Welcome to Talentless đ, the podcast thatâs all HR, all talent, and zero fluffâthe official show for recruiters, by recruiters! If youâre in the people business, this is your one-stop shop for everything that matters. Hosted Industry Leaders Ashley King and Desiree Goldey, weâre here to dig into the heart of what makes workplaces tick (and sometimes, blow up). From talent acquisition tips that actually work to the real talk on DEI and workforce trauma reshaping our industry, weâre not afraid to get into the messy, the meaningful, and the downright motivating. Buckle upâthis is where you become the best in the business.

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Welcome to Talentless đ, the podcast thatâs all HR, all talent, and zero fluffâthe official show for recruiters, by recruiters! If youâre in the people business, this is your one-stop shop for everything that matters. Hosted Industry Leaders Ashley King and Desiree Goldey, weâre here to dig into the heart of what makes workplaces tick (and sometimes, blow up). From talent acquisition tips that actually work to the real talk on DEI and workforce trauma reshaping our industry, weâre not afraid to get into the messy, the meaningful, and the downright motivating. Buckle upâthis is where you become the best in the business.
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Recent Episodes

June 17, 2026
Empathy Is Not Soft. It's a Damn Strategy. (with Dr. Melissa Robinson-Winemiller)
Empathy is the most overused word in leadership right now. Everyone says it. Almost nobody does it. This week, Des and Ashley sit down with Dr. Melissa Robinson-Winemiller , TEDx speaker, international bestselling author of The Empathic Leader, host of The Empathic Leader podcast, and the founder of EQ via Empathy. Two doctorates, an MBA, a master's in data analytics, and a personal story that turned losing a career into a mission. She came armed with research, receipts, and the data point that stopped Ashley mid-sentence: there are 43 distinct types of empathy â and most leaders are only using one of them (badly). This one isn't about feelings. It's about strategy. Get in. What You'll Learn The 43 types of empathy and why "feeling what someone feels" is only 1/43rd of it Why self-empathy is the foundation every leader skips (and the 35% leadership burnout rate it creates) Niceness vs. kindness why one is gift wrap and the other is the real work Dark empathy how psychopaths, narcissists, and Machiavellians use cognitive empathy as a manipulation tool (and how to spot it) Where the hiring process is the LEAST empathic experience companies offer Why performance reviews are quietly robbing your team of growth How to handle layoffs and terminations without leaving wreckage Whether AI has empathy (spoiler: no, and the new term we coined for what it does have) Where to Find Dr. Melissa LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dr-melissa-a-robinson-winemiller Book: The Empathic Leader â Amazon (paperback + Audible, narrated by Dr. Melissa herself) YouTube: @The.Empathic.Leader Podcast: The Empathic Leader Podcast (everywhere you listen)

June 3, 2026
Compensation isn't a math problem. It's a truth-telling problem.
This week, Des and Ashley sit down with David Turetsky with 35+ years in compensation, U.S. patent holder on performance-driven pay tech, former VP at ADP, and the brain behind HR Data Labs. He's seen every comp shortcut, every salary band shortcut, and every excuse HR has ever used to underpay someone. And he's not interested in being polite about any of it. If you're a recruiter who freezes up when comp comes into the conversation, this episode is for you. If you're an HR leader who's been quietly recycling the same broken pay practices for a decade, this one is especially for you.

May 22, 2026
Lori Golden : Early Career Hiring: What is different?
Early career hiring didnât suddenly âbreak.â Companies changed the rules. In this episode of Talentless, Desiree Goldey, Ashley King, and Lori Golden unpack why the hiring market feels so disconnected for Gen Z candidates, recruiters, and employers alike, and why companies quietly pulled back from investing in early career talent. Lori brings over 27 years of recruiting experience across agency, startup, and corporate environments to a conversation that goes far beyond campus recruiting. Together, the team explores how hiring expectations shifted after the pandemic, why âentry-levelâ jobs now demand years of experience, and how AI, social media, and modern work culture are reshaping the future of employment. The conversation dives into: Why companies reduced internship and early career hiring programs How âentry-levelâ became â2â3 years requiredâ The disconnect between Gen Z and corporate work culture Why recruiters need more transparency in hiring processes How AI is amplifying distrust in recruiting The role social media plays in burnout and workplace expectations Why recruiters are struggling to balance efficiency with empathy The hidden problem with treating early career hiring as âcheap laborâ Why soft skills and adaptability matter more than ever How companies lost the long-term strategy around workforce development Lori also shares her perspective on what younger generations are actually asking for: fairness, honesty, mentorship, and a system that feels human again. If youâve been wondering why early career hiring feels harder than ever â this episode explains why. Companies didnât stop wanting young talent â they stopped wanting to train it. âEntry-levelâ hiring now often requires experience because organizations want to avoid investing in development. AI is exposing communication problems in recruiting, not solving them. Transparency matters more than automation in the hiring process. Gen Z isnât rejecting work â theyâre rejecting exploitation. Recruiters cannot build strong pipelines without trust. Soft skills, adaptability, and communication are becoming more valuable than technical credentials alone. The future of hiring requires mentorship, not just technology. âYou cannot build a future workforce while refusing to train future workers.â â Lori Golden âThe early career pipeline isnât broken. Companies just stopped investing in it.â â Lori Golden âIf you want to change the game, you still have to learn how to play it.â â Lori Golden âGen Z isnât rejecting work. Theyâre rejecting systems that feel exploitative.â â Talentless Podcast âWe automated communication, but not transparency.â â Lori Golden Connect with Lori Golden: LinkedIn: Lori Golden on LinkedIn Community: Rebel HR Early Career Program: Hire You
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