
Telling Jefferson Lies
Claim This Podcastby Warren Throckmorton
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<p>Season Three began April 28. I am renaming the podcast The Christian Past That Wasn't to be consistent with the forthcoming book from Broadleaf Books, The Christian Past That Wasn't: Debunking the Christian Nationalist Myths That Hijack History. This is so much more than a fact-checking book; it critiques the entire Christian nationalist project and misuse of history for political gain. Consistent with the first two seasons of this podcast, The Christian Past That Wasn't demonstrates that separation of church and state was the intention of the framers of the charter documents. We would be so much better off if we stayed true to separation of church and state in the US.</p><p><br></p><p>Podcast summary:<br><br>Telling Jefferson Lies chronicles how history can be hijacked for ideological and political purposes, as well as a much broader story about the surge of Christian nationalism and the misuse of history which often goes along with it. The series begins in season one with an in-depth consideration of the methods of Christian nationalist story teller David Barton. Then I tell the story of how his book on Jefferson was pulled from publication in 2012 and the response of evangelicals to that rare event. From there, I broaden the scope to examine the varieties of Christian nationalism and the negative consequences of this way of thinking about church and state. The last segment examines the reasons why the separation of church and state is good history, good civics, and good religion. </p><p><br></p><p>Season two consists of interviews with experts on Christian nationalism and the effects of religious liberty on church and state. <br><br>For more information, go to http://www.gettingjeffersonright.com and http://www.christianpast.com. </p>
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Recent Episodes

May 19, 2026
America is Not a Covenant Nation - The Christian Past That Wasn't Launch Episode
Host Dr. Chris Brooks debunks the myth that America is a covenant nation for European Protestants, revealing historical inaccuracies in this interview.

May 14, 2026
Evidence the American System Was Not Founded on Christianity - Bonus Episode
Warren Throckmorton explores how the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights, not Christianity, shaped America's governmental system.

May 12, 2026
What Draws People to Christian Nationalism? An Interview with Jeremie Beller
Send us Fan Mail In my book The Christian Past That Wasn't (Broadleaf Books), I spend two chapters on the factors that make Christian nationalism attractive. In this segment, I interview Dean of Oklahoma Christian University's College of Bible, Jeremie Beller on the subject of terror management. This theory provides a powerful, research-based account of what makes nationalism attractive to people. Jeremie's theological expertise provides a novel perspective on the application of terror manage...
44 total episodes available with 5 transcripts
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- What is Telling Jefferson Lies?
<p>Season Three began April 28. I am renaming the podcast The Christian Past That Wasn't to be consistent with the forthcoming book from Broadleaf Books, The Christian Past That Wasn't: Debunking the Christian Nationalist Myths That Hijack History. This is so much more than a fact-checking book; it critiques the entire Christian nationalist project and misuse of history for political gain. Consistent with the first two seasons of this podcast, The Christian Past That Wasn't demonstrates that separation of church and state was the intention of the framers of the charter documents. We would be so much better off if we stayed true to separation of church and state in the US.</p><p><br></p><p>Podcast summary:<br><br>Telling Jefferson Lies chronicles how history can be hijacked for ideological and political purposes, as well as a much broader story about the surge of Christian nationalism and the misuse of history which often goes along with it. The series begins in season one with an in-depth consideration of the methods of Christian nationalist story teller David Barton. Then I tell the story of how his book on Jefferson was pulled from publication in 2012 and the response of evangelicals to that rare event. From there, I broaden the scope to examine the varieties of Christian nationalism and the negative consequences of this way of thinking about church and state. The last segment examines the reasons why the separation of church and state is good history, good civics, and good religion. </p><p><br></p><p>Season two consists of interviews with experts on Christian nationalism and the effects of religious liberty on church and state. <br><br>For more information, go to http://www.gettingjeffersonright.com and http://www.christianpast.com. </p> - How often does this podcast release new episodes?
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