darren Mougey uncover a gem?

11. 

    9 Aug 2025

    Case No. 3 – The Trial of Joe Namath’s Sold Soul

    January 12, 1969. The AFL Champion New York Jets, behind future Hall of Fame quarterback Joe Namath, win Super Bowl III despite being 18-point underdogs to the NFL’s Baltimore Colts. Three days earlier, Broadway Joe raised eyebrows at the Miami Touchdown Club when he proclaimed, “We’re gonna win the game, I guarantee it.” What didn’t the handicappers know? What did Namath know? And after the most legendary bet ever made on the New York Jets proved to be a winner, how has it come to be that the franchise has been the NFL’s preeminent star-crossed loser ever since? Do you believe in lifelong curses? One of our counselors does. The Honorable Judge Dom DeAngelo, host of the 1 Of A Kind With RVD podcast and longtime Jets fanatic, rules on whether 82-year-old Joe Namath’s continued existence ensures failure for the Jets.

12. 

    9 Aug 2025

    Case No. 2 – The Trial of Aaron Glenn

    In January, Aaron Glenn became only the second New York Jets player – and first since Walt Michaels – to also be hired as head coach. The three-time Pro Bowl cornerback comes home to mould a talented yet underachieving Jets squad who had sky-high hopes for 2024, only to endure an all-time Same Old Jets? season that cleaned out the front office and coaching staff by year’s end. Glenn learned at the hand of Bill Parcells and has stewarded the Jets thus far in a no-nonsense way that would make “The Big Tuna” smile. Is Glenn the coach that takes New York back to the playoffs, or dare it be said – the Super Bowl? Or, like Parcells and every one of the 20 coaches since Weeb Ewbank, will he manage to fizzle out and join the graveyard of tormented successors? Counselors Richard and Walz argue the case in front of the Honorable Judges Snowball and Johnny Boy, hosts of JetsWorldWide.

13. 

    9 Aug 2025

    Case No. 1 - The Trial of Justin Fields

    A brand-new front office and coaching regime have arrived at One Jets Drive, and their very first major free agent signing was quarterback Justin Fields. A tremendous athlete and five-star college recruit, the 26-year-old Fields has yet to put down firm roots in his five-year NFL tenure. Is Fields the uncovered successor to Joe Namath that fans have clamored for 50 years and counting, or is it Same Old Jets? at the quarterback position yet again? Counselors Richard and Walz argue the case in front of the Honorable Judge Garrett, a longtime friend of the show and a diehard Pittsburgh Steelers fan. Judge Garrett paid keen attention to Fields’ play in 2024 and provided his verdict on the eve of the 2025 football season.

14. 

    9 Aug 2025

    Prologue

    On the eve of the 2025 New York Jets season, two lifelong pals prepare to enter an imaginary courtroom to litigate the fate of their favorite football team. Join Kyle Richard and Nicholas Walz as they describe the origins of their Jet fandom, why they're taking their 13 cases in front of an all-star judging circuit, and everything else listeners can expect from the Same Old Jets? podcast.

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