Saturdata is the community-driven podcast humanizing the data world for the next generation of analysts, scientists, and engineers. Join hosts Shifra Williams and Sam LaFell every weekend as they break down both the career journey and the technical foundations that matter.
From navigating interviews to mastering SQL, Python, terminal basics, and understanding AI safety, Saturdata covers the full stack of becoming a successful data professional.
AI regulation isn't just a tech problem, it's a people problem
It's not all firewalls and technical fixes.
Here's why shaping the future of AI comes down to soft skills, cultural awareness, and actually showing up for the conversation.
Call your rep, use your voice, because any regulation is better than none 🗣️
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4 Apr 2026
We're making up AI as we go | Saturdata with Joey Yudelson
What happens when you train an evil AI and it just lies really confidently? Joey Yudelson (https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-yudelson/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-yudelson/)), AI safety researcher at Redwood Research, joins Sam and Shifra to break down why 300 people standing between us and a catastrophic AI future might not be enough, and what data folks can actually do about it.
We talk about:
- Taxonomies of AI risk (silly vs. not silly, yes this is a real framework)
- Why the evil AI wrote 30 paragraphs insisting its buggy code was perfect
- Global AI regulation and who's actually doing a good job (hint: it's the EU)
- How to use Claude agents like a multiplayer cheat code
- Why you personally could make a dent in AI safety research
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Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
0:57 - Joey's origin story: from high school Yudkowsky reader to full-time AI safety researcher
3:42 - A guided tour of the AI safety landscape
6:14 - Where Joey fits in the puzzle: model organisms and misalignment research
7:28 - The evil AI that wrote 30 paragraphs insisting its buggy code was perfect
10:55 - Deep in the lab vs. everyday AI user: how different are they really?
13:42 - The knowledge lag: why comedians are still calling AI "smart autocomplete"
17:24 - Taxonomies of risk: silly vs. not silly (yes, water use is on the table)
22:02 - Being a responsible AI user: what data folks can actually do
28:32 - How LLMs actually work, explained with a very talented dog named Jeeves
33:11 - Joey's lifelong vendetta against SQL (and how he gets away with it)
36:59 - Three rules for getting real value out of AI agents without losing your mind
42:48 - Why you personally could make a dent in AI safety (and the case for Talmudic AI research)
45:20 - Takeaways and outro
3 Apr 2026
Stop coding, start directing: the AI shift you can't ignore
Claude Opus is probably a better coder than you, and Joey isn't sugarcoating it. Instead of writing code line by line, the real move could be writing design docs and letting a fleet of AI agents do the heavy lifting.
The biggest mistake is assuming AI will always look the way it does right now
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