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Talk IP to me brings fresh conversations to the world of intellectual property. In each episode, we sit down with innovators, IP experts, founders, and legal minds to uncover real stories, lessons learned, and practical insights you can actually use. Our goal is simple: make IP feel human, practical, and accessible. New episodes on Spotify, Apple Podcast and YouTube/PatentRenewal. LI: https://www.linkedin.com/company/patentrenewalcom
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May 26, 2026
<p>Massimo Sterpi is an Italian lawyer specializing in intellectual property, new technologies, and art law. He is a partner and Head of IP in Rome, has litigated over 250 IP cases across borders, and is also a passionate art collector.</p><p>In this episode, Massimo joins David Breitenbach, CCO at <a href="http://patentrenewal.com/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">PatentRenewal.com</a>, to explore how emerging technologies are changing art, copyright, and the wider IP landscape.</p><p>They discuss why artists often act as the “R&D department of humanity”, how AI-generated work challenges traditional ideas of creativity, why data may now be one of the most important assets in IP, and why lawyers need to become more flexible, industry-focused advisors in a world where technology moves faster than legislation.</p><p><br /></p><p>In this episode, you’ll learn:</p><p>◼️ Why artists are often the first to experiment with emerging technologies</p><p>◼️ Why AI may be “recreative” rather than truly creative</p><p>◼️ How copyright, patents, trademarks, and trade secrets are being reshaped by digital technology</p><p>◼️ Why data is becoming one of the most valuable assets in the AI economy</p><p>◼️ What artists should consider before using AI tools in their work</p><p>◼️ Why AI training data raises major copyright and fairness questions</p><p>◼️ How the Brussels Effect can turn EU regulation into a global standard</p><p>◼️ Why trade secrets are becoming more important for software and algorithm protection</p><p>◼️ Why future IP lawyers may need to become industry specialists, not just legal specialists</p><p><br /></p><p>00:00 Intro</p><p>01:08 Why artists are the R&D department of humanity</p><p>02:33 Art as a testing ground for new technology</p><p>03:10 NFTs, neural networks, and early AI art</p><p>04:10 Why AI mimics rather than truly creates</p><p>05:39 Why law moves slower than technology</p><p>06:42 IP territoriality in a borderless digital world</p><p>07:54 Why copyright and trade secrets are gaining importance</p><p>08:14 Why data is the new IP</p><p>09:22 How IP work is shifting toward technology law</p><p>09:48 Neural implants and the rise of neuro rights</p><p>11:04 Can artists use AI to support their work?</p><p>12:00 AI tools, terms, and copyright risk</p><p>13:35 The Church of Prompts and AI-assisted art</p><p>14:20 AI agents and humans as physical executors</p><p>15:43 AI companies, training data, and artist infringement</p><p>16:41 Should creators be paid when their work trains AI?</p><p>18:06 Territorial issues in global copyright enforcement</p><p>19:31 The Brussels Effect and global AI regulation</p><p>21:47 Why algorithms are often protected as trade secrets</p><p>22:42 Trade secret disputes and employee movement</p><p>23:36 Why lawyers need to become more flexible</p><p>24:08 From legal silos to industry expertise</p><p>24:37 How to become an expert in a specific field</p><p>26:15 Rapid fire IP Confessions</p><p>26:22 Patents or copyright?</p><p>26:34 A client habit Massimo loves to see</p><p>27:10 Advice for software companies protecting trade secrets</p><p>28:06 What patent offices could do better</p><p>28:39 The artwork Massimo would love to own</p><p>29:03 Final thoughts: stay close to the next new thing</p><p><br /></p><p>Follow Massimo:</p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/massimo-sterpi/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/massimo-sterpi/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Join <a href="http://patentrenewal.com/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">PatentRenewal.com</a>’s circle on LinkedIn:</p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/patentrenewalcom" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/patentrenewalcom</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Follow David:</p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-breitenbach/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-breitenbach/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>GET IN TOUCH</p><p>Our website: <a href="https://patentrenewal.com/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://patentrenewal.com/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>About us</p><p>At <a href="http://patentrenewal.com/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">PatentRenewal.com</a>, we believe IP renewals should be simple, transparent, and stress-free. We care about innovation and about making IP easier to understand and easier to use.</p><p>That’s why we created Talk IP to me, the podcast that brings fresh conversations to the world of intellectual property. In each episode, innovators, IP experts, founders, and legal minds share real stories, hard-won lessons, and practical insights you can actually apply in your work.</p><p>Our goal is simple: make IP feel human, practical, and accessible.</p>
April 16, 2026
<p>Carl Hamsten is a patent examiner, specialised in biotechnology at the Swedish Intellectual Property Office (PRV) and is also connected to PRV Consulting, which provides patent search services including novelty searches, FTOs, and validity searches.</p><p>In this episode, Carl joins David Breitenbach (CCO, <a href="http://patentrenewal.com/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">PatentRenewal.com</a>) to explain what patent examiners actually do, how inventors can prepare stronger patent applications, why novelty searches matter much earlier than most people think, and what Sweden gets right when it comes to innovation, research, and IP awareness.</p><p><br></p><p>In this episode, you’ll learn:</p><p>◼️ What a patent examiner actually does day to day</p><p>◼️ What PRV Consulting does - and the one thing it deliberately doesn't do</p><p>◼️ How to prepare a strong application before you even file</p><p>◼️ Why a novelty search is one of the most underused tools in an innovator's arsenal</p><p>◼️ How patent information can help with R&D, market research, and competitor mapping</p><p>◼️ What makes a patent application stronger from an examiner’s perspective</p><p>◼️ Why Sweden ranks #2 in WIPO's Global Innovation Index</p><p>◼️ What the "teacher's exemption" is and why it fuels Swedish life science</p><p>◼️ Why treating a patent as a checkbox is the most common mistake Carl sees</p><p><br></p><p>00:00 Intro</p><p>01:08 What Carl actually does as a patent examiner - and what PRV Consulting is</p><p>03:08 What happens when an application lands on Carl's desk</p><p>05:12 Why examiners want to grant strong patents - not just reject</p><p>06:27 How to prepare before filing - and why novelty searches matter early</p><p>09:03 How patent search results help R&D, strategy, and competitor mapping</p><p>11:27 The challenge of searching through 160 million patent documents</p><p>13:13 How PRV works with EPO tools and databases</p><p>14:13 Sweden as a country of innovation</p><p>16:31 The teacher's exemption and why it matters in Sweden</p><p>18:38 Biotech success stories and university spinouts</p><p>20:24 Why IP education should start earlier in universities</p><p>22:44 Novelty, inventiveness, and what applicants need to prove</p><p>24:49 Rapid fire: the best and worst parts of being a patent examiner</p><p>26:00 The IP myth Carl would retire forever</p><p>27:43 Why raising IP awareness earlier matters - and why publishing too early can hurt you</p><p>30:35 Should you start nationally or go straight to PCT/EPO?</p><p>33:01 Carl's final message: IP should always be on the table</p><p><br></p><p>Follow Carl</p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/carl-hamsten-3979451/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.linkedin.com/in/carl-hamsten-3979451/</a></p><p>PRV - Swedish Intellectual Property Office</p><p><a href="https://www.prv.se/en/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.prv.se/en/</a></p><p>PRV Consulting</p><p><a href="https://www.prv.se/en/prv-consulting/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.prv.se/en/prv-consulting/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Join <a href="http://patentrenewal.com/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">PatentRenewal.com</a>’s circle on LinkedIn:</p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/patentrenewalcom" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.linkedin.com/company/patentrenewalcom</a></p><p>Follow David:</p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-breitenbach/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-breitenbach/</a></p><p><br></p><p>GET IN TOUCH</p><p>Our website: <a href="https://patentrenewal.com/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://patentrenewal.com/</a></p><p><br></p><p>About us</p><p>At <a href="http://patentrenewal.com/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">PatentRenewal.com</a>, we believe IP renewals should be simple, transparent, and stress-free. We care about innovation and about making IP easier to understand and easier to use.</p><p>That’s why we created Talk IP to me, the podcast that brings fresh conversations to the world of intellectual property.</p><p>In each episode, innovators, IP experts, founders, and legal minds share real stories, hard-won lessons, and practical insights you can actually apply in your work.</p><p>Our goal is simple: make IP feel human, practical, and accessible.</p>
March 24, 2026
<p>András Jókúti is the Director of the Patent and Technology Law Division at WIPO (the World Intellectual Property Organization). Before joining WIPO in Geneva, András served as Director-General for Legal Affairs at the Hungarian Intellectual Property Office and worked across ministries and universities as an IP legal advisor.</p><p><br></p><p>In this episode, András joins David Breitenbach (CCO, PatentRenewal.com) to break down how WIPO actually works in practice - why the patent system is under real pressure from AI, what the global IP community is (and isn't) doing about it, and why Standard Essential Patents are quietly becoming one of the most contested areas in IP today.</p><p><br></p><p>In this episode, you’ll learn:</p><p>◼️ Why “IP is not a value in itself”, and what it’s actually for</p><p>◼️ WIPO’s four pillars: awareness, policy/soft law, global infrastructure (like PCT), and stakeholder empowerment</p><p>◼️ AI + patents in three angles: AI as part of the invention, AI-assisted invention, and AI used by patent offices</p><p>◼️ The real policy question behind “AI inventors”: how much human contribution should be required?</p><p>◼️ Why global AI “normative work” is still far away - and why guidance/benchmarks matter now</p><p>◼️ SEPs explained in plain language: standards, “essential” patents, and why FRAND disputes happen</p><p>◼️ What WIPO's mediation pledge means for SMEs in the IoT space</p><p><br></p><p>00:00 Intro</p><p>01:08 What WIPO does - the four pillars</p><p>03:36 WIPO as a "coach": advising member states without imposing solutions</p><p>07:32 When AI lands on the table: how WIPO navigates global tech disruption</p><p>09:19 Three angles of AI's impact on the patent system</p><p>13:05 How close is international AI legislation for IP?</p><p>15:27 AI and the developing world: widening or closing the gap?</p><p>17:57 Standard Essential Patents: why WIPO is now getting involved</p><p>20:00 What are SEPs? Standards, essentiality, and FRAND licensing explained</p><p>24:11 WIPO's SEP initiatives: transparency and the PatentScope database</p><p>26:30 The WIPO SEP mediation pledge for IoT SMEs</p><p>29:05 What a future with less SEP litigation looks like3</p><p>1:08 What makes András optimistic – and what quietly worries him</p><p>33:41 Rapid fire questions</p><p><br></p><p>Follow András:https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrasjokuti/</p><p>Join PatentRenewal.com’s circle on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/company/patentrenewalcom</p><p>Follow David:https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-breitenbach/</p><p><br></p><p>GET IN TOUCH</p><p>Our website: https://patentrenewal.com/</p><p><br></p><p>About us</p><p>At PatentRenewal.com, we believe IP renewals should be simple, transparent, and stress-free. We care about innovation and about making IP easier to understand and easier to use.That’s why we created Talk IP to me, the podcast that brings fresh conversations to the world of intellectual property. </p><p>In each episode, innovators, IP experts, founders, and legal minds share real stories, hard-won lessons, and practical insights you can actually apply in your work.Our goal is simple: make IP feel human, practical, and accessible.</p>
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Talk IP to me brings fresh conversations to the world of intellectual property. In each episode, we sit down with innovators, IP experts, founders, and legal minds to uncover real stories, lessons learned, and practical insights you can actually use. Our goal is simple: make IP feel human, practical, and accessible. New episodes on Spotify, Apple Podcast and YouTube/PatentRenewal.
LI: https://www.linkedin.com/company/patentrenewalcom
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