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Shalom Project

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by Mitchell Lavender

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Honest stories, real healing, and tools for living whole—inside and outside the church. <a href="https://mitchelllavender.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast">mitchelllavender.substack.com</a>

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January 22, 2026

When Ministry Gets the Best of You—and Relationships Get the Rest

In this milestone 50th episode, Mitch Lavender and Christian Konhaeuser-Lopez conclude their Entering Ministry for the First Time series by addressing a question many helping-profession workers quietly wrestle with:How do we keep our most important relationships from receiving only our leftovers?This conversation explores the tension between meaningful work and meaningful relationships—especially in ministry, where work can feel sacred, urgent, and all-consuming. Mitch and Christian reflect on fatigue, over-responsibility, blurred boundaries, and the subtle ways work can become an escape or even a substitute for trust in God.Rather than offering quick fixes, the episode invites listeners into a gentler, more realistic vision of faithfulness—one rooted in pacing, self-awareness, and allowing God to remain at the center of a dynamic, embodied life.Key Themes & Takeaways* Why relationships suffer under “good” work* Over-loyalty to the job* Difficulty saying no* Feeling like you must be the hero everywhere* Fatigue and compassion burnout* Letting work follow you home* Ministry is not meant to replace your walk with God* When ministry becomes your whole spirituality, other areas of life quietly deteriorate* You are called to shepherd, not to save* “Scope creep” in life and ministry* Taking responsibility for what was never yours* Doing “God-things” instead of human-sized faithfulness* Tending your internal garden* Burnout is often a sign of neglected inner care* “Add yourself back in” is not selfish—it’s necessary* Reimagining balance* Ministry begins in your actual, ordinary life—not an idealized version of it* Faithfulness flows outward from lived worship, not performance* God at the center, not the top of a list* A spoke-and-hub metaphor for life with God at the center* Energy flows dynamically to where it’s needed without abandoning core rhythms* Norms protect relationships* Healthy patterns create freedom during emergencies* Consistency builds resilience, not rigiditySeries ReflectionThis episode marks the conclusion of the Entering Ministry for the First Time series. The series has explored vocation, values, boundaries, expectations, and sustainability—not just for ministry, but for anyone in caregiving or helping professions.It’s Time For a Break!We’re taking a short, intentional pause through March to read, reflect, and let new ideas take root.The Shalom Project has always been about depth over urgency, and this season is part of that commitment.We’ll be back in April with a new series shaped by what we’re learning.InvitationIf this episode stirred something in you:* You’re welcome to reach out with questions* Coaching conversations are available* And we would love to hear what you are practicing and learning“To the next 50.” Get full access to Shalom Project at <a href="https://mitchelllavender.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4">mitchelllavender.substack.com/subscribe</a>

January 15, 2026

SII 021 | Serving God Without Losing Yourself

What happens after you take the job?Many conversations about ministry discernment focus on interviews, resumes, and hiring decisions. But the real work often begins after the offer letter is signed—when the honeymoon phase fades and the deeper values of a ministry begin to surface.In Episode 49, Mitch Lavender and co-host Christian Konhaeuser-Lopez continue the Entering Into Ministry for the First Time series by shifting the lens to life inside the role.This is a conversation for anyone quietly asking:“Is this still healthy for me?”What We Talk About in This EpisodeThe First 60–90 DaysWhy the early months matter so much—and how listening, observing, and asking questions can help you discern what’s really going on beneath the surface.Healthy Skepticism (Without Cynicism)How to pay attention without becoming combative, guarded, or disillusioned—and why awareness is an act of wisdom, not rebellion.Burnout vs. Compassion FatigueWe unpack the difference between the two, how they show up in ministry, and why both often go unnamed until damage is already done.One subtle sign burnout may be beginning:when you stop operating from your person and start operating from your position.Values Alignment and Long-Term CostIs this place worth your heart, your energy, your time, and your family—five, ten, or twenty years from now?Not every misalignment means you should leave.But not every misalignment is survivable.The Question That Changes EverythingCan I coexist here without losing myself or my values?This question becomes a compass—whether the answer is yes or no.When It’s Time to Part WaysWe normalize something rarely spoken out loud:parting ways can be biblical, faithful, and done with dignity.Leaving doesn’t automatically mean failure, rebellion, or lack of faith.Backup Plans and Real-World PressureWhat to do when finances, loyalty, fear, or spiritual guilt make discernment feel impossible—and why having a Plan B is not a lack of trust in God.Spiritual Direction as SupportWhy having someone outside your ministry—who holds no power over you—can be essential during seasons of discernment.Why This Episode MattersMinistry is sacred work.It is also risky work.We know you care.We know you love God.We know you want to serve well.This episode is dense. If you remember one thing, remember this:“Do not forget yourself in the process. Pay attention and take care of yourself.”Because discernment becomes nearly impossible when you are depleted, disconnected, or overwhelmed.Resources Mentioned* A Church Called Tov by Laura Barringer and Scot McKnight* <a target="_blank" href="https://www.soulroots.space/">Soul Roots Spiritual Formation</a> (BIPOC-centered, free spiritual direction)* Previous Shalom Project episode: <a target="_blank" href="https://mitchelllavender.substack.com/p/023-deconstruction-are-there-good">God Is Not Surprised That You Left Church</a>A Final WordIf you find yourself in a ministry role where values feel misaligned, or you’re quietly carrying questions you don’t feel safe asking—You don’t have to hold that alone.You’re welcome to reach out privately.We’re here to listen.We’re here to hold space.We’re here to remind you that you matter too.Next episode: “Your Family Doesn’t Get Seconds” — a conversation about boundaries, loyalty, and core relationships.Music By: Zakar Valaha from Pixabay Get full access to Shalom Project at <a href="https://mitchelllavender.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4">mitchelllavender.substack.com/subscribe</a>

January 8, 2026

SII 020 Evaluating Values, Power, and Definitions of Success

In this episode of The Shalom Project, Mitch Lavender is joined by co-host Christian Konhaeuser-Lopez as they continue their series on entering into ministry for the first time.This conversation centers on a crucial (and often overlooked) reality: you are interviewing a ministry just as much as they are interviewing you.Together, Mitch and Christian explore how interviews can act as a microcosm of ministry culture—revealing values, power dynamics, expectations, and definitions of success long before you ever say “yes.”In this episode, we explore:* Why interviews are about mutual discernment, not just qualification* Key questions to ask when evaluating a ministry’s values and culture* How to pay attention to your body, nervous system, and intuition during interviews* Why understanding power dynamics (authority, race, gender, culture, economics) matters* What it means when a ministry defines success by:* Attendance* Baptisms* Stories of transformation* Service metrics* The danger of value misalignment—and the cost of long-term compromise* How to assess whether a ministry invites mutual thriving or quiet assimilation* Why being “picky” (when possible) is an act of wisdom, not selfishness* The interview as a blind date—not a marriage proposalQuestions discussed in the episode include:* What happened to the last person in this role?* Who do I directly report to?* Who do I talk to if I have an issue with my direct report?* How does leadership relate to congregants / parishioners?* How do you define success in ministry?* What are the core values held by the leadership team?Each question is framed not as suspicion—but as curiosity, care, and self-respect.Extra Questions:* Who does my direct report, report to?* What are long-term goals of the leadership?* How do we handle HR issues? Is there an HR Team/department?* How is conflict handled?* How does the leadership team handle feedback?* How is the work life balance?* What’s the culture of the Leadership team?* Would you work here again?A posture we encourage:Come curious.Come grounded.Come honest about your needs and boundaries.And if you can, do not compromise your values out of fear or urgency.A faster “yes” is not always a safer one.If alignment is there — beautiful.If it isn’t — that information matters.And sometimes, if you can’t find it, you may be called to create it elsewhere.Recommended ResourceWe reference The Church Called Tov by Scott McKnight and Laura Barringer as a helpful framework for thinking through church culture, leadership health, and institutional values.What’s next?In the next episode, we shift the lens:👉 You’ve been hired. Now what?We’ll explore posture, boundaries, and discernment after you step into a ministry role.As always, take what’s helpful.Leave what’s not.And may you move toward places where your values—and your humanity—are welcomed.Music By: Zakar Valaha from Pixabay Get full access to Shalom Project at <a href="https://mitchelllavender.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4">mitchelllavender.substack.com/subscribe</a>

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What is Shalom Project?: Honest stories, real healing, and tools for living whole—inside and outside the church. <a href="https://mitchelllavender.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast">mitchelllavender.substack.com</a>
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