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Second Verse

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by Becky Boyland

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🎙 Second Verse – Because it’s never too late to make music. Are you an indie artist or creative dreaming of a second chance at your music career? Second Verse is the podcast that celebrates independent musicians, singer-songwriters, and artists who got started—or started again—after a more traditional career. Join host Becky Boyland, a singer-songwriter and music branding expert, as she interviews indie artists who prove that success isn’t just for the young and major-label backed. Each episode dives into real-life stories of artists navigating their second verse in music—overcoming fears, finding their audience, and making their creative dreams a reality. 💡 What You’ll Get: ✅ Inspiring stories from independent musicians who took the leap ✅ Actionable tips for pursuing your music career at any stage ✅ Branding and marketing insights to grow your audience ✅ Motivation to finally take that next step toward your dream No matter where you are on your musical journey, Second Verse will help you feel seen, supported, and ready to take action. Subscribe now, leave a review, and visit secondversepod.com to submit your story, connect on social media, and start your own Second Verse. 🎶 Your dream is still waiting—let’s make music.

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July 14, 2026

Prince of Soul Jazz: Nick Stefanacci on Quitting, Quincy Jones, and Saying Yes

Nick Stefanacci on Saying Yes, Leaving Teaching, and Building Sweet Lion MusicHost Becky Boyland interviews saxophonist Nick Stefanacci on Second Verse about his one-word philosophy—“yes”—and how saying yes to gigs and opportunities shaped his career. Nick shares his origin story: growing up in a musical New Jersey family, choosing saxophone in fourth grade, early jazz performances, and mentorship from teacher J. Chuck Sastre, whose death led Nick to launch a memorial scholarship funded by a benefit concert that raised over $20,000. He discusses teaching music for 15 years, resigning mid-year in his 40s for mental health and to pursue music full-time, and reconnecting with faith during the transition. Nick explains his creative approach of continually changing sounds, starting to write his own music after being told he didn’t fit, founding Sweet Lion Music after labels rejected him, and details his album Right Here, Right Now, including a reimagined “Oye Como Va” featuring Santana vocalist Tony Lindsay.https://youtu.be/KZTPMlMLKtQConnect with Nick Stefanacci:<ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/nickstefanaccimusic/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/nickstefanaccimusic/</a></li><li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/musicofnickstefanacci" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/musicofnickstefanacci</a></li><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/52iQrk2ojVRjvyQ5CTyoYn?si=tNiCuV28SJOb6j5VZZvl5w" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/artist/52iQrk2ojVRjvyQ5CTyoYn?si=tNiCuV28SJOb6j5VZZvl5w</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@nickstefanaccimusic" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@nickstefanaccimusic</a></li><li><a href="https://www.nickstefanaccimusic.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.nickstefanaccimusic.com/</a></li></ul> Sponsors:<ul><li>Attitude Creativity: <a href="https://attitudecreativity.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://attitudecreativity.com</a></li><li>She Produces Music: <a href="https://www.sheproducesmusic.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.sheproducesmusic.com</a></li></ul> Featured Song:<ul><li>”Midnight Aﬀair” by Nick Stefanacci, written by Nick Stefanacci (used with permission).</li></ul> Timestamps:<ul><li>00:00 Teaser: Nick Stefanacci Interview</li><li>00:35 Introduction</li><li>01:44 Welcome and Origins</li><li>03:48 Spotlight and Mentors</li><li>06:16 Teaching Career Starts</li><li>06:56 Mentor Loss and Giving Back</li><li>10:15 Leaving Teaching for Music</li><li>16:08 SPONSOR: Attitude Creativity</li><li>16:41 SPONSOR: She Produces Music</li><li>17:16 New Full Time Chapter</li><li>18:41 How He Writes Music</li><li>24:56 Breaking Rules and Labels</li><li>31:01 Arts Pipeline Like Sports</li><li>34:39 Advice to Just Say Yes</li><li>38:09 New Album and Singles</li><li>43:03 Where to Follow and Closing</li><li>46:17 Coda</li><li>47:36 Featured Song: "Midnight Affair" by Nick Stefanacci</li></ul> Stream all the released music from Second Verse any time! Add the official Songs from the Second Verse Podcast playlist to your Spotify now! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5lPUAY9uBYVVg9fmy03Bj3?si=5211c2db80334285Or to your Tidal now!https://tidal.com/playlist/c84934ad-2723-4d1a-919e-2aebd4b4974dStarting your own podcast? Sign up with Captivate to host your show today! https://fas.st/t/ZHbLxEpe (affiliate link)

April 28, 2026

What If Your Sound Was Inside You the Whole Time? Michael Isaak Went to Egypt to Find Out

Michael Isaak on Arabesque Folk, Diaspora Identity, and The Carpet MakerHost Becky Boyland interviews Los Angeles–born Egyptian American musician Michael Isaak about his journey from church hymns, Arabic classics, and early FL Studio production to creating a new sound he calls “arabesque folk.” After making indie folk influenced by Phoebe Bridgers and Sufjan Stevens, a first trip to Egypt at 19 sparked deeper cultural immersion; he brought home an oud, later transferred to Columbia University, studied Arabic language and Arab music history and theory, and joined the Arab Music Ensemble. Michael shares how experimenting and jamming helped Arabic motifs emerge naturally instead of feeling forced, his critique of the “world music” framing, and his goal of building in-person community through intimate shows. They discuss his debut album The Carpet Maker (May 15) and lead single “Hold Your Keys” (March 6), reflecting on diaspora, displacement, and the hope of return.https://youtu.be/YiRyILUz2JcConnect with Michael Isaak:<ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/michaelisaakmusic" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/michaelisaakmusic</a></li><li><a href="https://tiktok.com/@michaelisaakmusic" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tiktok.com/@michaelisaakmusic</a></li><li><a href="https://youtube.com/@michaelisaakmusic" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://youtube.com/@michaelisaakmusic</a></li><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/559rQJZL0GYH9lVU6zi5ey?si=KXUULlsqT16kSTJggFiQ8A" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/artist/559rQJZL0GYH9lVU6zi5ey?si=KXUULlsqT16kSTJggFiQ8A</a></li><li><a href="https://music.apple.com/us/artist/michael-isaak/1644644907" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://music.apple.com/us/artist/michael-isaak/1644644907</a></li><li><a href="https://michaelisaak.us" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://michaelisaak.us</a></li></ul> Sponsors:<ul><li>Attitude Creativity: <a href="https://attitudecreativity.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://attitudecreativity.com</a></li><li>She Produces Music: <a href="https://www.sheproducesmusic.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.sheproducesmusic.com</a></li></ul> Featured Song:<ul><li>”Hold Your Keys” by Michael Isaak, written by Michael Isaak & Sohail Bagheri (used with permission). All rights reserved.</li></ul> Timestamps:<ul><li>0:00 Teaser: Michael Isaak Interview</li><li>00:38 Introduction</li><li>02:12 Meet Michael Isaak</li><li>03:26 Learning to Perform and Produce</li><li>06:05 Taking the Leap From College</li><li>07:38 Finding an Arab Folk Identity</li><li>13:29 Oud Origins and Obsession</li><li>16:40 Blending Arabic and Western Sounds</li><li>26:39 Beyond World Music Labels</li><li>30:51 SPONSOR: Attitude Creativity</li><li>31:24 SPONSOR: She Produces Music</li><li>31:59 The Carpet Maker Album Story</li><li>38:17 Marketing vs Meaning</li><li>40:46 Building Community Through Shows</li><li>43:57 Advice and Influences to Explore</li><li>47:17 Where to Find the Music</li><li>48:08 Release Dates and Farewell</li><li>48:51 Coda</li><li>51:16 Featured Song: "Hold Your Keys" by Michael Isaak, written by Michael Isaak & Sohail Bagheri</li></ul> Stream all the released music from Second Verse any time! Add the official Songs from the Second Verse Podcast playlist to your Spotify now! <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5lPUAY9uBYVVg9fmy03Bj3?si=5211c2db80334285" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5lPUAY9uBYVVg9fmy03Bj3?si=5211c2db80334285</a>Or to your Tidal now!<a href="https://tidal.com/playlist/c84934ad-2723-4d1a-919e-2aebd4b4974d" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tidal.com/playlist/c84934ad-2723-4d1a-919e-2aebd4b4974d</a>Starting your own podcast? Sign up with Captivate to host your show today! <a href="https://fas.st/t/ZHbLxEpe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://fas.st/t/ZHbLxEpe</a> (affiliate link)

March 31, 2026

She Played Piano on 9/11—From a Psychiatric Hospital in Manhattan: Prin's Many Verses

Prin’s Second Verse: From 9/11 Hospitalization to Wellness-Centered Music ProductionHost Becky Boyland interviews New Jersey-based music producer, author, and educator Prin, who began playing piano by ear at age three, worked as a paid musician by 15, and built a thriving NYC gigging and composing life while at Fordham. After graduating in 2001, untreated bipolar disorder and substance abuse led her into a free inpatient case-study program at the New York State Psychiatric Institute, where she was hospitalized on 9/11, prompting a renewed commitment to mental health. A back injury halted performing for years, shifting her into counseling, education, and writing. After leaving higher ed, she was hit by a car and suffered lasting left-hand nerve damage, later returning to gigs and releasing her first album in 2016. Subsequent car accidents, disc replacement surgery (2019), the pandemic, and her brother’s death after COVID led her into music production, sound healing, and an ambient grief project, “The Calm Principles.”https://youtu.be/OPJ9_mkKL1gConnect with Prin:<ul><li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/musicbyprin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/musicbyprin</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/musicbyprin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/musicbyprin</a></li><li><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@musicbyprin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.tiktok.com/@musicbyprin</a></li><li><a href="https://musicbyprin.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://musicbyprin.com</a></li></ul> Sponsors:<ul><li>She Produces Music: <a href="https://www.sheproducesmusic.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.sheproducesmusic.com</a></li></ul> Featured Song:<ul><li>”A Long Time Coming” by Prin, written by Princess Yvonne Duma (used with permission). All rights reserved.</li></ul> Timestamps:<ul><li>00:00 Teaser: Prin's Interview</li><li>00:26 Introduction</li><li>01:30 Meet Prin</li><li>01:53 Early Piano Roots</li><li>03:16 Stage Fright Breakthrough</li><li>06:40 Fordham and NYC Hustle</li><li>09:15 NYC Artist Community</li><li>11:55 Fear of Original Music</li><li>13:24 Mental Health Pivot</li><li>16:30 In the Hospital During 9/11</li><li>19:36 Back Injury Ends Gigging</li><li>20:46 Career In Counseling Education</li><li>22:23 SPONSOR: She Produces Music</li><li>25:22 Quit Job Then Car Accident</li><li>28:57 Return to Music and First Album</li><li>30:45 Finding New Creative Tools</li><li>31:36 Album Release Gets Derailed</li><li>33:34 Surgery Recovery Meets Pandemic</li><li>34:33 Learning Production Independence</li><li>36:22 Grief Becomes Healing Project</li><li>38:54 Mental Health and Balance</li><li>43:19 Letting Songs Be Imperfect</li><li>47:50 Reinventing Old Songs</li><li>52:26 Production Tips and Tech</li><li>01:00:34 Artist Identity and Where to Find Me</li><li>01:03:05 Coda</li><li>01:06:20 Featured Song: "A Long Time Coming" by Prin</li></ul> Stream all the released music from Second Verse any time! Add the official Songs from the Second Verse Podcast playlist to your Spotify now! <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5lPUAY9uBYVVg9fmy03Bj3?si=5211c2db80334285" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5lPUAY9uBYVVg9fmy03Bj3?si=5211c2db80334285</a>Or to your Tidal now!<a href="https://tidal.com/playlist/c84934ad-2723-4d1a-919e-2aebd4b4974d" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tidal.com/playlist/c84934ad-2723-4d1a-919e-2aebd4b4974d</a>Starting your own podcast? Sign up with Captivate to host your show today! <a href="https://fas.st/t/ZHbLxEpe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://fas.st/t/ZHbLxEpe</a> (affiliate link)

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What is Second Verse?: 🎙 Second Verse – Because it’s never too late to make music.

Are you an indie artist or creative dreaming of a second chance at your music career? Second Verse is the podcast that celebrates independent musicians, singer-songwriters, and artists who got started—or started again—after a more traditional career.

Join host Becky Boyland, a singer-songwriter and music branding expert, as she interviews indie artists who prove that success isn’t just for the young and major-label backed. Each episode dives into real-life stories of artists navigating their second verse in music—overcoming fears, finding their audience, and making their creative dreams a reality.

💡 What You’ll Get: ✅ Inspiring stories from independent musicians who took the leap ✅ Actionable tips for pursuing your music career at any stage ✅ Branding and marketing insights to grow your audience ✅ Motivation to finally take that next step toward your dream

No matter where you are on your musical journey, Second Verse will help you feel seen, supported, and ready to take action. Subscribe now, leave a review, and visit secondversepod.com to submit your story, connect on social media, and start your own Second Verse.

🎶 Your dream is still waiting—let’s make music.
How often does this podcast release new episodes?: This podcast updates daily.
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