What happens when someone who grew up a self-described “barn brat,” became an assistant trainer, left the horse business for an entirely different career—and then, years later, came back to help lead the American Saddlebred industry?
We’re talking with ASHBA Executive Director Sara Mayer about exactly that journey—and why she believes some of the biggest opportunities for our breed may still be ahead of us.
We talk about rebuilding trust, getting more people through the doors of our barns, putting fans back in the stands, and creating an association that people don’t just have to join—but actually want to be part of.
Sara reminds us that sometimes the work that changes an industry isn’t the flashy stuff. It’s putting the right pieces in place so the big ideas can finally happen.
There’s a lot happening behind the scenes at ASHBA—and Sara is giving us a look inside.
10 Sept 2026
Back To School With Missy Smith
It's back-to-school season, so we thought it was a perfect time to sit down with Missy Smith, Saddle Seat Instructor at William Woods University, who just watched her first graduating class walk across the stage, get their diplomas, and embark on their own unique futures in our horse industry. We talk about the journey that took her from a horse-crazy kid in Maine to one of the industry's most respected educators. Along the way, we dive into mentorship, collaboration, the evolving horse industry, and why bringing new people into the sport may be the most important job any of us has. If you've ever wondered what it takes to build a career in horses—or how we ensure this industry thrives for generations to come—this is a conversation you’re going to want to hear.
9 Apr 2026
At The Heart Of It With Tara Wentz-Goosley
In this episode of Stable-Minded, we sit down with Tara Wentz-Goosley to talk about a life shaped by horses—from barn rat beginnings and catch riding anything she could stay on, to building a thriving training program and developing riders from the ground up. Along the way, Tara shares stories that are equal parts funny, honest, and deeply relatable, while also diving into bigger conversations about the future of the industry, the importance of bringing new people through the barn doors, and why the horse world continues to be a powerful source of connection, purpose, and belonging for so many.
31 Mar 2026
Trying To Not Annoy Allison Deardorff
In this month’s episode of Stable Minded, we sit down with Allison Deardorff—author of How To Not Annoy The Judge—for a candid, funny, and refreshingly honest conversation. From moving her business across the country every six months to tackling some of the horse industry’s biggest challenges, Allison brings both insight and edge. As an American Saddlebred Horse & Breeders Association board member, she’s helping shape the future of the sport—and yes, even stirring up a little online drama with her friend Mary Orr along the way.
28 Feb 2026
Carson Kressley: A Showcase of Classic Equestrian Style
Before the red carpets, runways, and morning shows, Carson Kressley was a kid growing up in the horse world—and in this latest episode of Stable Minded, Carson joins us to reflect on how a lifelong love of horses shaped his beginnings, opened doors to a career with Ralph Lauren, and continues to ground and balance his life today. With his signature wit and candor, Carson shares why the joy, discipline, and perspective he learned at the barn still guide him—whether he’s at the Rose Bowl Parade, on a national talk show, or back home with friends and horses. A wicked sense of humor, a few strong opinions, and zero hesitation about sharing either—this is one conversation you won’t want to miss.
31 Jan 2026
Master Class With Mary Orr
Our horse show community is shaped by people who lead, give back, and aren’t afraid to speak honestly about where we’ve been…and where we’re going. Mary Orr is one of those people. In this month episode of Stable Minded, Mary chats about everything from her roots in Northern California to winning the Three-Gaited Stake at Louisville, Mary’s path reflects both grit and growth. As a trainer, business owner, breeder, clinician, and writer, she brings a rare, big-picture perspective to our industry. She’s also helped raise nearly $150,000 for William Woods University through the High Caliber Hot Shots “fun” show with serious impact. She now sets her sights to on thoughtful conversations about sustainability and the future of horse shows. Candid, insightful, and deeply invested in our sport, this interview with Mary Orr is one you don’t want to miss.
31 Dec 2025
Answering The Call With Smith Lilly
Smith Lilly discusses his career in the show horse world, his leadership roles in UPHA and ASHBA, and his decision to retire from training in an interview with Bob Griffin and Gabby Greco.
25 Nov 2025
Building What Matters With Kayce Bell
Kayce Bell recounts her entry into horse shows through her daughter's passion, emphasizing community, teamwork, and strategic planning within the equestrian industry in this interview.
1 Oct 2025
Path To Innovation With Donna Pettry-Smith
Donna Pettry-Smith shares her journey in the show horse world, discussing the evolution of competitions and the importance of embracing change for aspiring equestrians in this interview.
13 Aug 2025
Mindset In Motion 2 With Betty Kregor
Sports coach Betty Kregor shares four mini sports coaching sessions with hosts Gabby Greco and Bob Griffin, offering equestrian competitors insights to refine their mental game.
22 Jul 2025
Building Better Riders With Lisa Hillmer
Lisa Hillmer shares her experiences as a riding instructor, discusses the challenges in the horse business, and emphasizes building community around equestrianism in an interview with Gabby and Bob.
19 Jun 2025
Riding Strategy With Isabelle Fischer
Isabelle Fischer discusses her journey through equitation, highlighting adaptability and mindfulness in training, while Gabby and Bob explore the balance between personal growth and equestrian commitments in this interview.
13 May 2025
Mindset In Motion With Betty Kregor
Betty Kregor shares her journey from a talented golfer to an equine sports performance coach, emphasizing the importance of the mental game in sports. She discusses her experiences in coaching various age groups, the significance of self-awareness, and how to manage anxiety in performance settings. Kregor also highlights the impact of social media on young athletes and offers practical tools for improving focus and performance.
3 Apr 2025
Jolene Galvin-Yerkie
In this conversation, Jolene shares her lifelong journey with horses, from her childhood beginnings to her professional career as an instructor and judge. She discusses the importance of mentorship, community involvement, and the challenges of balancing work and family life. Jolene emphasizes the need for personal success definitions beyond competition and highlights the significance of educating clients about the equine industry. The conversation also touches on strategies for growing the industry and fostering a supportive environment for both instructors and riders.
4 Mar 2025
Gabby Greco
In this conversation, Gabby Greco shares her journey from a young horse enthusiast to a professional trainer and instructor. She discusses her early memories of riding, the transition to working in the equestrian field, and her teaching philosophy. Gabby emphasizes the importance of fostering a supportive barn culture, managing expectations in competitive environments, and the impact of horses on personal development. She also touches on the challenges of burnout, the significance of youth involvement in the equestrian community, and her aspirations for the future.
3 Mar 2025
Why We Started A Podcast
Summary
In this episode, Robert Griffin and Gabby Greco discuss the motivations behind creating their podcast for IASPHA. They explore the importance of providing a resource for the community, sharing experiences, and navigating challenges together. The conversation emphasizes the need for growth in the industry and the value of open dialogue to foster support and collaboration.
Who has been a guest on Stable Minded Podcast
Names identified in recent episode analyses. Showing up to five guests.
Smith Lilly
Kayce Bell
Donna Pettry-Smith
Betty Kregor
Lisa Hillmer
Reach and audience
Public platform figures. Ratings count people who left a rating, not total listeners.
YouTube views
1,958
Score snapshot 15 Sept 2025
Apple Podcasts (US)
5.0 / 5
17 ratings
Spotify
5.0 / 5
4 ratings
Podcast Authority Score: 40 / 100
A composite of feed quality, social presence, YouTube performance and engagement. Read the methodology.
Quality
33
Social presence
0
YouTube
68
Engagement
51
Contact Stable Minded Podcast
Guest appearances
Books guests
Based on episode analysis; this does not confirm that the show is currently accepting guests.
Questions about Stable Minded Podcast
Who hosts Stable Minded Podcast?
Bob and Bob Griffin and Gabby and Gabby Greco host the show. Published by IASPHA.
How often do new episodes come out?
The show publishes monthly, based on its RSS feed.
Does Stable Minded Podcast take guests?
Yes. Guests have been identified in episode analyses.
Host of Stable Minded Podcast?
Claim your podcast to manage its listing and keep your show details accurate.
Pod Engine is an independent podcast discovery and analytics service and is not affiliated with or endorsed by this podcast. Artwork and show content belong to their owners. Full legal notice.
Explore this show Podcast research with Pod Engine
