Welcome to Second Wind—the podcast where setbacks meet comebacks and reinvention takes center stage. Hosted by five-time Olympian and world champion Marion Jones and Suzanne Evans, NY Times best-selling author, unapologetic business strategist, and one of the most sought-after comeback coaches in the industry, this show dives into the moments when life says, “Um, that didn’t go as planned.”
Marion’s journey has had its share of detours—winning medals, losing medals, even time in federal prison. But here’s the thing: failure is not forever. She found her Second Wind, and now, alongside Suzanne, she’s helping others do the same.
Suzanne knows a thing or two about resilience herself. From being an administrative assistant making $40K a year to building a multimillion-dollar business, she’s helped thousands of entrepreneurs pivot, rebuild, and create unstoppable success.
Together, she and Marion coach high performers to push past obstacles, redefine success, and take bold next steps.
Each episode of Second Wind brings you raw, honest, and inspiring conversations with guests who’ve faced epic wipeouts—only to rise up even stronger.
Because reinvention isn’t just possible—it’s inevitable.
It’s time to catch your Second Wind.
From Surviving Loss To Redefining Your Legacy with Melissa Rivers
In this candid and inspiring conversation, Melissa Rivers speaks on navigating life’s most difficult moments of grief. From dealing with the unexpected loss of her father at a young age, and the more recent loss of her legendary mother, Joan Rivers, to the losing her home in the LA fires earlier this year, Melissa opens up about becoming resilient and the importance of mental health support. She shares deeply personal stories, reflects on continuing her family legacy, and discusses motherhood, marriage and the state of the world’s sense of humor.
This interview captures the essence of Melissa Rivers — strong, hilarious, and refreshingly real — so press play and don’t miss any of the wisdom on how to thrive through grief and embrace your authentic self while laughing along the way.
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6 May 2025
From Public Pressures To Personal Power with Kayla Nicole
Kayla Nicole joins us for a thought-provoking conversation about building her fitness and wellness brand, navigating life as a public figure, and staying true to herself through it all. As a media personality, influencer, entrepreneur, and founder of Tribe Therepē, Kayla dives deep into her journey of empowerment and becoming her best self.
She also discusses the infamous fight between her and Marion on Special Forces: World’s Toughest Test, her strategy going into the challenge and how it felt to make it to the end of the show.
From Kayla’s personal growth to her business moves, she shares her raw insights, lessons learned, and what’s next on her horizon, while inspiring others to prioritize their mental health, live authentically and make lemon martinis when life gives you lemons!
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29 Apr 2025
From World Cup Champion to HRC Board Member with Ashlyn Harris
In this episode, we’re joined by 2x World Cup Champion and Human Rights Advocate, Ashlyn Harris, for an honest and powerful conversation about her life before, during and after retiring from soccer.
Ashlyn opens up about her journey of becoming an elite athlete, her personal growth, struggles and evolution, as well as what it means to live authentically in any spotlight. From her early days of chasing a dream to being at the top of her sport, Ashlyn shares her unfiltered insights on making a way for yourself. She also reflects on her parenting style, becoming a board member of the Human Rights Campaign, being a voice for change, and finding strength in vulnerability.
Navigating your own path can be difficult, but this conversation will leave you feeling seen, empowered, and ready to embrace your own story.
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22 Apr 2025
From Entertainment Executive to Mental Health Advocate
In the latest episode of Second Wind, we sit down with Tara Schuster—former Comedy Central executive turned bestselling self-help author and mental health advocate—to talk about the journey from outward success to inner healing. Tara opens up about her complicated upbringing and family dynamic that shaped her into being an overachiever. She vulnerably discusses the reality of not speaking to her mother for over 15 years, as well as the surprising validation she received from her father after sharing an early copy of her first book with him.
We dive into what it means to become successful through turmoil, the importance of self-awareness, and why journaling and finding the right therapist can be life-changing. Tara also advises on what steps to take to tap into your emotions and start doing the inner work. You won’t want to miss the exclusive details she gives us about her upcoming book either!
So, press play, learn and enjoy Tara’s beautiful story of healing, breakthrough and discovery.
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16 Apr 2025
From “Broke Surfer” to Beloved Sports Commentator with Selema Masekela
This week on Second Wind, Selema Masekela shares his incredible story of growing up as a child of immigrant parents to becoming a beloved and successful sports commentator.
Selema opens up about his personal struggles, triumphs, and the importance of representation in adventure sports. He discusses his journey navigating the challenges of being a Black man in a predominantly white-dominated field, as Marion relates with her own experiences of not seeing people like herself in certain spaces. However, Selema didn’t hold back as he explained the significance of breaking barriers and not asking for permission along the way. He believes his unique perspective has shaped his career in ways he couldn’t have imagined, and continues to share his insight with the youth through his organization - Stoked Mentoring. Additionally, Selema tells all about touring with Paul Simon, the beauty of traveling around the world instead of going to college and why DEI has become a taboo concept.
Don't miss this powerful conversation about resilience and pushing boundaries.
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16 Apr 2025
From a National Controversy to Unexpected Blessings with Jemele Hill
What happens when your beliefs clash with your workplace? Jemele Hill knows best.
In this episode, Jemele weighs in on the beauty of reinvention when life takes an unexpected turn. She reflects on her experience at ESPN following Donald Trump calling for her to be fired and the final straw that led to her “awkward” departure from the network. Jemele also reveals the real reason behind the end of Unbothered with Jemele Hill on Spotify.
Despite some challenges, the opportunities have continued to roll in for Jemele.. She details the creation of her new show, Spolitics, where she explores the intersection between sports, race, gender, sexuality and culture. She’s also added Executive Producer to her resume as she talks about her surreal experience of working with legends like Spike Lee and Colin Kaepernick. And, she’s expanding her author portfolio with an upcoming children’s book titled, Unapologetically You, as well as a new fictional novel.
Plus, Jemele shares her insights on the importance of challenging yourself, staying sexy for vacation in your fifties, and the delicate balance of work and life. Tune in for an episode full of inspiration, transparency, and professional and important revelations!
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16 Apr 2025
From Criticized Football Star To Accomplished Businessman with Cam Newton
This week on Second Wind, we’re joined by the one and only NFL legend, Cam Newton, as he dives deep into his journey both on and off the field.
Cam gives his candid perspective on the evolution of the Black quarterback, sharing his insight on breaking barriers and changing the game for future generations. He also reflects on his transition of life after football, explaining the lessons he’s learned along the way to becoming a successful businessman.
He continues to discuss how true greatness comes with confidence and authenticity, rather than trying to fit into others' expectations. He provides valuable advice on how people can navigate life after a setback, sharing his own personal experiences of bouncing back from challenging times and figuring out his next steps.
Cam and Marion also look back on their time competing on Special Forces: World’s Toughest Test, revealing how their friendship began, their competitive nature, and the most shocking aspects of the show.
But life isn’t just about work for Cam. He shares what it’s like in his personal life as well, balancing the roles of being a dad, boyfriend, and son in his fast-paced world of sports and business. Tap into this episode to hear his raw, real, and empowering approach to navigating the highs and lows of life, career, and personal growth.
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16 Apr 2025
From Heartbroken Bachelor to Successful Entrepreneur with Nick Viall
In this episode of Second Wind, Nick Viall tells all about the evolution of reality television, his relationship with Tom Sandoval and his opinion about reality stars and Artificial Intelligence.
As a new dad and husband, Nick opens up about the joys and challenges of becoming a parent alongside his wife as they navigate the highs of raising their daughter together. He shares the emotional rollercoaster of parenthood, from the laughter-filled moments to the overwhelming love that comes with it. But the conversation went even deeper and more vulnerable as Nick reflects on the pain of experiencing a miscarriage with their second child. He speaks honestly about how the loss has impacted him and his family, shedding light on the complexities of grief, healing, and finding strength in the face of adversity.
Whether you know Nick from Bachelor Nation, Special Forces: World’s Toughest Test, or The Viall Files… You know he’s impacted reality TV in a big way and made a lane for himself! Throughout this episode, Nick holds nothing back as he discusses his early days growing up in Wisconsin as 1 of 11 children, to his unexpected journey on television, and admits he never would’ve thought he’d be where he is today.
Don’t miss out on the powerful insights Nick shares in this truly inspiring conversation. There’s something for everyone as he gives his expert advice on carving out your niche on social media to his moving stories of resilience and navigating challenges as a family. Tune in now for your weekly dose of motivation!
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16 Apr 2025
From The Tabloid Era to Taking Over Reality TV with Denise Richards
Join us for an insightful and candid conversation with the dynamic Denise Richards. As a mother, wife, actress, model and reality TV star - Denise discusses her remarkable journey from early successes to surprising set backs and what she did to overcome every hurdle put in front of her.
As castmates on Fox’s Special Forces: World’s Toughest Test, Marion and Denise begin the podcast reminiscing about the development of their friendship, and Suzanne gets the ladies to reveal their unfiltered opinions about what happened on the show, what they would do differently and the unforeseen difficulty level of the challenges.
Denise also opens up about her publicized divorce from Charlie Sheen, how it affected her career, mental health and children. The tabloid era of media took a toll on her life, but what she did next, made all the difference. Denise shares how she originally got into reality television, what coparenting with Charlie looks like now, and the decision to put her family back in the spotlight with their new show, Denise Richards and Her Wild Things.
Filled with laughter, honest reflections, and powerful life lessons, this episode is a must-listen. Denise also divulges how she finds peace amid the chaos, her goal of living on a farm and tells the truth about her and her daughter’s OnlyFans accounts. You won’t want to miss this episode!
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7 Mar 2025
Welcome to Second Wind
Marion Jones and Suzanne Evans welcome you to Second Wind, the podcast where we have honest conversations with individuals who have faced adversity, experienced major setbacks, and still found an extraordinary path forward. Through real stories and expert insights, listeners will gain inspiration, actionable strategies, and a fresh perspective on what it truly means to reinvent oneself.
Tune in every Tuesday starting March 18th, to catch your Second Wind.
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