Suite Independence | Building a Thriving Beauty Business

About Suite Independence | Building a Thriving Beauty Business

Welcome to Suite Independence, the podcast designed exclusively for established beauty professionals ready to transform their careers and build the salon business of their dreams. Hosted by industry veteran Kristin Kienzle, founder of Utopia Modern Salon Suites, this show is your essential guide to thriving independently in the beauty world. Kristin, with over 34 years of experience, understands the unique challenges and incredible opportunities you face. She created Utopia to be a supportive, inspiring community where independent beauty professionals can flourish, and this podcast extends that mission directly to you. Forget the styling tips; we're diving deep into the business and personal development aspects that truly empower your success. Each episode offers insight, inspiration, and clarity to help you succeed and build your career in a healthy way. Whether you're looking to grow your client base, refine your business strategy, enhance your financial literacy, prioritize your well-being, or ultimately own your own salon, Kristin shares the wisdom and actionable advice you need. Join a community dedicated to empowering beauty professionals to reach their full potential, ensuring their businesses thrive and afford them the lifestyle they desire. Tune into Suite Independence and start building the vibrant career and fulfilling life you deserve.

Publisher

Kristin Kienzle

Category

arts · business

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

6 Oct 2025

Latest episode

14 Jul 2026

Latest episodes

17 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   14 Jul 2026

   Building Meadow Aesthetics: From Salon Suite to Med Spa with Mackenzie Gorman

   How do you go from a tiny salon suite to owning your dream space? I sat down with Mackenzie Gorman, owner of Meadow Aesthetics, to find out — and let me tell you, her journey from ER nurse to med spa owner is nothing short of inspiring. Mackenzie started her aesthetics journey almost by accident, after getting her own first Botox treatment sparked a whole new career path. She built her business from a single salon suite at Utopia into a full brick-and-mortar med spa, all while raising three kids, working part-time jobs, and figuring out the business side as she went. We talk about starting small, building the right team, creating a culture of trust with clients, and the lessons she learned the hard way during her build-out. Highlights Mackenzie's path from ER nurse to nurse practitioner to med spa owner Why she chose to start small in a salon suite rather than leasing a big space right away The moment she decided to leave her part-time urology job to go all-in on aesthetics How she built her team, including interviewing over 40 candidates to find the right fit Her approach to client honesty — telling people when they don't need a treatment The Kansas-inspired branding behind the Meadow name Lessons learned navigating a full build-out with no business background Her advice for anyone starting a business today: start small and stay true to your vision Chapters 0:00 – From Tenant to Triumph 1:14 – Meet Meadow Aesthetics 2:42 – Nursing to Injectables 4:59 – Starting Small at Utopia 7:07 – Going Full Time Leap 8:51 – Finding the Perfect Space 10:11 – Branding the Meadow Vibe 10:58 – Hiring and Team Growth 18:24 – Culture and Client Trust 22:01 – Build Out Lessons Learned 26:51 – Delegating to Scale 29:09 – Advice and Wrap Up Resources Mentioned Meadow Aesthetics website (http://www.meadowaesthetics.com/) Meadow Med Spa on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/meadowmedspa/) (@MeadowMedSpa) Meadow Med Spa and Aesthetics on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/p/Meadow-Med-Spa-Aesthetics-100087020967161/) Call or text: 316-302-4744 To learn more about Utopia Modern Salon Suites, visit our website at https://utopiamodernsalon.com/ (https://utopiamodernsalon.com/) or follow us on Instagram (http://instagram.com/utopiamodernsalon/), Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/utopiamodernsalonsuites) and LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/utopiamodernsalonsuites/)! If you enjoyed this conversation, don’t forget to subscribe and share with a friend!

2. 

   9 Jun 2026

   Building Successful Beauty Businesses with Coach Lee Gray

   Are you running a beauty business — or just doing hair? If you've ever introduced yourself by what you do instead of what you own, this conversation is for you. I sat down with my business coach, Lee Gray of ActionCOACH Business Coaching, inside one of our Utopia Modern Salon Suites locations, and we got into the real talk that every independent beauty professional needs to hear. From raising your prices (yes, really) to automating your follow-up and stepping fully into your identity as a CEO — this one is packed with actionable advice you can put to work this week. Highlights Why beauty professionals are business owners — even if they don't see themselves that way yet The mindset shift from "I do hair" to "I own a salon business" and why the words you use actually matter How to raise your prices incrementally so clients barely notice — and why you should be doing it every six months The power of adding value without adding cost: hot towels, snacks, on-time service, and the products already in your hands Why recommending retail isn't "selling" — it's service, and it directly increases your average sale How to stand out in a commodity market by communicating your training, your products, and your process The simple follow-up strategy that keeps your books full without spending a dime Using social media to showcase the experience — not just the result How to automate client retention using birthday acknowledgments, pre-booked appointments, and scheduling software Basic money habits every solopreneur needs: pay yourself first, set aside your taxes, and keep an operating account Chapters 0:00 — You Are A Business Owner 1:08 — Meet Coach Lee Gray 2:00 — Lee's Coaching Journey 4:20 — Who Coaching Fits Best 6:06 — Utopia Pros and Paths 6:58 — Lessons From a Success Story 8:37 — Nonnegotiables For Growth 11:07 — Maximize Income Fast 12:25 — Add Value and Sell Products 16:02 — Stand Out In a Commodity Market 18:15 — Follow Up Wins Clients 18:31 — Social Media Client Stories 19:39 — Automate Retention Systems 22:51 — Mindset of Ownership 26:07 — Look Like the CEO 27:20 — Keep Learning Business Skills 28:26 — Simple Money Habits 31:02 — Podcast, Book & Coaching Info Resources ActionCOACH Business Coaching (https://leegray.actioncoach.com/) — Lee Gray's business coaching firm The Second Act Business Owner podcast on Apple (https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/second-act-business-owner/id1867464956), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/2sWmol35x4pIGnwezeWvmX) and YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjLj12iuEPqyioBrGS-Vg3A) Lee Gray (direct): 316-640-2193 To learn more about Utopia Modern Salon Suites, visit our website at https://utopiamodernsalon.com/ (https://utopiamodernsalon.com/) or follow us on Instagram (http://instagram.com/utopiamodernsalon/), Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/utopiamodernsalonsuites) and LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/utopiamodernsalonsuites/)! If you enjoyed this conversation, don’t forget to subscribe and share with a friend!

3. 

   12 May 2026

   Beauty Beyond the Chair | Schrene Davis' Educational Adventure

   What does it take to build something you never planned for? Schrene Davis didn't set out to own three cosmetology schools — she was just trying to find a way out of a small town in Western Kansas. From a cheerleading scholarship and a cosmetology license she almost let expire, to becoming one of the early franchisees of Paul Mitchell Schools when there were fewer than five in existence, her journey is a masterclass in staying open to where life leads you. We talk about what it was really like building a school from the ground up, why the Springfield, Missouri model didn't translate to Wichita the way she expected, and how the industry — and the students walking through her doors — have fundamentally changed. We also get honest about the challenge of staying relevant as you get older in an industry that moves fast, and what it means to lead a school full of 18-year-olds who have a very different relationship with work than we did. HIGHLIGHTS Schrene describes her path as "accidental leadership" — no long-term vision, just a series of open doors she walked through Growing up in Holcomb, Kansas (graduating class of 39), she had no roadmap for college — until a boyfriend's football career took her to Missouri State She worked at a chain salon and booth rent while finishing her general education, and credits older mentors in those salons for her early growth Before Instagram, building clientele meant beating the streets and handing out business cards — and there's something to be said for that She became a Paul Mitchell sales rep and discovered the school concept at a national gathering — and was immediately convinced it was what the industry needed With only ~5 schools open at the time, she partnered with friends, secured a family investor, and opened in Springfield in 2005 Springfield became their most successful school — profitable from day one — but replicating that success in Wichita proved much harder The perception challenge in Wichita: Eric Fisher had already set a high bar, so the Paul Mitchell school wasn't the surprise it had been in Springfield The shift in how families view cosmetology school: student loan debt has changed everything — now parents are more likely to celebrate a one-year skilled trade path "If you want it, it's there" — she's direct with prospective students that success requires cultivating relationships, not waiting for clients to appear Gen Z students have reshaped how she thinks about fun, flexibility, and what motivates people to show up Student-run teams (student council, "Be Nice or Else" community team) give students a voice and keep them invested The aesthetics program is in year two and finding its groove after a messy year one of "discoveries" The emotional rollercoaster of being a service provider — riding the waves of a client's best and worst days — is something not everyone is built for, and she prepares students for that CHAPTERS 0:43 — Meet Schrene Davis 1:00 — Small Town Beginnings 2:12 — Choosing Cosmetology 3:10 — Early Lessons in School 4:03 — College and Moving 5:15 — Salon Life and Mentors 7:02 — Before Instagram Hustle 9:13 — From Stylist to Rep 10:46 — Discovering Paul Mitchell Schools 14:21 — Launching the First School 17:16 — Springfield Success Model 18:59 — Wichita Market Reality 21:13 — Cosmetology Culture Shift 22:34 — What It Takes to Succeed 24:00 — Fast Track Licensing 25:00 — Career Paths Beyond Cutting 26:30 — Spotting Student Potential 28:06 — Old School Cosmo Rules 29:26 — Teaching Color Confidence 31:04 — Staying Relevant Over Time 31:50 — Gen Z Work Life Shift 33:45 — Student-Led School Culture 37:11 — Launching Aesthetics Program 40:50 — Rollercoaster Behind the Chair 42:18 — How to Apply and Connect 43:22 — Final Thanks and Wrap RESOURCES MENTIONED Paul Mitchell The School Wichita (https://paulmitchell.edu/wichita) — paulimitchelltheschoolwichita.edu (find them on Instagram and TikTok @paulmitchelltheschoolwichita) FAFSA (https://studentaid.gov/h/apply-for-aid/fafsa) — Federal financial aid application mentioned as a resource many prospective students are unaware of To learn more about Utopia Modern Salon Suites, visit our website at https://utopiamodernsalon.com/ (https://utopiamodernsalon.com/) or follow us on Instagram (http://instagram.com/utopiamodernsalon/), Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/utopiamodernsalonsuites) and LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/utopiamodernsalonsuites/)! If you enjoyed this conversation, don’t forget to subscribe and share with a friend!

4. 

   13 Apr 2026

   Confidence and Self-Compassion with Emily Stevens

   What if the thing standing between you and the business — or life — you want isn't skill, experience, or money... but the way you talk to yourself? Confidence coach Emily Stevens joins me to unpack why so many talented women hold themselves back, how to stop "shoulding" all over yourself, and the small daily shifts that build real, lasting confidence from the inside out. HIGHLIGHTS • Stop "shoulding" yourself — it sets up expectations that aren't even yours • Confidence comes from self-trust, and self-trust is built through small daily actions • "Outsourcing your confidence" to loved ones is one of the biggest confidence killers • Self-compassion is the #1 indicator of self-esteem — science backs it up • One bad appointment doesn't equal a wrong career — that's catastrophic thinking • Confidence on camera is a skill, not a talent — you get better by doing it • When women build themselves up, they stop competing and start collaborating CHAPTERS 0:00 Meet Emily Stevens 1:10 Confidence for New Owners 1:59 Women and Confidence Myths 3:02 Stop Shoulding Yourself 4:31 Building Self Trust Fast 6:12 Action Creates Confidence 7:54 Support Systems and Doubts 9:43 Outsourcing Your Confidence 11:24 Self Compassion Practice 13:06 Confidence vs Self Esteem 14:32 Money Mindset and Success 18:24 Values and Core Compass 19:18 Confidence Earlier in Life 22:52 Daily Confidence Habits 23:53 Stop Catastrophic Thinking 24:36 Reframe With Self Compassion 26:09 Three For Me Framework 27:59 Collaboration Over Competition 31:15 You Are The Genius 34:43 Confidence On Camera 39:57 Closing And Contact Info RESOURCES • Laid Back Achievers — Emily's website with all courses, socials, and contact info: https://www.laidbackachievers.com (https://www.laidbackachievers.com/) To learn more about Utopia Modern Salon Suites, visit our website at https://utopiamodernsalon.com/ (https://utopiamodernsalon.com/) or follow us on Instagram (http://instagram.com/utopiamodernsalon/), Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/utopiamodernsalonsuites) and LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/utopiamodernsalonsuites/)! If you enjoyed this conversation, don’t forget to subscribe and share with a friend!

5. 

   23 Mar 2026

   Unlocking the Power of Branding and Marketing with Ashlyn and Avery

   What if great branding could actually do the selling for you — before a single client ever walks through your door? That's exactly what branding photographer Ashlyn Dettwiler (Ashlyn Faith Branding) and marketing strategist Avery Hittle (Set Theory Marketing) are doing for beauty professionals and small business owners in Wichita. These two high school friends turned business partners have built a one-stop shop that pairs high-end brand photography with strategic social media marketing — so you never have to wonder what to do with your photos again. We talk about why your social media presence is your first impression, what brands like Apple and Rodan + Fields do that you should be doing too, and why growing too fast (or charging too much too soon) can actually hurt you. Plus: the raw truth about the early years when the numbers just weren't adding up. Highlights Your Instagram page is your first impression — and if it's empty, unclear, or full of stock photos, you're losing clients before they ever meet you Great branding isn't just a logo: it's the world you invite your customers to be a part of (the Apple example is one you won't forget) Photography and marketing strategy working together creates seamless, consistent content — no more photos sitting unused on a hard drive The importance of niching down and being findable when someone searches for exactly what you offer Analytics aren't just numbers — they show you what's working, what isn't, and how to prove ROI on your marketing investment The average consumer has to see something seven times before they purchase — and strategy is what makes those seven impressions happen Why branding also attracts the right clients — and gives you permission to say no to the wrong ones Paying your dues: the honest truth about starting low and trusting the process Marketing as an investment, not an expense — and how to prove it with real ROI data Chapters 0:00 — Introduction: Branding & Marketing 0:57 — Ashlyn's Origin Story: From Senior Photos to Branding 2:16 — Avery's Journey: Nursing School to MBA to Marketing 3:33 — How They Teamed Up 4:04 — The Light Bulb Moment: Clients Weren't Using Their Photos 5:30 — Creating the One-Stop Shop Package 7:27 — Matching Visual Style to Your Brand 8:58 — Brand Worlds and the Apple Example 10:24 — Why Beauty Pros Should Invest in Branding 14:52 — Using Photos Beyond Instagram: Decor, Billboards, Pamphlets 17:44 — Consistency Builds Trust and Business Growth 20:10 — Patience, Pricing, and Paying Your Dues 23:17 — Branding for Beauty Professionals Specifically 24:41 — Standing Out on Social Media in a Saturated Market 27:02 — Niche Down and Get Found in Search 28:31 — Why Analytics Matter (and Most People Ignore Them) 31:41 — Ads, Repetition, and the Psychology of Buyer Behavior 33:23 — Showing Clients Their ROI and Growth 35:06 — Marketing as an Investment, Not an Expense 37:11 — Credibility, Education, and Why It Matters Who You Hire 39:43 — Their Collab Content Packages: 4-Month, 8-Month, and Year Options 41:58 — The New Done-For-You Full Social Media Management Option 44:28 — Partner Perks: Spray Tans, Hair, Makeup & More 46:20 — Wrap Up & How to Connect Resources & Mentions Ashlyn Faith Branding — Instagram: @ashlynfaithbranding (https://www.instagram.com/ashlynfaithbranding) | Website: https://ashlynfaithphotography.com/ (https://ashlynfaithphotography.com/) Set Theory Marketing — Instagram: @settheorymarketing (https://www.instagram.com/settheorymarketing) | Website: settheorymarketing.com (http://settheorymarketing.com) Meadow Med Spa (Mackenzie) — mentioned as a standout example of consistent, growth-focused branding: https://www.meadowaesthetics.com/ (https://www.meadowaesthetics.com/) Brows by B / Brow Battalion — referenced as an excellent example of recognizable, well-invested branding: https://shopbrowsbyb.com/ (https://shopbrowsbyb.com/) Brit Siva — beauty industry business coach: https://www.brittseva.com/ (https://www.brittseva.com/) To learn more about Utopia Modern Salon Suites, visit our website at https://utopiamodernsalon.com/ (https://utopiamodernsalon.com/) or follow us on Instagram (http://instagram.com/utopiamodernsalon/), Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/utopiamodernsalonsuites) and LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/utopiamodernsalonsuites/)! If you enjoyed this conversation, don’t forget to subscribe and share with a friend!

6. 

   9 Mar 2026

   Taking the Leap | From Finance to Aesthetics with Savannah Tasset

   What does it take to leave corporate stability for the uncertain path of entrepreneurship? Just a month ago, Savannah Tasset was a financial analyst at Koch Industries. Today, she's running her own aesthetics business at Utopia. Her story shows that sometimes the riskiest move is staying where you're unhappy—and that a finance degree can be your secret weapon in the beauty industry. Highlights Why Savannah graduated high school a year early to pursue aesthetics school at 17 How her finance degree from K State became an unexpected advantage for business ownership The moment she realized spreadsheets weren't her calling—and what pulled her back to skincare Setting up an LLC, choosing Image Skincare, and building Serenity Skin Studio from scratch Why dermaplaning is oddly satisfying (and her favorite service to perform) The difference between clients seeking results vs. relaxation—and why reading those cues matters Her advice for anyone stuck in a corporate job while dreaming of a passion career Chapters 0:00 Meet Savannah Tasset 1:11 Early Aesthetics Journey 2:57 Finance Path and Koch 5:47 Called Back to Skin 7:50 Starting From Scratch 8:33 Client Experience Philosophy 10:48 Building the Studio 14:24 LLC and Systems Setup 16:31 Why Dermaplaning Works 17:48 Ideal Client Results 20:06 Services Menu Breakdown 23:40 Consultations and Trust 27:28 Advice and Wrap Up Resources Mentioned Image Skincare (https://www.imageskincare.com/) The professional skincare product line Savannah uses in her studio Gloss Genius (https://www.glossgenius.com/) The booking and credit card processing system for her business Serenity Skin Studio on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/serenity_skin.studio/) Savannah's business Instagram Serenity Skin Studio on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61586687887549&mibextid=wwXIfr&rdid=mJ6W792pttQnkSoD&share_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fshare%2F1P9ZqQBM9i%2F%3Fmibextid%3DwwXIfr#) Savannah's business Facebook page To learn more about Utopia Modern Salon Suites, visit our website at https://utopiamodernsalon.com/ (https://utopiamodernsalon.com/) or follow us on Instagram (http://instagram.com/utopiamodernsalon/), Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/utopiamodernsalonsuites) and LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/utopiamodernsalonsuites/)! If you enjoyed this conversation, don’t forget to subscribe and share with a friend!

7. 

   23 Feb 2026

   Less is More | How Pam Edmondson Proves Bigger Isn't Always Better

   What if the secret to success in your beauty business isn't growing bigger, but getting smarter about who you serve? After 20 years in the aesthetics industry—including 11 years running a seven-room spa—I made the bold decision to close my doors and return to solo practice. The result? More clients, better income, and the freedom to take a 10-day sailing trip to the Virgin Islands. I'm sharing the mindset shifts, business strategies, and hard-won lessons that transformed my career from stressed-out spa owner to thriving solo esthetician and business coach. Highlights • Why I closed my successful seven-room spa to become a solo esthetician again • The unexpected result: gaining 28 new clients in my first year at Utopia • How identifying your ideal client changes everything (and why most estheticians skip this step) • The #1 obstacle holding beauty professionals back: fear and self-doubt • Why "bigger is better" is a myth that nearly burned me out • Client retention secrets: why keeping clients is easier than finding new ones • Competition anxiety: why you literally have no competition when you own your niche • The power of repetitive communication (and why clients need to hear things multiple times) • How I built a business that lets me take 3-week vacations without stress Chapters [0:49] Meet Pam Edmondson: A Journey in Aesthetics [2:47] Challenges and Changes Post-COVID [4:06] Transition to Utopia: A New Beginning [4:47] The Unexpected Growth and Benefits [7:42] Pam's Coaching Business: Helping Other Estheticians [10:05] Success Stories and Coaching Insights [15:28] Mindset and Overcoming Fear [18:28] Personal Freedom and Adventures [19:03] Returning from Vacation: The Importance of Communication [20:42] Defining Success in Business [21:12] The Reality of Building a Business [23:10] Transitioning from Spa Owner to Solo Practitioner [26:36] Embracing a Niche and Authentic Client Relationships [28:33] The Challenge of Client Retention [34:12] Overcoming Competition Anxiety [36:54] Conclusion and Contact Information Resources Mentioned • Evergreen Skin Studio - Pam's esthetics practice - https://www.evergreenskinstudio.com (https://www.evergreenskinstudio.com/) • Professional Coaching for Estheticians - Available through Pam's website at https://www.evergreenskinstudio.com (https://www.evergreenskinstudio.com/) or Instagram @evergreenskinstudio (https://www.instagram.com/evergreenskinstudio) To learn more about Utopia Modern Salon Suites, visit our website at https://utopiamodernsalon.com/ (https://utopiamodernsalon.com/) or follow us on Instagram (http://instagram.com/utopiamodernsalon/), Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/utopiamodernsalonsuites) and LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/utopiamodernsalonsuites/)! If you enjoyed this conversation, don’t forget to subscribe and share with a friend!

8. 

   9 Feb 2026

   From the NICU to a Private Suite | Balancing Life and Business with Brittany Thomas

   Would you make a major career change to create space for your family? Today's conversation takes you inside the journey of Brittany Thomas, owner of Rooted Wellness Company, as she shares her path from caring for premature babies to empowering women through hormone optimization and weight loss. We explore the changing landscape of healthcare, the challenges of starting an independent practice, and why functional medicine is revolutionizing how we approach wellness. Highlights • How 12 years in the NICU shaped Brittany's patient-centered approach to care • The personal fertility journey that deepened her connection to hormone therapy • Why she chose a suite at Utopia over traditional brick-and-mortar practice • The truth about hormone replacement therapy and dispelling the cancer myth • How GLP-1 medications are transforming lives beyond weight loss • Balancing business ownership with being present for family • The hidden time costs of running an independent healthcare practice • Why functional medicine focuses on root causes instead of just treating symptoms • Real patient success stories: from joint pain to biking with loved ones again • How COVID changed the way patients question and engage with healthcare Chapters [0:34] Welcome and Introduction to Brittany Thomas [0:48] Brittany's Background and Education [1:40] Journey to Rooted Wellness [2:49] Hormones and Personal Connection [3:37] Starting the Business at Utopia [4:02] Impact and Community at Utopia [5:08] Balancing Family and Business [7:28] Future Goals and Business Growth [8:21] Passion for Helping People [9:23] Services Offered by Rooted Wellness [11:08] Challenges and Changes in Healthcare [15:07] Revenue Generation and Insurance [17:15] Challenges with Insurance [18:32] Favorite Treatments and Success Stories [20:35] Balancing Business and Patient Care [25:38] Future Goals and Functional Medicine [28:57] Contact Information and Conclusion Resources • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/britt_rootedwellnessco/ (https://www.instagram.com/britt_rootedwellnessco/) • Facebook: Brittany Thomas Wellness (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61587030687737) • University of Alabama at Birmingham (UAB) - https://www.uab.edu (https://www.uab.edu/) • University of Kansas (KU) Kansas City - https://www.kumc.edu (https://www.kumc.edu/) To learn more about Utopia Modern Salon Suites, visit our website at https://utopiamodernsalon.com/ (https://utopiamodernsalon.com/) or follow us on Instagram (http://instagram.com/utopiamodernsalon/), Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/utopiamodernsalonsuites) and LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/utopiamodernsalonsuites/)! If you enjoyed this conversation, don’t forget to subscribe and share with a friend!

9. 

   26 Jan 2026

   Flexibility and Independence: Desiree Brogan’s Journey with Skin Clique

   What does it take to partner with a national chain while maintaining the freedom to work on your own terms? In this conversation with Desiree Brogan, a nurse practitioner at the Cranbrook Salon, we explore how she's created a successful aesthetic business by partnering with Skin Clique, who provides that support without sacrificing independence. Desiree shares her journey from working in hospitals to offering medical aesthetic services, the benefits of having a national brand behind her while maintaining a personalized boutique experience, and how she's built her practice through authentic relationships and word-of-mouth referrals. Whether you're considering a career in aesthetics or curious about what sets different providers apart, this episode offers valuable insights into building a sustainable practice that prioritizes both patient safety and provider flexibility. HIGHLIGHTS • How Skin Clique allows providers to work as independent contractors with flexible schedules while providing comprehensive support including charting systems, malpractice coverage, and product inventory • The importance of having 700+ colleagues to consult with for complex cases and ongoing support • Why moving from a shared space to her own studio increased revenue by 65% • The power of vulnerability on social media—sharing her GLP-1 weight loss journey inspired patients to seek help • How a $100 referral credit program drives word-of-mouth growth • The stepped training protocol that ensures providers build experience safely before advancing to more complex procedures • Why treating patients holistically (full face assessment, skincare routine, SPF protection) matters more than just addressing one concern • The value of being equipped to handle complications personally rather than handing patients off to another provider CHAPTERS [0:00] Introduction to Desiree Brogan [1:02] Desiree's Role and Services at Skin Clique [1:39] Working with Skin Clique: Flexibility and Independence [3:42] Training and Support at Skin Clique [7:14] Personalized Patient Care [12:19] Social Media and Patient Engagement [16:54] Referral Program and Events [18:17] Transition to a New Location [24:53] Safety and Training Protocols [26:33] Holistic Approach to Patient Care [28:02] Conclusion and Contact Information RESOURCES MENTIONED • Skin Clique - National aesthetic services company providing support for nurse practitioners, physician assistants, and doctors offering medical aesthetic treatments https://www.skinclique.com (https://www.skinclique.com/) • Contact Desiree at Utopia https://utopiamodernsalon.com/location/cranbrook/ (https://utopiamodernsalon.com/location/cranbrook/) • Desiree Brogan on Instagram - @desireebrogan_np https://www.instagram.com/desireebrogan_np (https://www.instagram.com/desireebrogan_np) • Desiree Brogan on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/desiree.brogan22 (https://www.facebook.com/desiree.brogan22) To learn more about Utopia Modern Salon Suites, visit our website at https://utopiamodernsalon.com/ (https://utopiamodernsalon.com/) or follow us on Instagram (http://instagram.com/utopiamodernsalon/), Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/utopiamodernsalonsuites) and LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/utopiamodernsalonsuites/)! If you enjoyed this conversation, don’t forget to subscribe and share with a friend!

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    12 Jan 2026

    Beyond Chaos | Building Sustainable Beauty Businesses in 2026

    Are you ready to make 2026 your most intentional and rewarding year yet? Discover how independent beauty professionals are redefining success, embracing clarity, and building businesses that truly support their lives. Today I’m going solo and sharing insights on simplifying your business, finding the right pace, and creating a sustainable, fulfilling career—without the overwhelm. Highlights The biggest lessons from 2025 and how they’re shaping the future of the beauty industry Why clarity and simplification are the new keys to growth How independent professionals are redefining “independence” to include support and structure The power of consistency and calm in business What it means to align your business with your life—not just your work The growing importance of community and environment for long-term satisfaction Practical encouragement for building a business that supports you, not the other way around Chapters 00:00 — Reflecting on 2025: Industry Growth and Intentionality 01:46 — Insights and Predictions 02:25 — Clarity and Simplification in Business Practices 04:21 — Redefining Independence: Support and Structure 05:13 — Carrying Forward Lessons into 2026 06:14 — The Power of Consistency and Calm 08:01 — Redefining Success: Predictability and Space 08:44 — Community and Environment: Keys to Professional Growth 09:53 — Final Thoughts: Building a Business That Supports You To learn more about Utopia Modern Salon Suites, visit our website at https://utopiamodernsalon.com/ (https://utopiamodernsalon.com/) or follow us on Instagram (http://instagram.com/utopiamodernsalon/), Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/utopiamodernsalonsuites) and LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/utopiamodernsalonsuites/)! If you enjoyed this conversation, don’t forget to subscribe and share with a friend!

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    29 Dec 2025

    The Trust Factor | How Hairstylist Suzie Cote Keeps Clients Coming Back

    How do you build a business that feels like home—for you and your clients? What if the secret to success is as simple (and as complex) as truly listening, embracing your quirks, and trusting the process of transformation? Discover how the journey from commission salon to independent suite can be both terrifying and exhilarating. Suzie Cote shares her story of personal and professional metamorphosis, the power of branding with authenticity, and the importance of building trust through deep listening and consultation. From butterfly-themed decor to the infamous Nicholas Cage magnet, this conversation explores the joys and challenges of creating a space where clients feel seen, heard, and valued—not just as customers, but as part of a community. Along the way, we unpack the emotional rollercoaster of the beauty industry, the art and science of color, and the rituals that help us leave work at work. Highlights The meaning behind Suzie’s butterfly theme and how it shapes her brand Navigating the leap from commission salon to independence Overcoming misconceptions and fears about going solo Innovations in client experience: from online booking to personalized amenities The art of consultation and why it’s the key to client satisfaction Building trust and long-term relationships with clients Embracing feedback (even the tough kind) as a recovering people pleaser The story behind the Nicholas Cage magnet and what it reveals about personal branding Balancing emotional energy and self-care in a people-focused business The value of community and finding your ideal clientele Chapters 00:00 — Introduction to Suite Independence 00:47 — Meet Suzie Cote: The Butterfly Theme 01:28 — The Concept of Emergence 03:44 — Transition to Independence 04:49 — Challenges and Misconceptions 06:06 — Innovations in Client Experience 09:31 — The Importance of Feedback 12:41 — Building Trust with Clients 17:01 — Catering Music to Audience Preferences 17:22 — The Nicholas Cage Magnet Story 20:23 — Managing Negative Feedback as a Recovering People Pleaser 21:59 — The Importance of Consultation in Hairdressing 24:44 — Transitioning to Independent Work 28:04 — Embracing Quirkiness and Personal Branding 28:27 — Building a Personalized Clientele 30:58 — Balancing Emotional Energy in the Salon 32:17 — Closing Thoughts & Gratitude Resources Mentioned https://www.suziecotehairartist.com/ (https://www.suziecotehairartist.com/) To learn more about Utopia Modern Salon Suites, visit our website at https://utopiamodernsalon.com/ (https://utopiamodernsalon.com/) or follow us on Instagram (http://instagram.com/utopiamodernsalon/), Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/utopiamodernsalonsuites) and LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/utopiamodernsalonsuites/)! If you enjoyed this conversation, don’t forget to subscribe and share with a friend!

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    15 Dec 2025

    Unexpected Absences: How to Protect Your Salon's Future with Molly Henthorn

    Are you prepared for the unexpected? Imagine if you suddenly couldn’t work—how would that impact your family, your business, and your peace of mind? Today, I sit down with Molly Henthorn from Empower Financial Group to uncover the real risks beauty professionals face and the practical ways to protect your income, your business, and your future. From personal stories to actionable advice, this conversation is packed with insights every independent professional should hear. Highlights The true impact of being unable to work—and how to plan for it How Empower Financial Group partners with beauty professionals to offer tailored benefits Real-life stories of professionals who faced unexpected challenges The surprising affordability of income protection and other benefits What to consider when choosing coverage as a self-employed professional How to adjust your protection as your business grows The unique value of working with a partner who understands your industry Chapters 00:00 — Introduction: The Unexpected Impact of Absence 00:10 — Meet Molly from Empower Financial Group 00:58 — Molly's Visit to the Salons 01:43 — The Importance of Benefits for Beauty Professionals 01:56 — Empower Financial Group's Offerings 02:22 — Income Protection: A Critical Component 02:39 — Real-Life Scenarios and Testimonials 03:44 — Understanding the Cost of Benefits 04:54 — The Value of Income Protection 05:00 — Empower's National Reach and Claims Support 07:49 — Customizing Coverage for Beauty Professionals 13:16 — Conclusion and Future Opportunities Resources Mentioned Empower Financial Group Website: (https://empowerfinancialgroup.com/)https://www.empowerfingroup.com/ (https://www.empowerfingroup.com/) To learn more about Utopia Modern Salon Suites, visit our website at https://utopiamodernsalon.com/ (https://utopiamodernsalon.com/) or follow us on Instagram (http://instagram.com/utopiamodernsalon/), Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/utopiamodernsalonsuites) and LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/utopiamodernsalonsuites/)! If you enjoyed this conversation, don’t forget to subscribe and share with a friend!

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    1 Dec 2025

    Brows and Branding with Brooke Bemis

    What does it really take to turn a passion for beauty into a thriving, in-demand business? How do you build a brand that clients recognize instantly—and keep them coming back for years? Today, I sit down with Brooke Bemis, owner of Brows by B and the Brow Battalion, to uncover the real story behind her journey from serving tables to becoming one of Wichita’s most sought-after brow artists and educators. We talk about the grit, the branding, the boundaries, and the bold decisions that shaped her career, plus the lessons she’s learned about building a business, a brand, and a life you love. Highlights Brooke’s journey from her first salon job to opening her own suite The moment she decided to niche down and focus exclusively on brows How branding (and a love of pink) set her apart in a crowded market The power of boundaries and policies in building a sustainable business Why she created a unique booking system—and how it keeps her schedule (and sanity) intact The leap from side hustles to full-time entrepreneur (and why it was terrifying) Launching a product line and professional tool collection for beauty pros The importance of community, networking, and training your “competition” How to handle burnout, set boundaries, and rediscover your “why” Advice for new estheticians and beauty professionals Chapters 00:00 — Welcome & Introduction to Brooke 01:07 — Brooke’s Early Career and Finding Her Niche 02:10 — Building Brows by B: The Brand and the Experience 03:33 — The Power of Branding (and Pink Everything) 05:44 — From Side Hustles to Full-Time: Making the Leap 09:19 — Creating Hype: Booking, Waitlists, and Client Experience 15:24 — Training, Mentorship, and Building Community 21:03 — Product Lines, Tools, and Teaching Clients 23:11 — Burnout, Boundaries, and Rediscovering Passion 26:05 — Advice for New Beauty Pros & Final Thoughts Resources Brows by B Website & Shop (https://shopbrowsbyb.com/) — Products, trainings, and more To learn more about Utopia Modern Salon Suites, visit our website at https://utopiamodernsalon.com/ (https://utopiamodernsalon.com/) or follow us on Instagram (http://instagram.com/utopiamodernsalon/), Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/utopiamodernsalonsuites) and LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/utopiamodernsalonsuites/)! If you enjoyed this conversation, don’t forget to subscribe and share with a friend!

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    17 Nov 2025

    Beauty & Taxes: Navigating Finances Confidently with Ryan Kittrell

    Do you think doing your taxes is more like a blowout, a brow wax, or a full Brazilian? For beauty professionals, financial management can sometimes feel simple and sometimes daunting and painful. Today, I sit down with Ryan Kittrell, CPA, to unravel the mysteries of bookkeeping, tax deductions, and financial habits that can make or break your business. Whether you’re a creative who dreads spreadsheets or a salon owner ready to level up, you’ll find practical advice, relatable stories, and a few laughs along the way. Let’s make taxes a little less scary—and maybe even a little fun. Highlights Why beauty professionals struggle with bookkeeping and how to overcome it The truth about financial advice on social media Simple systems to keep your business finances organized What expenses are really deductible (and which ones aren’t) The importance of regular financial check-ins How to avoid the “it’s a write-off” spending trap Success stories from beauty pros who got their finances on track When to hire a CPA or bookkeeper Fun comparison: Is doing your taxes a blowout, brow wax, or full Brazilian? Chapters 00:00 – Welcome & The Tax Service Analogy 00:47 – Meet Ryan Kittrell, CPA 01:34 – The Importance of Bookkeeping for Beauty Professionals 02:07 – Common Financial Challenges in the Beauty Industry 03:27 – Navigating Social Media Financial Advice 04:24 – Understanding Tax Deductions for Beauty Professionals 05:54 – Simple Financial Systems for Small Businesses 08:08 – When to Hire a CPA or Bookkeeper 09:22 – What Expenses Are Deductible? 13:20 – Avoiding Common Financial Pitfalls 17:51 – The Importance of Regular Financial Reviews 21:20 – Success Stories and Client Experiences 24:38 – The Value of Professional Financial Advice 25:18 – Scheduling Financial Check-Ins 26:27 – Fun Comparison: Taxes vs. Beauty Services 27:55 – How to Reach Ryan & Closing Resources Mentioned Kittrell and Klaskin CPAs: www.kittrellklaskincpa.com (http://www.kittrellklaskincpa.com/) Special thanks to Mikayla Wise, hairstylist at Tyler Point To learn more about Utopia Modern Salon Suites, visit our website at https://utopiamodernsalon.com/ (https://utopiamodernsalon.com/) or follow us on Instagram (http://instagram.com/utopiamodernsalon/), Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/utopiamodernsalonsuites) and LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/utopiamodernsalonsuites/)! If you enjoyed this conversation, don’t forget to subscribe and share with a friend!

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    3 Nov 2025

    Niche Mastery: Ashleigh Jones' Path to Beauty Business Success

    Are you ready to discover what it really takes to build a business you can step away from and still thrive? Join me as I sit down with Ashleigh Jones, a permanent makeup artist whose journey spans continents, motherhood, and the art of niching down. From building a sought-after salon in Australia to starting over in Wichita, Ashleigh shares the real stories behind her success, the challenges of letting go, and the power of community in business and life. Highlights Ashleigh’s path from part-time waxing to becoming a renowned eyebrow specialist in Australia The leap from solo entrepreneur to managing a team of seven How she built a business designed for independence—and actually stepped away Navigating the emotional and practical challenges of moving countries and running a business remotely The impact of motherhood and postnatal depression on her career and identity Rebuilding in the U.S.: why she chose to focus on herself and her craft The science and artistry behind cosmetic tattooing, lip blushing, and 3D areola tattooing Why trends don’t belong in permanent makeup—and how Ashleigh educates her clients Hilarious and surprising client stories (including fake IDs and eyebrow requests to the ears!) Advice for beauty professionals on finding and owning your niche Chapters 00:34 — Meet Ashleigh Jones: From Perth to Wichita 01:08 — Building a Business on Brows 02:41 — Stepping Back: Trust, Team, and Letting Go 04:29 — Moving to the U.S. & Maintaining a Business Abroad 05:21 — Motherhood, Postnatal Depression, and Business Transitions 07:00 — Reconnecting with the Business and Letting Go 10:41 — Starting Fresh: Focusing on Services in Wichita 13:19 — The Art and Science of Cosmetic Tattooing 16:07 — Trends, Client Education, and Natural Results 22:38 — Niche Down: Advice for Beauty Professionals 25:44 — Building Trust, Connection, and Community 28:00 — Closing Thoughts & Ashleigh’s Contact Info Resources Mentioned Ashleigh Jones — Permanent Makeup Artist https://bellesorelle.com.au/wichita-home (https://bellesorelle.com.au/wichita-home) To learn more about Utopia Modern Salon Suites, visit our website at https://utopiamodernsalon.com/ (https://utopiamodernsalon.com/) or follow us on Instagram (http://instagram.com/utopiamodernsalon/), Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/utopiamodernsalonsuites) and LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/utopiamodernsalonsuites/)! If you enjoyed this conversation, don’t forget to subscribe and share with a friend!

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    20 Oct 2025

    Building Dream Clientele: Hanna Johnson's Journey

    Are you ready to transform your client relationships and build the business—and life—you truly want? Discover how to create an exceptional client experience, set boundaries, and even let go of clients who aren’t the right fit, all while growing a thriving, independent business. Hanna Johnson, owner of The Wicker Chair Salon & Boutique, shares her journey from commission salons to successful suite ownership, revealing the lessons, challenges, and mindset shifts that shaped her career. Whether you’re a stylist, entrepreneur, or anyone seeking more freedom and fulfillment, this conversation is packed with actionable insights and real talk about what it takes to succeed on your own terms. Highlights Hanna’s path from beauty school to independent salon ownership The challenges and growth that come from early career experiences How losing a job unexpectedly led to independence and business success Building deep, loyal client relationships—and why privacy matters Creating a premium client experience that goes beyond great hair Balancing business growth with personal life and family Raising prices, setting boundaries, and attracting your dream clientele The importance of community and mentorship in an independent business model Navigating difficult client situations and knowing when to say goodbye Using AI tools for professional communication Why supporting others in your industry leads to collective success Chapters 0:00 — Introduction & Hanna’s background 0:52 — Meet Hanna Johnson: Journey in Hairdressing 1:41 — Starting Out: From School to Commission Salon 2:08 — Challenges and Growth in the Early Years 4:11 — The Turning Point: Going Independent 6:58 — Building Client Relationships 9:11 — Creating a Premium Client Experience 14:24 — Balancing Business and Personal Life 17:49 — Raising Prices and Client Retention 19:15 — Dealing with Difficult Clients 22:07 — Using AI for Professional Communication 24:29 — The Importance of Community Support 27:03 — Mentorship and Business Growth 30:28 — The Benefits of Independence 32:07 — Conclusion and Final Thoughts Resources Mentioned Paul Mitchell Schools Paul Mitchell Cosmetology Schools (https://paulmitchell.edu/) Wichita Chamber of Commerce Small Business of the Year Award Wichita Chamber of Commerce (https://www.wichitachamber.org/) To learn more about Utopia Modern Salon Suites, visit our website at https://utopiamodernsalon.com/ (https://utopiamodernsalon.com/) or follow us on Instagram (http://instagram.com/utopiamodernsalon/), Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/utopiamodernsalonsuites) and LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/utopiamodernsalonsuites/)! If you enjoyed this conversation, don’t forget to subscribe and share with a friend!

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    6 Oct 2025

    Mastery, Mentorship, and the Future of Beauty with Eric Fisher

    What does it really take to build a legacy in the beauty industry? On our first ever episode of Suite Independence, I share an incredible conversation with Eric Fisher, a true industry icon whose journey to founder of Eric Fisher Salons, Eric Fisher Academy, and Prosper U is filled with lessons on grit, passion, and the power of showing up. We explore how the definition of success has evolved, why relationships matter more than technical skills, and how to thrive in a changing world, whether you’re just starting out or looking to reignite your purpose. Highlights Eric Fisher’s unconventional path from music to beauty The influence of family and mentors on career choices How the beauty industry offers real economic opportunity and flexibility The importance of lifelong learning and constant self-improvement Building a culture of empathy, grit, and showing up The evolution of beauty standards and the impact of social media Creating memorable client experiences beyond technical skills The business of beauty: financial literacy, retail, and maximizing value Giving back, mentorship, and the legacy of teaching Insights on photography, creativity, and developing your own aesthetic Adapting to generational shifts and staying relevant as a leader Chapters 00:00 — Welcome & Introduction to Eric Fisher 00:58 — Eric’s Early Journey: From Drummer to Beauty School 03:19 — Lessons from London and Global Experience 05:21 — Opening the First Salon and Learning from Mentors 08:21 — The Power of Passion and Loving Your Work 10:30 — Changing Perceptions: Beauty School as a Career 13:55 — The Value of Trade Schools and Economic Mobility 16:41 — Lifelong Learning and the Birth of Prosper U 19:59 — Building Habits, Practicing Excellence, and Showing Up 24:24 — Grit, Motivation, and the Challenges Facing Young Professionals 28:34 — Empathy, Mentorship, and Individualized Teaching 32:21 — Relationship Skills, Scripts, and Business Building 36:47 — Maximizing Value: Retail, Financial Planning, and Average Ticket 41:04 — The Experience Economy: Creating Memorable Client Moments 46:53 — The Role of Money, Success, and Defining Your Best 50:51 — Photography, Creativity, and Changing Beauty Standards 54:09 — Giving Back, Mentorship, and the Power of Teaching 59:58 — What’s Next: Growth, Legacy, and Lifelong Learning 1:01:06 — Closing Thoughts & Appreciation Resources Mentioned Eric Fisher Academy (https://ericfisheracademy.com/) Prosper U (https://myprosperu.com/) Eric Fisher Instagram (Hair) (https://www.instagram.com/ericfisherhair/) Eric Fisher Instagram (Photography) (https://www.instagram.com/ericfisherphotos/) Books: Atomic Habits by James Clear (https://jamesclear.com/atomic-habits) The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz (https://www.amazon.com/Four-Agreements-Practical-Personal-Freedom/dp/1878424319) The Anxious Generation by Jonathan Haidt (https://www.thecoddling.com/anxious-generation) A Circle of Creativity by Rick Rubin (https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/735964/the-creative-act-by-rick-rubin/) The Experience Economy by B. Joseph Pine II & James H. Gilmore (https://www.amazon.com/Experience-Economy-Updated-Joseph-Pine/dp/1633697975) Unreasonable Hospitality by Will Guidara (https://www.unreasonablehospitality.com/) If you enjoyed this conversation, don’t forget to subscribe and share with a friend!

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