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Seen by Birkman

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by Amy Shepley and Torri Olanski

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You know that moment when someone names something about you that you’ve never had words for… and suddenly, you feel seen. Not in a way that’s flattering or critical. Just really… real. That’s what this podcast is about. On Seen by Birkman, hosts Amy Shepley and Torri Olanski explore real stories, practical applications, and honest conversations about what it actually looks like to be understood through the power of perception. Each episode dives into the patterns behind behavior and how greater awareness can transform the way we work, lead, and relate to each other.

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July 28, 2026

The Problem With Conflict

Conflict isn't usually the problem.In this episode, Amy and Torri explore why so much conflict at work, at home, and in our relationships begins with a simple misunderstanding: we assume other people see the world the way we do.They unpack why two well-intentioned people can experience the exact same situation in completely different ways, how hidden personality differences shape our reactions, and why trying to eliminate conflict often creates even bigger problems.Rather than seeing conflict as something to avoid, they argue that healthy conflict—paired with curiosity and understanding—is one of the most powerful drivers of trust, innovation, and stronger relationships. Key Moments- Why most conflict starts with different perceptions, not bad intentions.- The hidden assumptions that damage relationships.- How different personality needs create completely different experiences of the same conversation.- Why curiosity is more powerful than certainty.- The difference between destructive conflict and productive tension.- How understanding another person's perspective can completely change the conversation. Timestamps6:13 - Why tension between teams is actually healthy17:12 - The leader's real job: managing tension30:13 - Why 99% of conflict is a misunderstanding38:24 - Why productive conflict drives innovation49:56 - Stop trying to eliminate conflict1:03:11 - The question that changes every conflict Episode Links:Barry Johnson Ph.D., Polarity Management: Identifying and Managing Unsolvable Problems:<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Polarity-Management-Identifying-Managing-Unsolvable/dp/0874251761">https://www.amazon.com/Polarity-Management-Identifying-Managing-Unsolvable/dp/0874251761</a>

July 14, 2026

The Hidden World of Needs: Part 2

In Part 2 of this conversation on Needs, Amy and Torri explore what happens after we become aware of our Needs. They discuss why unmet Needs create discomfort, how the stories we attach to them create unnecessary suffering, and how greater self-awareness can lead to more freedom, healthier relationships, and a deeper appreciation for who we are. Rather than trying to eliminate our Needs, they explore how accepting them, advocating for them, and loosening our attachment to unmet expectations can change the way we experience work, leadership, and everyday life. Key Moments- Part 2 explores the deeper emotional and personal side of Needs.- Unmet Needs create discomfort, but the stories we attach to them often create the greatest suffering.- Awareness is only the beginning. Growth comes through appreciation, communication, and practice.- Letting go of attachment does not mean ignoring your Needs or pretending they do not matter.- Understanding your reactions can become a powerful tool for self-awareness.- Loving your Needs instead of judging them can change your relationship with yourself and others. Timestamps01:33 - When Needs become more than a workplace tool06:02 - Are we becoming attached to our Needs?11:29 - The stages of growth with Birkman Needs20:44 - The story we tell ourselves when Needs go unmet30:11 - Feeling discomfort without adding more suffering35:13 - Why we notice others' flaws before our own39:08 - Learning to appreciate your Needs instead of fighting them45:00 - Why this conversation is the future of work

June 30, 2026

The Hidden World of Needs: Part 1

Needs are one of the most powerful and misunderstood parts of Birkman.In this episode, Amy and Torri begin a two-part conversation on what Needs are, why they matter, and how they shape the way people experience work, relationships, and themselves.They explore the difference between what people show on the outside and what they need on the inside. From Assertiveness to Social Energy to Emotional Energy, they unpack why people can look one way but need something very different from their environment.They also address common misunderstandings: Needs are not "needy", illogical, or a weakness. They are part of a person’s internal wiring. When people understand and communicate their Needs with awareness, they can move from frustration and reactivity toward healthier relationships, stronger teams, and more productive work. Key Moments<ul><li>Needs are the hidden layer that makes Birkman different.</li><li>Usual Behavior shows how someone operates but Needs reveal what helps them stay productive.</li><li>People often assume others need the same things they do, which creates confusion and conflict.</li><li>Needs are not excuses or demands. They are information.</li><li>When Needs are unmet over time, people are more likely to move into distress.</li><li>Understanding Needs can help people feel seen, respected, and better equipped to manage themselves.</li></ul> Timestamps04:55 - What Needs are and how they differ from Usual Behavior07:27 - Why everyone has a different internal roadmap12:24 - Examples of Needs in the workplace19:28 - How unmet Needs can lead to Distress31:31 - Common reactions when people first learn their Needs46:17 - How Needs can shift from empowerment to entitlement57:12 - Practical ways to use Needs information1:01:52 - Amy and Torri reflect on their own Needs

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What is Seen by Birkman?: You know that moment when someone names something about you that you’ve never had words for… and suddenly, you feel seen. Not in a way that’s flattering or critical. Just really… real. That’s what this podcast is about.

On Seen by Birkman, hosts Amy Shepley and Torri Olanski explore real stories, practical applications, and honest conversations about what it actually looks like to be understood through the power of perception. Each episode dives into the patterns behind behavior and how greater awareness can transform the way we work, lead, and relate to each other.
How often does this podcast release new episodes?: This podcast updates daily.
Where can I listen to this podcast?: This podcast is available on 4 platforms including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and more. You can also use the RSS feed directly.
Does this podcast accept guests?: No, this podcast does not typically feature guests.

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