Episode 265: When the Life You Planned Falls Apart
From the outside, Jody Allen and her husband looked like the average Christian couple—raising a family, serving in church, and building a life together. Behind closed doors, however, Jody was facing the painful reality of her husband's pornography addiction, deception, and betrayal. Eventually, she made the difficult decision to ask him to leave, beginning a journey through separation, divorce, grief, and healing.
Jody joins Katie and Julianne for an honest conversation about releasing shame, staying grounded in Scripture, finding wise counseling, accepting help from Christian community, and learning to grieve the life she envisioned.
Today, Jody uses her story to encourage other women with a message of hope: even if your marriage doesn't make it, your life can still be good. Pain and addiction don't have to have the final word. With God, there can be healing, purpose, and even flourishing on the other side.
Her book: Hidden Heartache (https://a.co/d/0gVq1Kbp)
2 Oct 2026
Episode 264: Finding God in the Trenches
What happens when grief doesn't come one loss at a time—but in layers?
Author Jen Conrad joins Katie and Cindy to share about a season of compound grief that included the sudden loss of her family's business and financial security, broken friendships, the heartbreak of being unable to bring home their adopted children from Sierra Leone, and the devastating death of her mother.
For a long time, Jen believed grieving was a sign of weakness. So she kept moving, stayed busy, and tried to numb the pain rather than face it. But through journaling, honest conversations with God, and learning to be still enough to listen, she began discovering that God hadn't left her in the trenches—He was meeting her there.
Jen's story, and her book Finding God in the Trenches, remind us that we don't have to reach the other side of our pain before God can work in it. There may still be unanswered questions and unfinished chapters, but we are never too far gone for Jesus to reach us.
Jen's book: Finding God in the Trenches (https://a.co/d/0iqwyM1M)
18 Sept 2026
Episode 263: When Grief Wasn’t the End
Tracey Smith spent years searching for the love, security, and sense of worth she longed for. When she reached a place where she no longer wanted to live, she prayed for a child—someone she could pour her love into. God answered with her beautiful daughter, Treasury. Then, at just three years old, Treasury was diagnosed with leukemia.
In this deeply moving conversation with Katie and Cindy, Tracey shares the heartbreaking journey of losing her four-year-old daughter and the defining moment when her grief became the beginning of a deeper relationship with God. Rather than turning away from Him, Tracey made a decision to know the God who now held her daughter—and that decision changed the trajectory of her life.
This is a story of devastating loss, renewed identity, transformation, and hope. If you're walking through grief or a chapter you never would have chosen, Tracey's story is a beautiful reminder that grief doesn't have to be the end. God is still writing your story.
Tracey's books:
Heaven's Playground (https://a.co/d/0cj3ynRP)
Be Cute for You (https://a.co/d/00pwKywU)
The Inspirational Hustle (https://a.co/d/041Hdzhr)
Book Katie mentioned: Believing is Seeing by Dr. Michael Guillen (https://a.co/d/0hjp0udo)
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