Show Me the Data

About Show Me the Data

Show Me the Data is a podcast about evidence-based decision making and the many ways in which our lives interact with and create data. Each episode, your host – RIDL Data Scientist & Partnerships Lead Rhetta Chappell – discusses key policies, barriers and opportunities with industry, policymakers and researchers who use data to inform, monitor and evaluate efforts to drive sustainable, positive change. Show Me the Data acknowledges the Jagera peoples who are the traditional custodians of the land on which we are recording. And we pay respect to the elder’s past, present and emerging.

Publisher

Relational Insights Data Lab (RIDL) at Griffith University

Category

technology

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

13 Aug 2021

Latest episode

23 Mar 2026

Latest episodes

12 of 23 episodes have a transcript.

1. 

   23 Mar 2026TRANSCRIPT

   Emotional Intelligence is the New AI with Nic Gibson, Founder of inTruth

   What if the key to the next AI revolution isn’t more data but deeper emotional understanding? In this episode, we sit down with Nic Gibson, CEO and founder of inTruth Technologies, to explore how emotional intelligence is reshaping technology. Nic shares her journey from early work in mental health prevention as Australia's youngest-ever Mental Health Commissioner appointed at 21 to founding inTruth, the world’s first emotion bio-tech company. We unpack the science and ethics behind emotion measurement, real-world use cases across health and business, and why privacy must remain at the core of emotional AI. Hosted by Dr Tom Verhelst, co-hosted by Jessica Chen Show Notes: ⁠Nicole Gibson | LinkedIn⁠ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicjgibson/) ⁠IN TRUTH⁠ (https://www.intruth.io/)

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   16 Mar 2026TRANSCRIPT

   Control, Effectiveness and a Systems Based Approach to High Stakes Risk Management

   Paul Chivers and Rhetta Chappell interview Tom Verhelst about using real-time data and systems thinking to improve high-stakes risk management and drive executive decisions.

3. 

   9 Mar 2026TRANSCRIPT

   Mirrors, Metadata, and the Curse of Knowledge — A Conversation with Kat Greenbrook

   Data are rarely neutral. In this episode, data storyteller and author of The Data Storyteller's Handbook, Kat Greenbrook, makes the case that before we can communicate data well, we need to understand where it came from and why. Who collected it? For what purpose? Under what constraints? Because the answers shape everything that follows. Kat unpacks why metadata isn't a technical afterthought but a critical lens for interpreting meaning, and why data are better understood as mirrors of the organisations and moments that produced them than as objective records of reality. We also explore the "curse of knowledge" — the all-too-common trap where deep expertise makes it harder, not easier, to communicate clearly — and what data professionals can do to bridge the gap between what they know and what their audience actually needs. Practical, provocative, and genuinely useful for anyone trying to turn numbers into decisions. Hosted by Rhetta Chappell, Data Scientist at RIDL, Griffith University. Show Notes: Kat Greenbrook | LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/katgreenbrook/) The Data Storyteller’s Handbook | Rogue Penguin (https://www.roguepenguin.co.nz/book) PGAI Framework Templates and Resources | Rogue Penguin (https://www.roguepenguin.co.nz/book/downloads) NAPLAN Achievement Data Explorer | Griffith University RIDL (https://www.griffith.edu.au/engage/partnerships/relational-insights-data-lab/projects#NAPLAN-Achievement-Data-Explorer)

Inside a recent episode

Emotional Intelligence is the New AI with Nic Gibson, Founder of inTruth

Published 23 Mar 2026 · Transcript excerpt

[…] So I think this type of data hopefully gives us a source of truth into the true well-being of humanity. And you can't unsee what's seen. You know, I think we have a tendency as a world to watch a war in Syria and not feel anything. And that is, that's not right. You know, because if it was a sister or a mother or a daughter or a son or a brother we would and so the the the real key to our evolution i believe is the capacity to experience empathy and compassion for all of humanity and our brains have not evolved to be able to do this you know we can empathize meaningfully with maybe 120 people but we have decision makers and we have power players in our world that with single decisions or single announcements on x can change the lives of billions of people. […]

Who has been a guest on Show Me the Data

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• Paul Chivers
• Rhetta Chappell
• Tom Verhelst
• Jim Hogan

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YouTube views

487

Score snapshot 15 Sept 2025

Spotify

5.0 / 5

11 ratings

Podcast Authority Score: 41 / 100

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Quality

28

Social presence

0

YouTube

66

Engagement

68

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