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Scratch That: Parenting & ReParenting Off Script

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Scratch That is a weekly podcast with queer illustrator <a href="https://www.instagram.com/caitlinhasfeels/" rel="nofollow">Caitlin Metz</a> and disabled storyteller <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sitting_pretty/" rel="nofollow">Rebekah Taussig</a>, two friends trying to figure out how to be parents and people at the same time. Caitlin and Rebekah delve into heartfelt, honest conversations with caregivers who are going off script, starting from scratch, and building alternate paths. Join our community on Patreon!

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October 27, 2025

💌 Signing Off With Love

Hi, friends! Happy Monday💛As Caitlin prepares to to welcome their new little human into the world, we are sending you a little signing off episode with a found poem that emerged from all of the conversations we've gathered since we kicked this thing off last year.Thank you for being along for the ride!A Scratch That Poem*Note: Every line from this poem is linked to the Scratch That episode from which it originally sprouted. <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/letters-from-love-a-la-elizabeth-gilbert/id1768770598?i=1000708975964" rel="nofollow">Hello, little butterbean,</a> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/letters-from-love-a-la-elizabeth-gilbert/id1768770598?i=1000708975964" rel="nofollow">Sweet silly goose.</a> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/letters-from-love-a-la-elizabeth-gilbert/id1768770598?i=1000708975964" rel="nofollow">little anxious heart.</a> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dear-listener/id1768770598?i=1000670390397" rel="nofollow">Dear listener,</a> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/reparenting-money-discomfort-and-social-media-exits/id1768770598?i=1000721491548" rel="nofollow">the freaks,</a> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/reparenting-money-discomfort-and-social-media-exits/id1768770598?i=1000721491548" rel="nofollow">other weirdos</a> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/one-year-of-scratch-that/id1768770598?i=1000726883821" rel="nofollow">my sister Laura</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/letters-from-love-a-la-elizabeth-gilbert/id1768770598?i=1000708975964" rel="nofollow">Come sit with me. </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dear-listener/id1768770598?i=1000670390397" rel="nofollow">we can't believe you're here </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dear-listener/id1768770598?i=1000670390397" rel="nofollow">your presence feels like a miraculous little sparkle lighting up the dark sky.</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-do-we-talk-about-our-internalized-ableism/id1768770598?i=1000675619824" rel="nofollow">What I hear us talking about is</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dear-listener/id1768770598?i=1000670390397" rel="nofollow">becoming was a pretty disorienting, lonely experience.</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/reparenting-money-discomfort-and-social-media-exits/id1768770598?i=1000721491548" rel="nofollow">Like we were gonna be lawyers and doctors and like be wearing suits or something. </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-do-we-navigate-the-comparison-game/id1768770598?i=1000724368415" rel="nofollow">I have literally gashed the control panel of the passenger side door out with my wheelchair as I transferred in and out of this car for the last 15 years. And if anybody sits in the passenger seat, it does look like I'm trying to kidnap them</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/reparenting-money-discomfort-and-social-media-exits/id1768770598?i=1000721491548" rel="nofollow">oh, this is, this is very different than I thought what almost 40 was gonna look like. </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/what-is-a-real-mom/id1768770598?i=1000670390310" rel="nofollow">I doubt myself all the time</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/what-is-a-real-mom/id1768770598?i=1000670390310" rel="nofollow">I shrunk from the eye of the storm </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/showing-up-when-we-dont-know-the-outcome-with/id1768770598?i=1000725500600" rel="nofollow">I don't know what the hell I'm doing.</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/showing-up-when-we-dont-know-the-outcome-with/id1768770598?i=1000725500600" rel="nofollow">oh, dear Lord. </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-to-human-with-lisa-olivera/id1768770598?i=1000680542914" rel="nofollow">I am so quick to feel like, oh, you are ruining this. And if you could just get it right </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-do-we-navigate-the-comparison-game/id1768770598?i=1000724368415" rel="nofollow">We were at the pool. I didn't bring a towel. I didn't bring a towel to the pool. Can we use your towels? Oh, my God. Like, what. What is that? </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-do-we-navigate-the-comparison-game/id1768770598?i=1000724368415" rel="nofollow">the moment when you show up and you feel like the child in a room full of adults.</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-do-we-talk-about-our-internalized-ableism/id1768770598?i=1000675619824" rel="nofollow">this little duck that looks really peaceful on top of the water, but underneath, I'm just paddling, like, furiously. </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dear-listener/id1768770598?i=1000670390397" rel="nofollow">and I couldn't let anyone know it</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-do-we-talk-about-our-internalized-ableism/id1768770598?i=1000675619824" rel="nofollow">This is the dirty secret.</a> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-do-we-talk-about-our-internalized-ableism/id1768770598?i=1000675619824" rel="nofollow">And nobody can know that, actually, I'm like, I shouldn't be doing this, and I need to keep pretending like I can.</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/what-is-a-real-mom/id1768770598?i=1000670390310" rel="nofollow">the failure of not matching </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/getting-off-the-conveyor-belt-of-production/id1768770598?i=1000693008631" rel="nofollow">when we immediately think like, oh, I should know</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/what-is-a-real-mom/id1768770598?i=1000670390310" rel="nofollow">what the fuck is that?</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/what-is-a-real-mom/id1768770598?i=1000670390310" rel="nofollow">It was like grief.</a> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/what-is-a-real-mom/id1768770598?i=1000670390310" rel="nofollow">It was shame.</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/getting-off-the-conveyor-belt-of-production/id1768770598?i=1000693008631" rel="nofollow">it is feeling like a lot of doing and grasping and, like, white knuckling. </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dear-listener/id1768770598?i=1000670390397" rel="nofollow">I can never stop working relentlessly and fearfully to get it right, get it right, get it right.</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dear-listener/id1768770598?i=1000670390397" rel="nofollow">nose to the grindstone</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dear-listener/id1768770598?i=1000670390397" rel="nofollow">I don't think I'm capable of feeling easy breezy </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-do-we-talk-about-our-internalized-ableism/id1768770598?i=1000675619824" rel="nofollow">It feels all tangled and kind of ugly.</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/getting-off-the-conveyor-belt-of-production/id1768770598?i=1000693008631" rel="nofollow">Tell me if I'm wrong.</a> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dear-listener/id1768770598?i=1000670390397" rel="nofollow">Did others feel this way?</a> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-do-we-talk-about-our-internalized-ableism/id1768770598?i=1000675619824" rel="nofollow">As I'm understanding it right now in the very middle of it</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-do-we-talk-about-our-internalized-ableism/id1768770598?i=1000675619824" rel="nofollow">Yep.</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/getting-off-the-conveyor-belt-of-production/id1768770598?i=1000693008631" rel="nofollow">I'm raising my hand here, </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dear-listener/id1768770598?i=1000670390397" rel="nofollow">Was everyone just pretending to be okay, or was I broken?</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/getting-off-the-conveyor-belt-of-production/id1768770598?i=1000693008631" rel="nofollow">oh, no. No. No. No.</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/what-does-disability-teach-us-about-building-community/id1768770598?i=1000671275005" rel="nofollow">I just don't buy it. </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-to-human-with-lisa-olivera/id1768770598?i=1000680542914" rel="nofollow">There was also this</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-to-human-with-lisa-olivera/id1768770598?i=1000680542914" rel="nofollow">There was a way that you were trying to help yourself survive even in that fumbling</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/an-ode-to-therapy-internal-family-systems-with-sacha-mardou/id1768770598?i=1000682855477" rel="nofollow">I'm holding myself together with harshness and rigidity and </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/reparenting-money-discomfort-and-social-media-exits/id1768770598?i=1000721491548" rel="nofollow">why I oughta.</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/an-ode-to-therapy-internal-family-systems-with-sacha-mardou/id1768770598?i=1000682855477" rel="nofollow">oh, </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/letters-from-love-a-la-elizabeth-gilbert/id1768770598?i=1000708975964" rel="nofollow">the speed and rush and flurry and chaos and check, check, check.</a> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/returning-to-our-bodies-with-barry-lee/id1768770598?i=1000730392261" rel="nofollow">Because so many times it felt like my body was not mine. </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/returning-to-our-bodies-with-barry-lee/id1768770598?i=1000730392261" rel="nofollow">oh, like I'm actually in much more pain than I'm letting myself admit. </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-to-human-with-lisa-olivera/id1768770598?i=1000680542914" rel="nofollow">and and how do we, like, not keep our bodies rigid </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dear-2024-2025/id1768770598?i=1000682315502" rel="nofollow">What if your most important job was to notice, to witness breath, tears, goosebumps, heartbeats? Look! </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/what-is-a-real-mom/id1768770598?i=1000670390310" rel="nofollow">just, like, stop to look at a trail of ants in a sidewalk crack. </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dear-2024-2025/id1768770598?i=1000682315502" rel="nofollow">Listen to the gasp from the back seat at the sight of a sunrise. Mama, take a picture. </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-to-human-with-lisa-olivera/id1768770598?i=1000680542914" rel="nofollow">oh, there's my breath.</a> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-to-human-with-lisa-olivera/id1768770598?i=1000680542914" rel="nofollow">Oh, there I am in there. </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/flipping-the-script-on-disability-with-lucy/id1768770598?i=1000700579122" rel="nofollow">You feel it, right?</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/showing-up-when-we-dont-know-the-outcome-with/id1768770598?i=1000725500600" rel="nofollow">Yes, dear Lord</a> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/flipping-the-script-on-disability-with-lucy/id1768770598?i=1000700579122" rel="nofollow">I have goosebumps up to my cheeks</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/getting-off-the-conveyor-belt-of-production/id1768770598?i=1000693008631" rel="nofollow">Mhmm. I mean, you know it in your body probably.</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/letters-from-love-a-la-elizabeth-gilbert/id1768770598?i=1000708975964" rel="nofollow">One breath at a time. </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/trading-the-status-quo-for-the-risk-of/id1768770598?i=1000713075303" rel="nofollow">watch me</a> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/letters-from-love-a-la-elizabeth-gilbert/id1768770598?i=1000708975964" rel="nofollow">Breathe in and out.</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dear-listener/id1768770598?i=1000670390397" rel="nofollow">a lot of us out here don't match the pictures we've been given</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/flipping-the-script-on-disability-with-lucy/id1768770598?i=1000700579122" rel="nofollow">I don't see through your eyes, you don't see through my eyes. We're all seeing things differently. </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dear-listener/id1768770598?i=1000670390397" rel="nofollow">We are learning </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-hilarious-heartbreaking-with-shane-hannah-burcaw/id1768770598?i=1000709889205" rel="nofollow">we are recalibrating</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/getting-off-the-conveyor-belt-of-production/id1768770598?i=1000693008631" rel="nofollow">in flux </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/getting-off-the-conveyor-belt-of-production/id1768770598?i=1000693008631" rel="nofollow">reorienting, and it is dizzying.</a> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/getting-off-the-conveyor-belt-of-production/id1768770598?i=1000693008631" rel="nofollow">The hints come in little bread crumbs, and I think you can trust it.</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/trading-the-status-quo-for-the-risk-of/id1768770598?i=1000713075303" rel="nofollow">horses don't have an ability to lie to humans</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/trading-the-status-quo-for-the-risk-of/id1768770598?i=1000713075303" rel="nofollow">grab the reins and trust that gut feeling</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/showing-up-when-we-dont-know-the-outcome-with/id1768770598?i=1000725500600" rel="nofollow">That is the thing we have control over, trying to show up, trying to show up again. We don't have control over the outcome.</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/letters-from-love-a-la-elizabeth-gilbert/id1768770598?i=1000708975964" rel="nofollow">It is all going to happen. </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/showing-up-when-we-dont-know-the-outcome-with/id1768770598?i=1000725500600" rel="nofollow">One day at a time, baby.</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-do-we-navigate-the-comparison-game/id1768770598?i=1000724368415" rel="nofollow">it will be glorious and unbearable</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-do-we-navigate-the-comparison-game/id1768770598?i=1000724368415" rel="nofollow">And yes,</a> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-hilarious-heartbreaking-with-shane-hannah-burcaw/id1768770598?i=1000709889205" rel="nofollow">it was funny because we made it so.</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-do-we-teach-our-kids-to-be-in-community-with-all/id1768770598?i=1000678888820" rel="nofollow">Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/getting-off-the-conveyor-belt-of-production/id1768770598?i=1000693008631" rel="nofollow">we can use goals as playgrounds. </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/not-being-afraid-to-look-at-it-all-with-tyler-feder/id1768770598?i=1000731580341" rel="nofollow">The timelines that are presented to us are so narrow. And that is not what life is like. It's just not. </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/not-being-afraid-to-look-at-it-all-with-tyler-feder/id1768770598?i=1000731580341" rel="nofollow">Julia Child didn't start cooking until she was 45 or whatever.</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/getting-off-the-conveyor-belt-of-production/id1768770598?i=1000693008631" rel="nofollow">Yes. Yes. Oh my gosh. Now I'm going yes. </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/getting-off-the-conveyor-belt-of-production/id1768770598?i=1000693008631" rel="nofollow">like, paying attention to what is alive in you. </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/getting-off-the-conveyor-belt-of-production/id1768770598?i=1000693008631" rel="nofollow">You can just shift the question.</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/returning-to-our-bodies-with-barry-lee/id1768770598?i=1000730392261" rel="nofollow">What are the things you're moving towards versus just what you're going against?</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/returning-to-our-bodies-with-barry-lee/id1768770598?i=1000730392261" rel="nofollow">how can you rearrange what's in the box? </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/getting-off-the-conveyor-belt-of-production/id1768770598?i=1000693008631" rel="nofollow">what is it that you're resisting in yourself? </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/getting-off-the-conveyor-belt-of-production/id1768770598?i=1000693008631" rel="nofollow">what are we to do but imagine better futures?</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/reparenting-money-discomfort-and-social-media-exits/id1768770598?i=1000721491548" rel="nofollow">this off script, kind of like, scrappy, build it yourself way, I'm like, oh, yeah, </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/getting-off-the-conveyor-belt-of-production/id1768770598?i=1000693008631" rel="nofollow">Like, we can just start asking different questions</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/reparenting-money-discomfort-and-social-media-exits/id1768770598?i=1000721491548" rel="nofollow">That's freaking sick, bro.</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/reparenting-money-discomfort-and-social-media-exits/id1768770598?i=1000721491548" rel="nofollow">That's freaking metal.</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/getting-off-the-conveyor-belt-of-production/id1768770598?i=1000693008631" rel="nofollow">I think a new answer is emerging in me and I don't know what it is yet. </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/an-ode-to-therapy-internal-family-systems-with-sacha-mardou/id1768770598?i=1000682855477" rel="nofollow">but I do know that my body responded </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-to-human-with-lisa-olivera/id1768770598?i=1000680542914" rel="nofollow">I'm paying attention to how my body feels right now.</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/flipping-the-script-on-disability-with-lucy/id1768770598?i=1000700579122" rel="nofollow">my heart has not stopped pounding</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-to-human-with-lisa-olivera/id1768770598?i=1000680542914" rel="nofollow">so many tears coming up </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-to-human-with-lisa-olivera/id1768770598?i=1000680542914" rel="nofollow">I feel like this tingling of excitement</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/flipping-the-script-on-disability-with-lucy/id1768770598?i=1000700579122" rel="nofollow">my face is already hurting from all the smiling</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-do-we-teach-our-kids-to-be-in-community-with-all/id1768770598?i=1000678888820" rel="nofollow">And, also </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/an-ode-to-therapy-internal-family-systems-with-sacha-mardou/id1768770598?i=1000682855477" rel="nofollow">right now, I'm just like a hot jellyfish mess. You know? </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-do-we-teach-our-kids-to-be-in-community-with-all/id1768770598?i=1000678888820" rel="nofollow">It's, like, so uncomfortable and hard to let things be messy</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/flipping-the-script-on-disability-with-lucy/id1768770598?i=1000700579122" rel="nofollow">And I think it has been messier than I expected, but</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/an-ode-to-therapy-internal-family-systems-with-sacha-mardou/id1768770598?i=1000682855477" rel="nofollow">But that messy middle was so important. </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-do-we-navigate-the-comparison-game/id1768770598?i=1000724368415" rel="nofollow">grappling with the real limitations of my body. </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/flipping-the-script-on-disability-with-lucy/id1768770598?i=1000700579122" rel="nofollow">Wouldn't it be lovely, if you could grow wings and fly? </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/flipping-the-script-on-disability-with-lucy/id1768770598?i=1000700579122" rel="nofollow">Of course there's grief. There's loss. </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/flipping-the-script-on-disability-with-lucy/id1768770598?i=1000700579122" rel="nofollow">but two things can be true at the same time. </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/returning-to-our-bodies-with-barry-lee/id1768770598?i=1000730392261" rel="nofollow">The pain and the beauty, they're usually, like, intertwined and pushed right up next to each other.</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dear-2024-2025/id1768770598?i=1000682315502" rel="nofollow">Notice the strength and the toll. There is so much pain and fear and loss bleeding across this planet. Notice the question, how are we still breathing? </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dear-2024-2025/id1768770598?i=1000682315502" rel="nofollow">Notice the blooms of survival.</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/getting-off-the-conveyor-belt-of-production/id1768770598?i=1000693008631" rel="nofollow">It is what happens in between you and the person across from you and in that space, the divine comes in. However you think of the divine</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/what-does-disability-teach-us-about-building-community/id1768770598?i=1000671275005" rel="nofollow">Like, this is beautiful and complicated. This is the juicy part. This is the rough part.</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dear-2024-2025/id1768770598?i=1000682315502" rel="nofollow">you are a speck of spectacular dust here for one quick gasp of holy shit, I'm here.</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-to-human-with-lisa-olivera/id1768770598?i=1000680542914" rel="nofollow">oh, yeah. It's probably supposed to be strange because it's inherently a weird thing</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-to-human-with-lisa-olivera/id1768770598?i=1000680542914" rel="nofollow">to change and evolve and grow</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dear-2024-2025/id1768770598?i=1000682315502" rel="nofollow">you will always be you, you will never stop changing. </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-to-human-with-lisa-olivera/id1768770598?i=1000680542914" rel="nofollow">It is so strange to put a part of yourself into the world </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/getting-off-the-conveyor-belt-of-production/id1768770598?i=1000693008631" rel="nofollow">This little pocket of conversation that we're having</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-to-human-with-lisa-olivera/id1768770598?i=1000680542914" rel="nofollow">this time capsule.</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-to-human-with-lisa-olivera/id1768770598?i=1000680542914" rel="nofollow">this one peak into one moment of time. </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-to-human-with-lisa-olivera/id1768770598?i=1000680542914" rel="nofollow">Holy shit</a> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-do-we-teach-our-kids-to-be-in-community-with-all/id1768770598?i=1000678888820" rel="nofollow">we just circled so many different things.</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-do-we-teach-our-kids-to-be-in-community-with-all/id1768770598?i=1000678888820" rel="nofollow">And did we land at exactly the place that we started? Maybe.</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dear-listener/id1768770598?i=1000670390397" rel="nofollow">So thank you for being here.</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-to-human-with-lisa-olivera/id1768770598?i=1000680542914" rel="nofollow">and thank you. Thank you for this.</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/an-ode-to-therapy-internal-family-systems-with-sacha-mardou/id1768770598?i=1000682855477" rel="nofollow">thank you for giving me this space</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-to-human-with-lisa-olivera/id1768770598?i=1000680542914" rel="nofollow">thank you for staying in the exploration</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/getting-off-the-conveyor-belt-of-production/id1768770598?i=1000693008631" rel="nofollow">Thank you for digging in and winding through this path with us. </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/an-ode-to-therapy-internal-family-systems-with-sacha-mardou/id1768770598?i=1000682855477" rel="nofollow">I have so many more questions</a>Mentioned In This Episode:<a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6Uw4GlamUfPw1IOWHvYgpy" rel="nofollow">Our collaborative Scratch That Spotify playlist "Songs That Have Held Us"</a>As Always:Check out Caitlin and Rebekah's<a href="https://bookshop.org/shop/scratchthat" rel="nofollow"> Book Shop</a>! Here you can find every book mentioned in our episodes, as well as a few additional faves.Use <a href="https://my.playpokpok.com/checkout?promocode=25SCRATCHTHAT" rel="nofollow">this link </a>to get a 25% discount on a PokPok subcription! And if you haven't listened yet, check out <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/scratch-that-parenting-reparenting-off-script/id1768770598" rel="nofollow">our interview with PokPok creators</a>, Esther and Melissa.We would love to hear from you! Are there moments from the last year of episodes that you would add to a Scratch That poem?🍎 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/scratch-that-parenting-reparenting-off-script/id1768770598" rel="nofollow">Apple</a>🟢 <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/1Wbz3KgFzjN9F0ngY20wmz?si=2b4b5ce8b120423a" rel="nofollow">Spotify</a>Find Rebekah on <a href="https://rebekahtaussig.substack.com/" rel="nofollow">Substack</a> & Caitlin on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/caitlinhasfeels/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> ✨

October 20, 2025

🎙️ Blessed Be the Body with Tatum Tricarico

<a href="https://www.instagram.com/blind_person_in_area/?hl=en" rel="nofollow">Tatum Tricarico</a> embodies a set of identities we don't always see together – she is a proud Disabled person, a Queer woman of faith, and a recent graduate from divinity school on her way to becoming a pastor. Tatum knows, first-hand, a lot of the wounds disabled and queer people have felt inside religious communities, and she's here to offer all of us – the ones on the outside and inside – new scripts for understanding the divine.Check out Tatum's forthcoming book, <a href="https://heraldpress.com/9781513815459/blessed-is-the-body/" rel="nofollow">Blessed Is the Body</a>, a reflection on disability justice, the holiness of inclusion and acceptance, disabled leadership, the finitude of our bodies, and allowing space for lament and acceptance. Whether you grew up hearing your body is sinful or haven't read a page of the Bible, this episode offers us a tender reframe on how we could think about our bodies and what needs (or doesn't need) fixing.Tune In to Hear Us Talk About:⛪️ Tatum's early experiences with disability, queerness, and religion.🧳 What it feels like to Tatum to embody a (disabled, queer, religious) role full of tension and contradiction.🐧 Finding God in the "in between" spaces, like penguins.🍃 Why Tatum had to let go of who she thought God was.🏳️‍🌈 What Tatum thinks religious communities are missing out on when they exclude people.👩‍🦯‍➡️ The yuck history of churches fighting to be excluded from the Americans with Disabilities Act.💌 Tatum's decision to stay in the church, even as she continues to think creatively about God.Mentioned In Today's Episode:Find Tatum on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/blind_person_in_area/?hl=en" rel="nofollow">@blind_person_in_area</a>Pre-Order her book from <a href="https://heraldpress.com/9781513815459/blessed-is-the-body/" rel="nofollow">Herald Press </a>or <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Blessed-Body-Disability-Justice-Community/dp/1513815458/" rel="nofollow">Amazon</a>Tatum's addition to the <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6Uw4GlamUfPw1IOWHvYgpy" rel="nofollow">Scratch That Spotify playlist</a> of songs that have held us – <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/42JgROeFDz7u50qFRfv8iV" rel="nofollow">"Sight" by Sleeping At Last</a>Nancy Eiesland's book <a href="https://www.abingdonpress.com/product/9780687108015/" rel="nofollow">The Disabled God: Toward a Liberatory Theology of Disability</a>Amy Kenny 's book <a href="https://bakerpublishinggroup.com/products/9781587435454_my-body-is-not-a-prayer-request" rel="nofollow">My Body is Not a Prayer Request: Disability Justice in the Church</a>As Always:Check out Caitlin and Rebekah's<a href="https://bookshop.org/shop/scratchthat" rel="nofollow"> Book Shop</a>! Here you can find every book mentioned in our episodes, as well as a few additional faves.Use <a href="https://my.playpokpok.com/checkout?promocode=25SCRATCHTHAT" rel="nofollow">this link </a>to get a 25% discount on a PokPok subcription! And if you haven't listened yet, check out <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/scratch-that-parenting-reparenting-off-script/id1768770598" rel="nofollow">our interview with PokPok creators</a>, Esther and Melissa.We would love to hear from you! Do you relate to any of the experience Rebekah and Tatum shared in this episode? Have you revised any scripts around what is holy or divine?🍎 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/scratch-that-parenting-reparenting-off-script/id1768770598" rel="nofollow">Apple</a>🟢 <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/1Wbz3KgFzjN9F0ngY20wmz?si=2b4b5ce8b120423a" rel="nofollow">Spotify</a>Find Rebekah on <a href="https://rebekahtaussig.substack.com/" rel="nofollow">Substack</a> & Caitlin on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/caitlinhasfeels/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> ✨

October 13, 2025

🎙️ Not Being Afraid to Look at It All with Tyler Feder

If you've listened to this podcast for three minutes, you know that we are big-time, long-time fans of author/illustrator <a href="https://www.tylerfeder.com/" rel="nofollow">Tyler Feder</a> (<a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/bodies-are-cool-tyler-feder/d1ebd3f17e01f23a?aid=106946&ean=9780593112625&listref=picture-books-scratch-that-podcast&next=t" rel="nofollow">Bodies Are Cool</a>, <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/are-you-mad-at-me-cody-feder/728e371fbf634251?aid=106946&ean=9780593615669&listref=picture-books-scratch-that-podcast&next=t" rel="nofollow">Are You Mad At Me?</a>, and <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/dancing-at-the-pity-party-tyler-feder/5441d7fe727e73f3?aid=106946&ean=9780525553038&listref=rebekah-s-shelf&next=t" rel="nofollow">Dancing At the Pity Party: A Dead Mom Graphic Memoir</a>). Tyler has a unique ability of finding the simplest, sturdiest revision to break open the one-dimensional world in which we often live. Today, we talk with her about how she came to rewrite scripts around bodies and grief. (And! We get a sneak peek at a future script she might like to dismantle and rewrite.) We are still basking in the glow of this conversation✨Tune In to Hear Us Talk About:🫀 How Tyler ended up writing the picture book that all of us needed.💀 The weird similarities in the ways people respond to disability and death.🎭 How Tyler became the kind of person who can hold onto grief and laughter at the same time.😬 The weird things people said around Tyler after her mom died and a peek at alternate scripts.⏳ A cultural script Tyler would like to revise.🎀 The 3 questions Rebekah's kid really wanted to ask Tyler, and her answers.🕺 A dash of Myers Briggs/Enneagram chitter-chatter.Mentioned In Today's Episode:Tyler's books <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/bodies-are-cool-tyler-feder/d1ebd3f17e01f23a?aid=106946&ean=9780593112625&listref=picture-books-scratch-that-podcast&next=t" rel="nofollow">Bodies Are Cool</a>, <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/are-you-mad-at-me-cody-feder/728e371fbf634251?aid=106946&ean=9780593615669&listref=picture-books-scratch-that-podcast&next=t" rel="nofollow">Are You Mad At Me?</a>, and <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/dancing-at-the-pity-party-tyler-feder/5441d7fe727e73f3?aid=106946&ean=9780525553038&listref=rebekah-s-shelf&next=t" rel="nofollow">Dancing At the Pity Party: A Dead Mom Graphic Memoir</a>Tyler's addition to the <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6Uw4GlamUfPw1IOWHvYgpy" rel="nofollow">Scratch That Spotify playlist</a> of songs that have held us – <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6Uw4GlamUfPw1IOWHvYgpy" rel="nofollow">"Kind of Girl" </a>by MUNAAs Always:Check out Caitlin and Rebekah's<a href="https://bookshop.org/shop/scratchthat" rel="nofollow"> Book Shop</a>! Here you can find every book mentioned in our episodes, as well as a few additional faves.Use <a href="https://my.playpokpok.com/checkout?promocode=25SCRATCHTHAT" rel="nofollow">this link </a>to get a 25% discount on a PokPok subcription! And if you haven't listened yet, check out <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/scratch-that-parenting-reparenting-off-script/id1768770598" rel="nofollow">our interview with PokPok creators</a>, Esther and Melissa.We would love to hear from you! 🍎 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/scratch-that-parenting-reparenting-off-script/id1768770598" rel="nofollow">Apple</a>🟢 <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/1Wbz3KgFzjN9F0ngY20wmz?si=2b4b5ce8b120423a" rel="nofollow">Spotify</a>Find Rebekah on <a href="https://rebekahtaussig.substack.com/" rel="nofollow">Substack</a> & Caitlin on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/caitlinhasfeels/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a> ✨

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