- 18
- Episodes
- 6
- Ratings
- 2025
- First episode
About So, About That...
So, About That... is a bi-weekly podcast hosted by Jordan Hora. Whether our conversation is breaking down why nostalgia is a scam, figuring out if we’re actually bad at relationships, or asking why activism has turned into a digital performance—this podcast is where culture, curiosity, and a little bit of side-eye come together. It's for the thinkers, the over-analyzers, and the ones who love a good debate over brunch. We’re building community, challenging our beliefs, and probably exposing a few of our own contradictions along the way. It’s all love though. If we’re gonna talk about it, we might as well really talk about it.
- Publisher
- WATZS Podcast Network
- Category
- news · society & culture
- Language
- en
- Explicit
- No
- First episode
- 12 Mar 2025
- Latest episode
- 27 May 2026
Latest episodes
18 episodes in the feed.
27 May 2026
Black Experiences Off Script
In this episode of So, About That…, host Jordan Hora takes a deep dive into "Black Experiences Off Script" and what the 2025–2026 awards season unintentionally revealed about the way Black people are perceived, celebrated, and scrutinized. From the Teyana Taylor/bodyguard Oscars incident to the "braids undone" comment at the BAFTAs and its aftermath, to the national conversation pitting Sinners against One Battle After Another, this awards season became a case study in how quickly public narratives can reinforce systems that leave Black people unprotected—even in moments of extraordinary achievement. So, About That… – This podcast is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.” The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! WATCH NOW HERE! Join us on Patreon! A unique creative hub curated by tastemakers in culture, entertainment, literature, art, conversations and beyond. Join the WATZS Dome for exclusive behind the scenes content. SUBSCRIBE HERE Check out the WATZS Podcast Network HERE and drop us a line. Follow me on socials: @soaboutthatpod / @JordanHora / Threads:Jordan Hora / Facebook: Jordan Hora / @thewatzspod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
13 May 2026
Lies Your Boss Told You
In this episode of So, About That…, host Jordan Hora takes a hard look at the professional advice many of us were taught to follow without question. "Fake it till you make it." "Keep your head down and work hard." "Straighten your hair if you want to get promoted." "No one cares about you—just perform." But what happens when the rules we were given were never designed with us in mind? Jordan explores the gap between the promise of success and the reality of pursuing it, examining the hidden costs of workplace conformity, performative professionalism, and career advice that often demands authenticity be sacrificed for acceptance. So, About That… – This podcast is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.” The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! WATCH NOW HERE! Join us on Patreon! A unique creative hub curated by tastemakers in culture, entertainment, literature, art, conversations and beyond. Join the WATZS Dome for exclusive behind the scenes content. SUBSCRIBE HERE Check out the WATZS Podcast Network HERE and drop us a line. Follow me on socials: @soaboutthatpod / @JordanHora / Threads:Jordan Hora / Facebook: Jordan Hora / @thewatzspod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
4 Mar 2026
The Etiquette That No One Teaches
In this episode of So, About That…, host Jordan Hora examines the explores the hidden social rules that quietly shape opportunity, perception, and belonging. From dining etiquette and dress codes to email tone, vacations, introductions, and even splitting the bill, we unpack the unspoken markers that often signal class, privilege, and access. Through conversations around Black cultural etiquette, white-collar “professionalism,” and the realities of luxury culture, this episode challenges what society labels as “proper” and asks a deeper question: Are we teaching refinement—or reinforcing exclusion? So, About That… – This podcast is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.” The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! WATCH NOW HERE! Join us on Patreon! A unique creative hub curated by tastemakers in culture, entertainment, literature, art, conversations and beyond. Join the WATZS Dome for exclusive behind the scenes content. SUBSCRIBE HERE Check out the WATZS Podcast Network HERE and drop us a line. Follow me on socials: @soaboutthatpod / @JordanHora / Threads:Jordan Hora / Facebook: Jordan Hora / @thewatzspod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
18 Feb 2026
Gossip, Group Chats & Grown Folks Business
In this episode of So, About That…, host Jordan Hora examines the blurry line between gossip and sharing your experience. The central question: Where’s the line between protecting your community and destroying someone’s reputation? Where is the line between gossip, processing, and pattern recognition? In a world of hot takes and shady group texts, what do we call what we’re doing when we “just want to vent”? Radical Question: When does information sharing become identity shaping? So, About That… – This podcast is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.” The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! WATCH NOW HERE! Join us on Patreon! A unique creative hub curated by tastemakers in culture, entertainment, literature, art, conversations and beyond. Join the WATZS Dome for exclusive behind the scenes content. SUBSCRIBE HERE Check out the WATZS Podcast Network HERE and drop us a line. Follow me on socials: @soaboutthatpod / @JordanHora / Threads:Jordan Hora / Facebook: Jordan Hora / @thewatzspod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
4 Feb 2026
So, About… The Love We Inherited
In this special episode of So, About That…, host Jordan Hora blends tenderness with a little side-eye to unpack the generational lessons about love we absorbed — whether we asked for them or not. From family dynamics and chosen community to emotional restraint, public affection, and vulnerability, this conversation explores the quiet messages passed down through households, churches, movements, and social timelines. This isn’t just about dating. It’s about non-romantic love, self-love that isn’t performative, and the idea of love as liberation — not just aesthetic. So, About That… – This podcast is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.” The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! WATCH NOW HERE! Join us on Patreon! A unique creative hub curated by tastemakers in culture, entertainment, literature, art, conversations and beyond. Join the WATZS Dome for exclusive behind the scenes content. SUBSCRIBE HERE Check out the WATZS Podcast Network HERE and drop us a line. Follow me on socials: @soaboutthatpod / @JordanHora / Threads:Jordan Hora / Facebook: Jordan Hora / @thewatzspod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
24 Dec 2025
Making Spirits Bright (Your Way)
In this episode of "So, About That...," Jordan Hora explores holiday reflection on rewriting joy, one tradition at a time. This episode explores how we celebrate the holidays when our lives don’t follow the traditional scripts. From sending solo holiday cards to redefining what joy looks like under your own roof, we reflect on rituals, representation, and the quiet courage it takes to show up fully in the season you're actually living not just the one people expect. Whether you’re single, starting over, thriving, or rethinking how you mark the moment, this conversation is for anyone crafting meaning in nontraditional ways. Let’s talk about the customs, courage, and creativity that help us honor the holidays on our own terms. So, About That… This show is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.” WATCH NOW HERE! The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! Check out the WATZS Podcast Network HERE and drop us a line. Follow me on socials @soaboutthatpod @JordanHora Threads: Jordan Hora Facebook: Jordan Hora @thewatzspod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
10 Dec 2025
The Books We Are and the Pages we’re on
In this episode of "So, About That...," Jordan Hora explores the stories we’re living and the ones we’re still writing. From the actual books that have shaped us to the metaphorical chapters we’re editing in real time, we reflect on authorship, self-discovery, and what it means to turn the page even when the path ahead isn’t clear. Whether we're in a plot twist, a pause, or starting fresh, this conversation is for anyone rethinking how their story unfolds. Let’s talk about the books, beliefs, and breakthroughs that are helping us write the next chapter with intention. So, About That… This show is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.” WATCH NOW HERE! The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! Check out the WATZS Podcast Network HERE and drop us a line. Follow me on socials @soaboutthatpod @JordanHora Threads: Jordan Hora Facebook: Jordan Hora @thewatzspod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
15 Oct 2025
Why HBCU Homecomings are The Blackest Multiverse
In this episode of "So, About That...," Jordan Hora explores before there was Coachella, there was the Yard. From School Daze to Drum-line, this episode celebrates the fictional HBCU homecomings that shaped Black pop culture and why those onscreen celebrations still echo in our real-life traditions today. Jordan reflects on how homecoming isn’t just a party, but a political, spiritual, and cultural pilgrimage. And we ask: what are we coming home to now? What’s worth preserving, remixing, or retiring in how we show up for one another? So, About That… This show is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.” WATCH NOW HERE! The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! Check out the WATZS Podcast Network HERE and drop us a line. Follow me on socials @soaboutthatpod @JordanHora Threads: Jordan Hora Facebook: Jordan Hora @thewatzspod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
17 Sept 2025
Oops, We Normalized That: 15 Red Flags We Ignored and the Ripple Effects We’re Living In
In this episode of "So, About That...," Jordan Hora explores how we didn’t just wake up in a world where truth feels optional, manipulation is profitable, and dysfunction is binge-worthy—it happened moment by moment. This installment will trace 15 cultural, political, and tech-driven shifts that slowly unraveled our collective sense of what’s ethical, acceptable, or even real. So, About That… This show is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.” WATCH NOW HERE! The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! Check out the WATZS Podcast Network HERE and drop us a line. Follow me on socials @soaboutthatpod @JordanHora Threads: Jordan Hora Facebook: Jordan Hora @thewatzspod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
3 Sept 2025
Why Dating Feels More Like Content Than Connection!
In this installment of "So, About That...," the amazing Jordan Hora returns from Summer Break to delve into a realm where, why dating feels more like content than connection, how "talking stages" get soft-launched and breakups get hard-filtered, modern dating feels less like intimacy and more like Instagram strategy. In this episode, she’s unpacking why connection keeps getting lost in the scroll how algorithm-approved advice, aesthetic expectations, and emotional thirst traps have turned dating into digital theater. So, About That… This show is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.” WATCH NOW HERE! The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! Check out the WATZS Podcast Network HERE and drop us a line. Follow me on socials @soaboutthatpod @JordanHora Threads: Jordan Hora Facebook: Jordan Hora @thewatzspod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
18 Jun 2025
The Contradictions of Becoming
Jordan Hora examines the contradictions surrounding personal transformation, highlighting the tension between idealized progress and the messy realities of growth.
4 Jun 2025
The Art of Failure: Celebrating Creative Flops in Film and TV
Jordan Hora explores the misunderstood masterpieces and initially unsuccessful creative works in film and television, celebrating the value of failure in the artistic process.
21 May 2025
Bad Advice: Your Timeline Is Not Your Therapist
Jordan Hora discusses how social media trends offer bad advice, encouraging listeners to trust their inner voice rather than blindly following online perspectives in this episode.
7 May 2025
The Many Faces of Femininity
Jordan Hora examines the multifaceted concept of femininity, particularly how Black women challenge and redefine its restrictive frameworks, reclaiming its power and diverse expressions in this episode.
23 Apr 2025
The Psychology of Fandom - Why We Obsess Over Fictional Worlds
Jordan Hora explores the psychology of fandom, examining its impact on society and tracing its evolution into a global phenomenon, revealing why people obsess over fictional worlds.
9 Apr 2025
The Ethics of Nostalgia – Are We Glorifying the Past at the Expense of Progress?
In this episode of "So, About That...", Jordan Hora explores the cultural trend of nostalgia and its widespread presence in media, fashion, and politics. She also considers whether our yearning for the past is beneficial or if it impedes societal advancement, as well as how we can find a way to honor our history while welcoming the future. So, About That… This show is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.” WATCH NOW HERE! The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! Check out the WATZS Podcast Network HERE and drop us a line. Follow me on socials @soaboutthatpod @JordanHora Threads: Jordan Hora Facebook: Jordan Hora @thewatzspod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
27 Mar 2025
We All We Got – The Power of Building Community
In this episode of "So, About That...", Jordan Hora delves into a period marked by social justice movements, the onset of America's democratic decline, economic challenges, and a sense of digital disconnection. Millennials, Gen Xers, and Gen Z are reestablishing the importance of community. From mutual aid systems to women empowering one another and Black-owned business collectives, this fresh wave of activism is founded on mutual support. This episode examines the significance of fostering community ties, how these practices are transforming in our digital era, and offers insights for listeners on how to take initiative within their own networks. So, About That… This show is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.” WATCH NOW HERE! The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! Check out the WATZS Podcast Network HERE and drop us a line. Follow me on socials @soaboutthatpod @JordanHora Threads: Jordan Hora Facebook: Jordan Hora @thewatzspod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
12 Mar 2025
So, About That… Let’s Talk About It!
Welcome to Season 2 of So, About That… with host, Jordan Hora—the podcast that engages you in a dialogue rather than simply speaking at you. If you're searching for a show that will entertain you, provoke thought, challenge your existing beliefs, and highlight the significance of community, then… Congratulations. You’ve tapped into the right place! In this season, we’re diving deep—exploring fandom culture, nostalgia, setbacks, digital spirituality, activism, and how we all navigate life's complexities in real time. But this is more than just another podcast. This is a shared space. A conversation hub. A valuable moment in time—and we're creating it together. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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- 5.0 / 5
- 6 ratings
Podcast Authority Score: 19 / 100
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- 5
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- 94
- YouTube
- 0
- Engagement
- 32
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