Teaching Evidence-Based Management

About Teaching Evidence-Based Management

The show is dedicated to sharing challenges, techniques, experiences and best practice when teaching evidence-based management to others (from under graduates through to executives). Hosted by CEBMa Fellow and 20 year change management veteran Karen Plum, each episode features experts in the field who have practical experience of teaching evidence-based management and bringing it to life!

Publisher

Center for Evidence-Based Management

Category

education

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

22 Nov 2023

Latest episode

24 Sept 2026

Latest episodes

14 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   24 Sept 2026

   What teachers wanted was each other

   Send us a message with your thoughts or reactions Teacher Exchange began with a question I found myself asking after talking to people who teach evidence-based management: what helps you keep going when teaching and championing EBM can sometimes feel difficult or lonely? I had one possible answer in mind — mentoring. But when I took the idea to Eric Barends, he suggested something characteristically evidence-based: why don't we ask the teachers? What we heard changed my thinking. There wasn't...

2. 

   24 Jun 2026

   What are we really teaching?

   Send us a message with your thoughts or reactions What are we really teaching when we teach evidence-based management? Teachers often hope their students leave with more than knowledge of concepts and frameworks. But how do we know whether learning has changed the way people approach problems, make decisions, and reason through uncertainty? And what do students carry into practice once the course has finished? This episode explores those questions through two pieces of research. The first exa...

3. 

   10 Mar 2026

   You’re not alone: the story of the evidence movement

   People working in evidence-based management can sometimes feel like they are swimming against the tide. But they are part of something much larger. In this episode we hear from science journalist Helen Pearson about her new book Beyond Belief: How Evidence Shows What Really Works. The conversation steps back from evidence-based management to look at the much wider evidence movement that has been unfolding across disciplines over the past few decades. From medicine and social policy to policin...

4. 

   28 Jan 2026

   Working with uncertainty: a conversation on evidence-based management

   Working with evidence-based management can be uncomfortable. It asks people to sit with uncertainty rather than reach for certainty — something many of us are rewarded for in organisational life. This conversation explores what that discomfort looks like in practice, and how uncertainty shows up when people engage seriously with evidence — whether they are managers making decisions, students learning to apply evidence, or educators supporting that learning. The discussion ranges across resear...

5. 

   19 Aug 2025

   Ask the experts

   This episode was recorded live with three evidence-based management experts, Denise Rousseau, Rob Briner and Eric Barends, answering and discussing questions sent in by teachers and students of the subject. During the disucssion, we touched on many aspects of evidence-based management, including: Starting with basic principles rather than complex frameworks makes evidence-based management accessible to busy professionalsProblem identification is the most critical and often overl...

6. 

   24 Apr 2025

   Teaching the art of better decision making: How Universities embed evidence-based management

   The gap between management research and practice remains stubbornly wide, but a growing movement of dedicated educators is working to change that by embedding evidence-based management into university curricula. This episode explores their journeys, challenges, and successes. We hear from three university teachers who have pioneered different approaches to teaching evidence-based management - from introducing elements into existing courses to creating entire programs centered around evidence...

7. 

   22 Nov 2024

   Teaching CATs

   Eric Barends, Director of the Center for Evidence-Based Management, shares expert insights on teaching students to run Critically Appraised Topics, a crucial skill for evidence-based management.

8. 

   25 Oct 2024

   Learning evidence-based management - what students say

   Why do students choose to study evidence-based management, and what do they value about the way it's taught and the skills and experience they acquire? Here we spotlight the stories of five students who have transformed their approach to learning and working through evidence-based management. We explore the tangible benefits of evidence-based management for students of different life stages - discovering how critical thinking becomes a valued approach, leading to better outcomes in teamw...

9. 

   6 Aug 2024

   Teaching evidence-based management to executive doctorate / DBA students

   This episode explores the teaching challenges and rewards of Executive Doctorate or DBA (Doctorate of Business Administration) programmes. Executive Doctorate / DBA students may be pursuing a move to academia - in which case the task for their professors is to make them better teachers by adding a research component to their practitioner expertise. Alternatively they may be seeking the research component to supplement and deepen their existing expertise, in which case the teacher's role is to help develop already good managers and executives into better ones. We explore the power of fostering a community of practice within DBA programs, the importance of using a cohort model for the teaching phase, and the challenges of matching professors with students in terms of their experience and expertise during the dissertation or project phase. This calls for different skills from the teachers and a willingness from both learners and teachers to share strengths and reveal weaknesses - all in the pursuit of learning, developing and tackling real world problems. Our guests have years of experience supporting expert practitioners in organisations to challenge their thinking and approaches through evidence based management practices. They share their experiences and teaching methods, including advice for the next steps that could take teachers or learners to the next stage. Host: Karen Plum Guests: Denise Rousseau (https://www.heinz.cmu.edu/faculty-research/profiles/rousseau-denisem), H J Heinz University Professor, Carnegie Mellon University, Pennsylvania, USA Lars Mathiassen (https://www.larsmathiassen.org) - GRA Eminent Scholar, Regents Professor, Computer Information Systems, Center for Digital Innovation, J. Mack Robinson College of Business, Georgia State University Jo-Louise Huq (http://www.linkedin.com/in/Jo-Louise Huq) - Assistant Professor (Teaching), University of Calgary, Cumming School of Medicine | Community Health Sciences, Haskayne School of Business |Entrepreneurship and Innovation Haskayne University Calgary Doug Gilbert (https://www.linkedin.com/in/drdouggilbert) - College of Management and Human Potential, Walden University, Minneapolis, Minnesota Mentions: Center for Evidence-Based Management (https://cebma.org/) CEBMa Teachers Network (https://cebma.org/services/teachers-network/) Executive DBA Council (https://edbac.org/) (EDBAC) EDBAC Engaged Management Review (https://emr.case.edu/) Engaged Management Scholarship Conference (https://edbac.org/ems2024) - Henley-on-Thames 5-7 September 2024

10. 

    21 May 2024

    Teaching evidence-based management to executive students

    Teaching evidence-based management to executive students (those who are already experienced managers within organisations) requires a different approach to the teaching of students at undergraduate level. With executive students, we are presented with people who have seen it all, done it all, and have certainly got the scars on their backs to prove it. These people carry the weight of organizational experience and preconceived notions from management trends they've tried, with varying degrees of success. So armed with examples and a rich understanding of IO psychology, it's the educator's job to help students rise above the noise of past practices, and engage these pragmatic learners in an ultimately liberating approach to evidence-based decision-making. The guests share their experiences and approaches when teaching executive students - blending academic rigor with the nitty-gritty of the business world. They also talk about how they personally judge the success of their teaching methods and share some advice to those thinking of taking the plunge with executive students, including a warm invitation to contact the Center for Evidence-Based Management! Host: Karen Plum Guests: Eric Barends (https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-barends-a194377/), Managing Director of the Center for Evidence-Based Management (https://cebma.org/) Preston Davis (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesprestondavis/), Assistant Professor of Management, Coles College, Kennesaw  State University, Atlanta,  Georgia, USA Dr Gary Latham, (https://discover.research.utoronto.ca/11453-gary-latham) Professor of Organizational Psychology, Rotman School of Management, University of Toronto, Canada Neil Walshe (https://www.linkedin.com/in/neilwalshe/), Associate Professor of Organizational Psychology, School of Management, University of San Francisco, California , USA Mentions: Center for Evidence-Based Management (https://cebma.org/) CEBMa Teachers Network (https://cebma.org/services/teachers-network/) CEBMa’s Online Course Modules (https://cebma.org/resources/education/cebmas-online-course-modules/) Dr Gary Latham's book: Becoming the Evidence-Based Manager - Making the Science of Management Work for You (https://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Evidence-Based-Manager-2nd-Management/dp/1473676975/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2GDABZD1SZ8TF&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.lFNOVYq-jtsHChRewlBB5aOelx8s2nG9F0N86Yh6aR362h8mwE02PZxUEFfjkc6SMvVPtmT3Yi_ZOHtWwoxQp2vEkInbGiRd-gBx2MRxndg9ESZ8ZYSqGu3NEGzEHNtyQw1urPEkkoNWylm79cWwwLbpeTnV_vErxz5hdg_Im3lZdJORKhyOm8W3RLmH0q6sZTHy1ZJjxkcWGJwMnLEVnUwaP-ABmy_Hf4IcrVDRjBQ.Rfz1Q4Q6xqpJZA539oKwnuwZAKigjnRby4ixWYr8-84&dib_tag=se&keywords=gary+latham&qid=1715706420&sprefix=gary+latham%2Caps%2C290&sr=8-1 ) Organizational Dynamics Journal (https://www.sciencedirect.com/journal/organizational-dynamics ) - edited by Dr Gary Latham

11. 

    6 Mar 2024

    Why teach evidence-based management?

    In this introduction to the podcast, step into the groundbreaking realm of Evidence-Based Management (EBM) with us as we chart its evolution from the influential Evidence-Based Medicine movement. Eric Berends, Denise Rousseau, Rob Briner and Jeffrey Pfeffer dissect the persistent gap between knowledge and application that hampers both healthcare and corporate landscapes. This episode promises an enlightening journey through the complex process of making data-driven decisions in management, highlighting the untapped potential of research in guiding business practices and the critical role of educators in narrowing this divide. Unlock the secrets to enhancing decision-making in the corporate world through the lens of reflective learning and the power of diverse experiences. Professor Denise Rousseau's experiment with change management students reveals profound insights into the educational process and the importance of a holistic problem-solving approach. We confront the puzzling resistance to adopting EBM in academia, probing into who holds the reins of responsibility for elevating managerial decision-making. This exploration is not only thought-provoking but a call to action for educators and institutions to arm future leaders with the evidence-based toolkit necessary for navigating the ever-changing business terrain. Navigating the academic sphere presents its unique challenges and opportunities in disseminating EBM principles. Hear from our guests as they advocate for a skillful blend of technical mastery and a curious, respectful mindset among graduates aiming to employ evidence-based approaches in their careers. Discover the tactical strategies educators can implement to weave EBM into curricula, starting small and dreaming big, while also contemplating the intrinsic merit of scientific evidence in organizational contexts. As Rob Briner urges educators to ponder their contribution to this field, we invite you to join us in a conversation that's not just about imparting knowledge but transforming the very fabric of management education. Host: Karen Plum Guests: Denise Rousseau (https://www.heinz.cmu.edu/faculty-research/profiles/rousseau-denisem), H J Heinz University Professor, Carnegie Mellon University (https://www.cmu.edu/), Pennsylvania, USA Rob Briner (https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-briner/), Professor of Organisational Psychology, Queen Mary University of London (https://www.qmul.ac.uk/) Eric Barends (https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-barends-a194377/), Managing Director of the Center for Evidence-Based Management (https://cebma.org/) Jeffrey Pfeffer (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffrey-pfeffer-57a01b6/), Thomas D. Dee II Professor of Organizational Behavior at Stanford University's Graduate School of Business (https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/) Mentions: Center for Evidence-Based Management (https://cebma.org/) CEBMa Teachers Network (https://cebma.org/services/teachers-network/) CEBMa’s Online Course Modules (https://cebma.org/resources/education/cebmas-online-course-modules/)

12. 

    11 Dec 2023

    Teaching evidence-based management to undergraduates - part 2

    This episode continues our discussion about teaching evidence-based management to undergraduates (listen to Part 1 (https://www.buzzsprout.com/2279292/14071369) if you haven't already!). We discuss how to ensure that the next generation of managers is not just well-versed with the theories, but also equipped to make evidence-based decisions in the real-world, developing the skills they need to challenge the current way of doing things (with humility!). We bring together experienced teachers from renowned universities like Tilburg, Colorado College, James Madison, Carnegie Mellon and KU Leuven, to uncover the strategies and challenges in teaching evidence-based management to undergraduates. Our guests share their experience of using pre and post-tests to measure the effectiveness of teaching and how to create an aspiration among students to continue using evidence-based practices beyond their education - tapping into the ways in which they already use multiple sources of evidence. We discover that an evidence-based approach is giving students a framework for navigating the often overwhelming amount of information, facts and truths available to them - helping to combat the increasing level of uncertainty and ambiguity they otherwise face in the world. Join us as we unravel the complex world of teaching evidence-based management to undergraduates, filled with practical tips, expert advice, and much more. Host: Karen Plum Guests: Brigitte Kroon (https://www.linkedin.com/in/brigitte-kroon-42873316/), Associate Professor of Human Resource Studies, Tilburg University (https://www.linkedin.com/school/tilburg-university/), Netherlands Christina Rader (https://www.linkedin.com/in/christina-rader-2a5540b/), Associate Professor with Tenure, Department of Economics and Business at Colorado College (https://www.coloradocollege.edu/), Colorado, USA David Peterson (https://www.linkedin.com/in/drdrpeterson/), Associate Professor of Management, James Madison University (https://www.jmu.edu/index.shtml), Virginia, USA Denise Rousseau (https://www.heinz.cmu.edu/faculty-research/profiles/rousseau-denisem), H J Heinz University Professor, Carnegie Mellon University (https://www.cmu.edu/), Pennsylvania, USA Jeroen Stouten (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeroen-stouten/), Professor of Organizational Psychology, KU Leuven (https://www.kuleuven.be/kuleuven/), Belgium & CEBMa (https://cebma.org/) Scientific Director Rob Briner (https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-briner/), Professor of Organisational Psychology, Queen Mary University of London (https://www.qmul.ac.uk/) Mentions: Eric Barends (https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-barends-a194377/), Managing Director of the Center for Evidence-Based Management (https://cebma.org/) CEBMa Teachers Network (https://cebma.org/services/teachers-network/) CEBMa’s Online Course Modules (https://cebma.org/resources/education/cebmas-online-course-modules/)

13. 

    11 Dec 2023

    Teaching evidence-based management to undergraduates - part 1

    Ever wonder how we can elevate the management process with a more evidence-based approach? Brace yourself for a riveting conversation that provides tangible strategies to enhance management teaching at the undergraduate level. Our guests share their rich insights on the challenges and benefits of teaching evidence-based management to undergraduates. Listen as we dive into the importance of critical thinking, problem-solving skills, and bridging the gap between research and practice. But we're not stopping there. The second half of our conversation pushes the envelope even further, drawing a line from the classroom to the real world of human resource management. Our guests peel back the layers of teaching evidence-based consulting, revealing the blend of theory, evidence, and practical application involved. This episode promises a rich mix of academia and real-world application that will leave you with a refreshed perspective on teaching evidence-based management. Host: Karen Plum Guests: Brigitte Kroon (https://www.linkedin.com/in/brigitte-kroon-42873316/), Associate Professor of Human Resource Studies, Tilburg University (https://www.linkedin.com/school/tilburg-university/), Netherlands Christina Rader (https://www.linkedin.com/in/christina-rader-2a5540b/), Associate Professor with Tenure, Department of Economics and Business at Colorado College (https://www.coloradocollege.edu/), Colorado, USA David Peterson (https://www.linkedin.com/in/drdrpeterson/), Associate Professor of Management, James Madison University (https://www.jmu.edu/index.shtml), Virginia, USA Denise Rousseau (https://www.heinz.cmu.edu/faculty-research/profiles/rousseau-denisem), H J Heinz University Professor, Carnegie Mellon University (https://www.cmu.edu/), Pennsylvania, USA Jeroen Stouten (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeroen-stouten/), Professor of Organizational Psychology, KU Leuven (https://www.kuleuven.be/kuleuven/), Belgium & CEBMa (https://cebma.org/) Scientific Director Mentions: Center for Evidence-Based Management (https://cebma.org/) CEBMa Teachers Network (https://cebma.org/services/teachers-network/) CEBMa’s Online Course Modules (https://cebma.org/resources/education/cebmas-online-course-modules/)

14. 

    22 Nov 2023

    Trailer - introducing the show

    Evidence-based management is a critical skill for people working in organisations. More and more people are taking courses and starting to practice better decision making by looking at multiple sources of evidence - not just their own experience. The Center for Evidence-Based Management leads the way in teaching, training and practicing best practice methods. Training (https://cebma.org/resources/education/) is available for those wanting to improve their evidence-based management skills, and there is a Teachers Network (https://cebma.org/services/teachers-network/) for those who teach (elements of) evidence-based management. Here we share ideas about learning, insights on best practices, and teaching materials that teachers can use in their classes. This podcast is for educators who are currently teaching evidence based management, or who are are thinking of taking the plunge! We talk to people who teach this approach to different groups – from under graduates to executives – and share their experiences, tips and techniques – what works and what doesn’t, for each kind of learner. Subscribe now so you don't miss an episode! For more information on the Center for Evidence-Based Management, please head to our website (https://cebma.org/), where you can also get in touch with us.

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