Welcome to 'Talking out Cloud' - your go-to podcast for all things cloud computing! Join us as we delve into the exciting world of cloud technology, discussing trends, insights, and expert tips to optimize your business in the cloud. Whether you're a seasoned IT professional or just starting your journey, tune in for engaging conversations, industry news, and actionable strategies to harness the power of the cloud. Get ready to elevate your understanding and maximize your potential with 'Talking out Cloud'!
Wesley and Gert-Jan explore the debated topic of value for Managed Service Providers, discussing how MSPs can become strategic partners by understanding customer needs in this season finale interview.
In this episode, we explore all things “as a service”:- What is Infrastructure as a Service (IaaS), Platform as a Service (PaaS), Serverless, and Software as a Service (SaaS)?- How do these models work and what are the benefits?- Key considerations for businesses when moving to the cloud.- Lift & shift vs modernisation, multi-tenancy, automation, and cost trade-offs.Whether you’re a cloud architect, consultant, or IT enthusiast, this episode gives you a practical understanding of the different service models and how to choose the right approach for your workloads.Episode 11 Timestamps:00:00 – Introduction & Welcome01:20 – IaaS explained: Control vs responsibility05:15 – Lift & shift scenarios & Azure Migrate08:50 – ASM vs ARM migration process12:40 – PaaS overview & benefits16:30 – Comparing IaaS vs PaaS in cost & maintenance19:45 – Serverless explained: Azure Functions & event-driven architecture23:10 – SaaS explained: Subscription model & customer experience26:00 – Containers: Combining flexibility & control28:00 – Key takeaways & conclusion
1 Dec 2025TRANSCRIPT
FinOps Explained: How to control Cloud Costs & Avoid Bill Shock | Azure Cost Management Tips
In this episode of Talking Out Cloud, we dive into FinOps — the cultural practice that combines financial accountability with operational responsibility in the cloud. 💸☁️We cover:- Why public clouds can be expensive- How FinOps helps organisations manage costs effectively- Best practices: reservations, savings plans, tagging, monitoring and Governance- Real examples of “bill shock” and how to avoid it- Tips for DevOps teams and organisations using AzureWhether you’re an IT manager, developer, or cloud professional, this episode provides practical insights to optimise cloud spending and ensure responsible use of Azure.Listen now to learn how to implement FinOps successfully in your organisation!Website: https://intercept.cloudLinkedIn Wesley Haakman: /wesleyhaakman/LinkedIn Gert-Jan Poffers: /gpoffers/
3 Nov 2025TRANSCRIPT
Azure Networking & Zero Trust Basics
In this video, we cover the key steps to design a secure and scalable Azure cloud environment. Learn why governance and tenant management come first, and how the zero trust principle is essential for network security. See how the hub-spoke model keeps your network safe and why direct spoke-to-spoke connections are a no-go.We also explore Azure networking troubleshooting, hybrid connectivity with VPN and ExpressRoute, and how to pick the right performance option for your needs.Perfect for Azure architects, IT pros, and cloud engineers looking to improve their environment.📌 Topics:- Tenant management & governance- Zero trust security- Hub-spoke architecture- Troubleshooting tools- Hybrid VPN & ExpressRoute- VPN Gateway vs Virtual WAN💡 Subscribe for more Azure tips! Like and comment your thoughts!
1 Oct 2025TRANSCRIPT
The Future of cloud management
In this episode, we dive deep into automation in Azure from using PowerShell and Azure CLI to exploring the future potential (and challenges) of AI agents in cloud management. Discover best practices, real-world examples, and thoughts on how automation is evolving the role of cloud professionals.Website: https://intercept.cloudLinkedIn Wesley Haakman: /wesleyhaakman/LinkedIn Gert-Jan Poffers: /gpoffers/
31 Aug 2025TRANSCRIPT
The Hidden cost of the Cloud: Is it really green?
Is the cloud really as green as we think?In this episode, we reveal the hidden environmental costs of cloud computing and what organisations can do to make their cloud truly sustainable. From massive data centers to the role of AI in optimising energy use, our experts dive deep into the realities behind the ‘green cloud’ promise."
If this episode helped you rethink cloud sustainability, hit like, subscribe, and click the bell icon for more deep dives into cloud innovation.Website: https://intercept.cloudLinkedIn Wesley Haakman: /wesleyhaakman/LinkedIn Gert-Jan Poffers: /gpoffers/
6 Aug 2025TRANSCRIPT
Stay Online: Disaster recovery tip
Host Wesley Haakman and Gert-Jan Poffers discuss disaster recovery strategies and AI automation to ensure cloud environment availability during unexpected incidents.
1 Jul 2025TRANSCRIPT
Azure Well-Architected Framework explained | Best practices & Architecture review
Industry experts discuss the Azure Well-Architected Framework, emphasizing regular cloud setup reviews to maintain a secure, stable, and manageable environment.
4 Jun 2025TRANSCRIPT
Hybrid Cloud vs Public Cloud: What to expect in 5 years
Industry experts Wesley Haakman and Gert-Jan Poffers examine the distinctions between hybrid and public cloud solutions, weighing cost, sustainability, and emerging trends for informed cloud strategy decisions.
Industry experts explore Kubernetes adoption challenges, focusing on the talent shortage and effective management, revealing how it transforms the cloud landscape in this interview episode.
27 Mar 2025TRANSCRIPT
What are Large Language Models (LLMs)? And why you should embrace AI & Co-Pilots
Industry experts Emile Verbunt and Deni Harrewijn define large language models, explore their impact on jobs, and discuss how businesses leverage AI to enhance productivity.
27 Feb 2025
Cloud Trends: AI, Gen AI, Security & SustainOps
Host Deni Harrewijn explores major Azure Cloud trends, including AI's transformative impact, the criticality of cloud security, and the rise of SustainOps, offering insights for businesses to stay competitive; this is an interview with Job Verhagen and Arian Geertsema.
1 Oct 2024TRANSCRIPT
Season Finale: Disaster Recovery, Automation, and Cloud Strategies | #6
Azure Consultants Simon Lee and Gert-Jan Poffers discuss disaster recovery strategies and AI-driven automation for cloud infrastructure, providing actionable tips to maintain business continuity in this interview episode.
3 Sept 2024TRANSCRIPT
Microsoft Fabric: from data chaos to clarity | Special guest from Microsoft
Microsoft expert discusses how Microsoft Fabric unifies data solutions, streamlines operations, and enhances data governance for businesses in this interview with ONNO VAN DER HORST, LEONOR SA, and DENI HARREWIJN.
13 Aug 2024TRANSCRIPT
Scale Your Business: How MSPs Transform IT Management #4
Marc Bosgoed explains how Managed Service Providers revolutionize business approaches to innovation and efficiency by handling fundamental tasks, ensuring top-notch service quality, and providing peace of mind in this interview.
9 Jul 2024TRANSCRIPT
Unlock the Power of Cloud Native – expert insights from Intercept's DevOps Leader #3
Head of DevOps Arian Geertsema explores the essentials of cloud native architecture, including microservices and container services, for modern application development in this interview.
18 Jun 2024TRANSCRIPT
Unleashing the future: the transformative power of generative AI #2
Wesley Haakman, Microsoft Azure MVP, explores the transformative power of generative AI, focusing on its practical applications across finance and healthcare, in an interview on the evolution of cloud technology.
7 May 2024TRANSCRIPT
Talking out Cloud!
Deni Harrewijn explores the exciting world of cloud technology, discussing trends, insights, and expert tips to optimize business in the digital realm.
6 May 2024TRANSCRIPT
Discover the strategic decisions that have propelled Intercept to the forefront of the cloud industry - Founders of Intercept #1
CEO Job Verhagen and CTO Rinie Huijgen discuss Intercept's strategic decisions and Microsoft Azure specialization with host Deni Harrewijn in this interview, revealing insights into cloud leadership and business growth.
Inside a recent episode
Season finale: what is True Value as an MSP?
Published 2 Feb 2026 · Transcript excerpt
[…] Like we have the knowledge, but keeping track of it, that costs a lot of time. Yeah. Especially in the time we are living, I guess, with all the new features and new resources coming up. So yeah. Yeah. I think if I was a customer or I was a developer or something like that, I only have knowledge about the product I'm creating. So as an MSP, as a consultant, I always, it's my primary. Yeah, I think it's my primary objective to keep in track of all the new technologies. So if a customer comes to me, okay, I don't know everything, but I can read myself in and stay up to date, I guess. So yeah, you need to stay up to date. […]
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