Welcome to the Techquitable podcast, your audio guide through the complex landscape of emerging technologies and equitable ownership.
Hosted by Connor Spelliscy and Tony Douglas Jr. of the Decentralization Research Center, this podcast will host a diverse array of voices — from researchers and policy makers to forward-thinking entrepreneurs and industry leaders — to keep you informed on the latest findings and research surrounding decentralization, governance and emerging technologies.
The attention economy and online governance, with Nathan Schneider
Nathan Schneider (@ntnsndr), professor of media studies at the University of Colorado Boulder and director of the Media Economies Design Lab, joined the Decentralization Research Center's podcast to discuss his new paper, “Online Governance Surfaces and Attention Economies,” how attention functions as labor, and what it means to design governance systems that respect people’s time and focus.
Timestamps:
02:31 Why attention and governance are inseparable
04:47 The hidden costs of democracy: governance as labor
09:44 Attention scarcity vs. collective abundance
12:59 “To look is to labor”: attention as work
18:45 Designing ethically for people’s attention
22:18 Case study 1: DAOstack and prediction markets for governance
27:20 Case study 2: Stewards and delegated attention
31:25 Case study 3: The limits of automation
37:31 Five heuristics for designing attention-aware governance
46:34 How to evolve attention economies as organizations scale
56:27 Upcoming projects from Nathan’s lab and Metagov
6 Sept 2025
The importance of control criteria in crypto legislation with Gabriel Shapiro
Gabriel Shapiro, a crypto lawyer and founder of MetaLeX, joins the Decentralization Research Center’s Connor Spelliscy to discuss market structure legislation, limiting principles for Howey, ancillary assets, and the risks of incentivizing useless tokens.
Timestamps:
02:37 - Are there limiting principles for Howey?
06:11 - Prior Senate draft vs. CLARITY Act: ancillary assets explained
09:29 - Why CLARITY’s framework is more durable
13:53 - Incentivizing rights-less tokens: “race-to-the-bottom stuff”
16:01 - The danger of bad incentives
19:36 - VC token sales: 60% in initial Senate draft vs. 5–20% in House bill
22:28 - Decentralized governance: protections in CLARITY vs. Senate
26:37 - What “amazing” SEC exemptions could look like
28:54 - SEC vs. CFTC: who should regulate token markets
30:32 - The importance of a hard-coded decentralization test
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1 Jul 2025
Rules for the next generation of financial infrastructure, with Jane Khodarkovsky and Nikhil Raghuveera
Tony Douglas interviews Jane Khodarkovsky, partner at Arktouros, and Nikhil Raghuveera, CEO of Predicate, about building financial infrastructure responsibly, covering regulation, developer liability, and AI's impact.
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