Unlocking Trillions in RWAs: Phil Fogel Reveals Cork Protocol's Plan
Phil Fogel, CEO of Cork Protocol, joins to discuss building on-chain risk infrastructure. He explains why DeFi needs tools like fully collateralized credit default swaps to transfer risk explicitly. Institutions require risk control and transparent pricing, not just high yields. The conversation covers how Cork could have impacted stablecoin depegs like Terra and USDC by providing programmable hedges. Finally, Phil highlights their upcoming pilot with Avantgarde, focusing on making real-world assets (RWAs) loopable through secure, risk-adjusted liquidity markets.Stable Stories is a podcast series exploring the behind-the-scenes stories of the builders, operators, and pioneers shaping the stablecoin economy.
Eco: https://eco.comEco on X: https://x.com/ecoCork Protocol: https://www.cork.tech/Phil on X: https://x.com/Philfog
18 Feb 2026
Privacy Is Not Just For Cypherpunks: Stable Stories with Horizen Labs
Zain Cheng, CTO of Horizen Labs, joins Stable Stories to discuss the intersection of AI agents, privacy, and stablecoins. A former Federal Reserve engineer turned crypto builder, Zain explains how Horizen is pivoting from a privacy L1 to a modular Layer 3 on Base. We dive into the "Agentic Economy"—where AI agents hold wallets and transact without bank accounts—and how ZKVerify provides the proof layer they need. Zain also covers Trusted Execution Environments (TEEs) as the bridge for institutional compliance and the roadmap to fully cryptographic privacy.Stable Stories is a podcast series exploring the behind-the-scenes stories of the builders, operators, and pioneers shaping the stablecoin economy.
Eco: https://eco.comEco on X: https://x.com/ecoHorizen Labs: https://horizenlabs.io/ZkVerify: https://zkverify.io/Zain on X: https://x.com/zainlabs?lang=en
9 Feb 2026
The Valuation Arbitrage: Why We Stopped Investing in the US and focused on Emerging Markets. | Gideon Greaves, Managing Partner Lisk Ventures
Gideon Greaves, Managing Partner at Lisk Ventures, joins Stable Stories to discuss why the future of Web3 adoption lies in emerging markets. Gideon shares his journey from bootstrapping a food-tech startup in South Africa to leading a $20 million Web3 fund. He explains Lisk’s pivot to an Ethereum Layer 2, the massive valuation arbitrage opportunities in African tech, and why "boring" use cases like verifying land titles are revolutionary in Nigeria. We also explore the inevitable shift of governments moving on-chain and Lisk’s new partnEco: https://eco.comEco on X: https://x.com/ecoLisk: https://lisk.com/Gideon On X: https://x.com/gideongreavesership with the United Nations to accelerate industrial blockchain adoption.Stable Stories is a podcast series exploring the behind-the-scenes stories of the builders, operators, and pioneers shaping the stablecoin economy.
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