A Podcast about Then and Now featuring Dr. Shannon Swilley & the Rev. Robert Bushey, Jr. Whenever we discover what history has to offer it grounds us. We appreciate the opportunity to be connected to all that has come before us and all that will follow. We want this podcast to serve as a model for connecting the dots backwards as a means to bringing light and understanding to our current conversations about race and racial identity in America.
This episode examines the recent assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk through the lens of equity, diversity and inclusion. Whatever his legacy may be, we denounce political violence and his murder earlier this month. We explore how communities committed to equity and inclusion may respond to this tragedy even when his views may have challenged those very principles.
22 Aug 2025
The Memphis Five and the National Civil Rights Museum
In this episode, we were joined by three Racial Healing Ambassadors, Soyini Verrett, Deirdre Kennedy & the Rev. Kelly Perotti who reflected on their experiences after recently visiting the National Civil Rights Museum in Memphis, Tennessee. Our guests along with our producer, Ms. Shemara Fontes and Rev. Bushey spent the day in Memphis recently visiting the museum, the remains of Clayborn Temple, and the I Am A Man Plaza. Our trained Racial Healing Ambassadors serve our local community to ...
29 Jun 2025
A Conversation about Christian Nationalism
This episode explores the emergence of Christian Nationalism and its implications for inclusivity in America, highlighting potential societal impacts in an interview.
15 Jun 2025
White Male Supremacy and the Empire with Rev. Dr. Beverly Dale Part 2
Rev. Dr. Beverly Dale discusses the historical patterns of White Male Supremacy and its ongoing impact on diversity, equity, and inclusion in the United States in an interview with Rev. Bushey and Dr. Swilley.
1 Jun 2025
White Male Supremacy and the Empire with Rev. Dr. Beverly Dale Part 1
Rev. Dr. Beverly Dale discusses the historical patterns of White Male Supremacy and its ongoing impact on diversity, equity, and inclusion in the United States in an interview with Rev. Bushey and Dr. Swilley.
15 May 2025
Culturally Responsive Teaching
Dr. Swilley and Rev. Bushey examine Culturally Responsive Teaching and its relevance in today's education system amidst anti-DEI initiatives, offering insights from Dr. Swilley's dissertation; this is an interview.
1 May 2025
How Broken Systems Perpetuate Racism
Dr. Swilley and Rev. Bushey analyze the four levels of racism and discuss how broken systems perpetuate systemic racism, using personal experiences to illustrate the role of fear in hindering progress; this is a discussion.
1 Feb 2025
Exploring the Intersection of Racism and Indigenous Peoples
Dr. Swilley and Rev. Bushey explore the intersection of racism and indigenous peoples, highlighting their dishonor and oppression by white supremacy as the first resisters in America in this interview.
29 Jan 2025
Settler Colonialism, Resistance and Peyote Politics with Dr. Lisa Barnett
Dr. Lisa Barnett examines the ongoing impact of settler colonialism on Native Americans, exploring resistance strategies and the significance of peyote politics in this interview.
14 Feb 2023
Saying the Quiet Part Out Loud with Dr Cynthia Taylor
Dr. Cynthia Taylor discusses the importance of cultural competence and sensitivity, drawing from her work with Project SUN and Olivet Nazarene University in an interview with Robert and Shannon.
23 Jan 2022
A History of Trauma on Black Bodies and White Body Supremacy
This episode explores the historical patterns of trauma inflicted on Black bodies due to white body supremacy within American systems, drawing inspiration from literature on racialized trauma.
28 Oct 2021
Our Stories of Racial Healing
The hosts share personal stories of racial identity and reconciliation, modeling a conversation about racial healing.
26 Aug 2021
Building Blocks for Structural Racism
Shannon Swilley and Robert Bushey examine 20th-century segregation, revealing how historical divisions in housing and education shape modern racial equity discussions in this interview.
20 Apr 2021
A History of Racial Segregation
This episode explores the history of racial segregation, examining Reconstruction's impact and its connection to the Civil Rights Movement, Southern Poverty Law Center, and Black Lives Matter, revealing the roots of ongoing racial issues.
24 Mar 2021
A History of Racial Trauma
This episode examines the historical and ongoing racial trauma experienced by African Americans, exploring its profound impact on contemporary dialogues about race.
2 Mar 2021
A History of Racial Identity
This episode explores the historical origins of racial identities, revealing how they were constructed to justify the dehumanization of non-European people and obscure pre-oppression histories.
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