Tenacity is a podcast for individuals and couples navigating the hardest moments of life and relationships.
Hosted by Patrick Martinez, this show goes beyond theory and into lived experience—covering marriage under pressure, crisis, trust, resilience, and reality of rebuilding when everything seems lost.
Through raw storytelling, practical frameworks, and hard-earned insight, Tenacity equips you to survive what you’re facing—and build something stronger on the other side.
This isn’t about perfect relationships. It’s about enduring, rebuilding, and refusing to give up when it matters most.
The Tenacity Podcast Episode 27 Part 3: It's Okay To Be Sad. It's Not Okay To Be Depressed.
Anxiety is carrying too much. Depression is when the circumstances start deciding your future for you. Patrick has been there: the couch, the light moving across the wall, hours gone, a friend on the phone saying I'm worried about you, and a pastor telling him he was living in the basement with the windows shut.
This is Part 3 of a three-part series on anxiety and depression in the midst of a crisis. Patrick and Maddie draw the line between necessary sadness and depression, talk about sweet lemons and sour grapes, and lay out what they are doing while their daughters are gone: the fathers' group, ice club, saying yes to things they did not feel like doing, praying for the opposition, and getting the girls' rooms ready for when they come home.
Part 1 and Part 2 cover anxiety.
Chapters
00:00 Previously, on Parts 1 and 2
00:54 Welcome
01:16 Anxiety vs Depression
02:35 Necessary Sadness
04:45 Where To Draw The Line
06:55 Staring At The Wall
08:28 You're In The Basement
09:49 Hopelessness
11:38 Preparing For Them To Come Home
13:26 Sweet Lemons, Sour Grapes
15:53 Content In Despair
17:11 Stubbornly Living Your Life
19:06 No Idle Hands
19:58 The Fathers' Group
22:37 Depression Wants You Isolated
25:09 Let People Support You
29:13 Praying For The Opposition
31:16 Reframe The Crisis
33:51 Pivot, Adapt, Level Up
35:43 Commit To The Suck
37:39 You Never Regret Going
40:45 Sadness Is Not Depression
The Tenacity Podcast is Patrick and Maddie Martinez, a podcast for couples about marriage, family and getting through a crisis together.
Free 30 minute call with Patrick: call.pem.coach
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30 Sept 2026
The Tenacity Podcast Epi 26: Anxiety And Depression In A Crisis Part 2
Month five of the crisis. Nothing has gotten better. Their daughters are still gone, the court is still the court, and the longer it goes the worse it looks on paper. What changed is Maddie's response to it.
This is Part 2 of a three-part series on anxiety and depression in the midst of a crisis. Patrick and Maddie talk about suffering with a purpose instead of pointlessly, why a crisis magnifies every flaw you were already carrying, the fog of war and why you are not supposed to see the whole path, and the shame that shows up when you cannot keep up appearances. Then the high chair: a baby shower gift with a $35 budget, an antique from Facebook Marketplace, twelve hours of stripping and painting, and a cousin who called it the most meaningful gift he got.
Part 1 is where the anxiety conversation started. Part 3 is depression.
Chapters
00:00 Previously, on Part 1
00:58 Welcome
01:49 Peace Despite The Chaos
03:25 Suffering With A Purpose
04:49 The Choice Inside Suffering
05:53 A Crisis Magnifies Every Flaw
07:08 The Last Crisis
08:13 Wisdom Only Suffering Teaches
10:52 The Fog Of War
13:32 Walking By Faith
14:45 Shame And Self-image
15:56 Caring What People Think
16:59 The Baby Shower Gift
19:17 Abased And Abounding
20:22 The $35 High Chair
25:22 The Gift He'd Remember
26:43 Draining People
30:06 Find The Source, Remove It
30:46 Be Proud Of The Fight
31:49 Please God, Not Men
The Tenacity Podcast is Patrick and Maddie Martinez, a podcast for couples about marriage, family and getting through a crisis together.
Free 30 minute call with Patrick: call.pem.coach
23 Sept 2026
The Tenacity Podcast Epi 25: Anxiety And Depression In A Crisis - Part 1
Maddie has been anxious since she was a kid. Then the crisis hit: five and a half months without their daughters, another round of false accusations, court dates, attorney bills. The anxiety turned into a skin infection that three months of antibiotics could not clear, because the thing keeping it alive was stress.
This is Part 1 of a three-part series on anxiety and depression in the midst of a crisis. Maddie describes what anxiety is like from the inside, every waking second, and Patrick describes what it was like to watch. Then they walk through what actually changed: the two priorities Maddie was allowed to worry about and the note on her phone that held them, what Patrick took off her plate, what he had to hand off himself, and why self-care is not a pedicure.
Part 2 keeps going on anxiety, the shame that comes with a crisis, and a $35 high chair. Part 3 is depression.
Chapters
00:00 Someone's about to die
00:19 Why Anxiety, Why Now
03:15 Every Waking Second
05:25 Anxiety Or Trauma
06:14 Peace Can't Depend On Circumstances
09:24 The Illness That Forced The Lesson
13:25 Chapter One: Self-care
17:49 Two Priorities, Nothing Else
19:41 That's Not Your Burden
21:26 Let Him Cook
22:23 You're Not Their Protector
26:18 Self-care Is Active
27:29 Interrupt The Spiral
29:05 Where The Worry Came From
30:28 Your Body Thinks It's A Wolf
The Tenacity Podcast is Patrick and Maddie Martinez, a podcast for couples about marriage, family and getting through a crisis together.
Free 30 minute call with Patrick: call.pem.coach
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