TechMagic with Cathy Hackl helps you navigate the future and make sense of today’s rapid technological change. Hear unique perspectives, explore new trends, and journey into the heart of technology. TechMagic is a must-listen for anyone passionate about the future of tech because Arthur C. Clarke said it best: “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."<hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>

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TechMagic with Cathy Hackl helps you navigate the future and make sense of today’s rapid technological change. Hear unique perspectives, explore new trends, and journey into the heart of technology. TechMagic is a must-listen for anyone passionate about the future of tech because Arthur C. Clarke said it best: “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."<hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
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January 28, 2026
The Future of Dating and AI, Voice Technology, and Gaming Trends with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Adam Cohen-Aslatei
<p>In this episode of <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/techmagic-with-cathy-hackl/id1586989316" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">TechMagic</a>, hosts <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/cathyhackl/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cathy Hackl</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/leekebler/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lee Kebler</a> dive into the latest developments in AI, gaming IP, and practical technology trends shaping the industry today. They explore why the current AI skepticism signals maturity, how AI solutions are moving beyond flashy features, and the rise of gaming as a prime entertainment and commercial frontier. In the second segment, Cathy interviews <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-cohen-aslatei-0170018/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adam Cohen-Aslatei</a>, CEO of Three Day Rule, about how human-centered AI is transforming matchmaking. They discuss voice-first technology, data-driven compatibility, IRL dating resurgence, coaching as a skill, and why AI amplifies intuition rather than replacing human connection.</p><br><p>Come for the tech and stay for the magic!</p><br><p><br></p><p><strong>Cathy Hackl Bio</strong></p><br><p>Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. </p><p>Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. </p><br><p>Cathy Hackl on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/cathyhackl/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></p><p>Spatial Dynamics on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/spatialdynamics/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></p><br><p><br></p><p><strong>Lee Kebler Bio</strong></p><br><p>Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like Will<a href="http://will.i.am" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">.i.am</a> and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.</p><br><p>Lee Kebler on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/leekebler/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></p><br><p><br></p><p><strong>Adam Cohen-Aslatei Bio</strong></p><br><p>Adam Cohen Aslatei is the CEO of Three Day Rule, one of the longest-standing matchmaking companies in the United States, with over 15 years of industry experience. With a background spanning dating app development, including roles at Bumble and the Meet Group, he brings a unique perspective on the evolution of digital dating and human connection. Adam is recognized for pioneering the integration of AI-driven matchmaking with traditional human-centered approaches, leveraging over 80,000 successful match data points to create outcomes-focused dating solutions.</p><br><p>Adam Cohen Aslatei on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-cohen-aslatei-0170018/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></p><br><p><br></p><p><strong>Key Discussion Topics: </strong></p><p><br></p><ul><li>00:00 Intro</li><li>03:15 AI's "So What?" Question: Moving Beyond Hype to Real Utility</li><li>06:22 Apple Intelligence and Gmail Show the Power of Unobtrusive AI Integration</li><li>10:18 The Trough of Disillusionment: Why We're Excited About AI's Reality Check</li><li>12:22 Robotic Snow Removal and Vocational Work: AI Supporting Human Infrastructure</li><li>17:33 Tech Magic Transitions to New Home with Big Plans Ahead</li><li>18:45 Three-Day Rule: Building AI Matchmaking on 15 Years of Real Data</li><li>20:24 How AI Sentiment Analysis Detects Truth in Dating Compatibility</li><li>25:28 Voice-First Technology Creates More Authentic Human Connection</li><li>29:13 Why In-Real-Life Dating Experiences Beat Endless Digital Swiping</li><li>31:18 Dating as a Learnable Skill: How Coaching Increases Match Success by 40%</li><li>34:45 Three Day Rule's 70-80% Success Rate vs. Dating Apps' 9% Failure</li><li>40:09 Gaming IP Movies and the End of Marvel Fatigue</li><li>43:41 Super Mario Galaxy, Iron Lung, and the Rise of Game Adaptations</li><li>46:48 Fallout Series Success: How Gaming IP Drives Video Game Sales</li><li>49:51 Gaming's Hidden Economy: Slot Machines, Free-to-Play, and Esports Silos</li><li>51:17 Walmart and Unity SDK: Selling Physical Products in Virtual Worlds</li><li>52:04 1.1 Million Unity Developers Get New Revenue Channels</li></ul><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>

January 21, 2026
AI Ads, Data Center Labor, Skilled Trades, XR Training, and Spatial Web with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler
<p>In this episode of <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/techmagic-with-cathy-hackl/id1586989316" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">TechMagic</a>, hosts <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/cathyhackl/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cathy Hackl</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/leekebler/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lee Kebler</a>, unpack the realities behind today’s AI headlines. They explore OpenAI’s shift toward advertising, the growing human bottleneck in data center expansion, and why the AI conversation is moving beyond productivity toward physical and human-centred systems. The discussion dives into the surprising earning power of skilled trades, how XR is transforming workforce training, and why the metaverse was never just about VR headsets. From VRChat to The Sims, Cathy and Lee reveal where the spatial web is quietly taking shape, and what it all means for the future of work and technology.</p><br><p>Come for the tech and stay for the magic!</p><br><p><br></p><p><strong>Cathy Hackl Bio</strong></p><br><p>Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. </p><p>Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. </p><p>Cathy Hackl on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/cathyhackl/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></p><p>Spatial Dynamics on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/spatialdynamics/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></p><br><p><br></p><br><p><strong>Lee Kebler Bio</strong></p><br><p>Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like Will<a href="http://will.i.am" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">.i.am</a> and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.</p><p>Lee Kebler on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/leekebler/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></p><br><p><br></p><p><strong>Key Discussion Topics: </strong></p><p><br></p><ul><li>00:00 Intro</li><li>00:33 The Shift in AI Conversation: From Productivity to Humanity</li><li>05:15 OpenAI's Financial Crisis and the Ad-Supported ChatGPT Problem</li><li>11:31 Can AI Intentionally Give Wrong Answers to Keep You Engaged?</li><li>13:46 The Unexpected HVAC and Trades Shortage Fueling AI Infrastructure</li><li>16:34 How XR Technology Transfers Expert Knowledge to New Tradespeople</li><li>20:21 Meta's Metaverse Layoffs: Why Spatial Computing Is Still the Future</li><li>25:33 VRChat Breaks Records While Gaming Embraces Living Worlds</li><li>26:28 Luxury Brands Return to Gaming with Coach and The Sims</li><li>28:08 Bethesda Revamps Fallout 76 After TV Show Success</li><li>32:31 Book Recommendations and Final Thoughts</li></ul><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>

January 14, 2026
CES 2026 Trends, World Models, Privacy-First AI, Robotics Demos, Future Devices with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler
<p>In this episode of <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/techmagic-with-cathy-hackl/id1586989316" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">TechMagic</a>, hosts <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/cathyhackl/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cathy Hackl</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/leekebler/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lee Kebler</a> return from a holiday break to unpack the most important ideas and innovations from CES 2026. Cathy breaks down how the AI conversation has evolved beyond large language models into embodied AI, agentic systems, world models, and on-device intelligence. The discussion spans standout demos, from attention-aware robots and immersive VR experiences to smart wearables and biodegradable batteries. Cathy and Lee also question whether AI is solving real problems or becoming an innovation theatre. We end with a forward look at 2027 as a critical inflection point for AI devices from Apple, OpenAI, and Meta.</p><br><p>Come for the tech, stay for the magic!</p><br><p><br></p><p><strong>Cathy Hackl Bio</strong></p><br><p>Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. </p><p>Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. </p><br><p>Cathy Hackl on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/cathyhackl/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></p><p>Spatial Dynamics on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/spatialdynamics/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></p><br><p><br></p><p><strong>Lee Kebler Bio</strong></p><br><p>Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like Will<a href="http://will.i.am" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">.i.am</a> and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.</p><p>Lee Kebler on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/leekebler/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></p><br><p><br></p><p><strong>Key Discussion Topics: </strong></p><br><p>00:00 Intro: Welcome Back to Tech Magic in 2026</p><p>03:27 AI's Evolution: From Language Models to Embodied Intelligence</p><p>05:30 Glasses Galore: Meta Ray-Ban Displays and Wearable Utility</p><p>09:26 Robots Everywhere: From Laundry Folders to AI-Powered Lawnmowers</p><p>12:00 CES 2027 Inflection Point: Q3-Q4 2026 Device Announcements to Watch</p><p>16:11 Innovation Theater vs. Problem-Solving: Evaluating Real Tech Impact</p><p>18:21 Trinity Vehicle and Cool Concepts: NVIDIA and Will.i.am's AI-Powered EV</p><p>20:51 Biodegradable Paper Batteries: Flint's Sustainable Solution</p><p>23:04 XR Display Glasses and Next-Gen Wearables: X Real and Gaming Integration</p><p>24:01 Attention Labs: On-Device AI and Data Sovereignty in Robotics</p><p>27:53 Why On-Device AI Matters: Global Markets and Data Regulations</p><p>29:30 IXR Podcast Meetup: Felix and Paul's Interstellar Arc VR Experience</p><p>33:32 LEGO Smart Bricks: The Future of Educational Robotics</p><p>35:44 Final Thoughts: CES as Geekapalooza and Plans for 2027</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
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