That Change Show

About That Change Show

Change management doesn't have to be boring. That Change Show is a weekly-ish, live and unfiltered podcast that dives deep into the messy world of change and transformation. Join Lean Change found and two-time Amazon best selling author, Jason Little as he destroys the status quo while exploring topics like AI's role in change, lean and agile change management techniques, and commentary on the world of change management. If you're an agile coach or change manager craving radical insights, this is your new addiction. Jason is the author of The Six Big Ideas of Adaptive Organizations, From Skeptic to Strategist: Embracing AI in Change Management, Lean Change Management, and Change Agility. Video episodes available at https://leanchange.tv

Publisher

Lean Change Management

Category

business

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

21 Nov 2021

Latest episode

2 Dec 2025

Latest episodes

34 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   2 Dec 2025

   The Human in the Lead: Why Change Agents Must Become AI Champions

   Have ideas for the show? Liked a topic? Let us know! Connect with Rachel: https://www.linkedin.com/in/racheljannaway/ That Change Show on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/79698579/ Forget the technical jargon. This conversation is about strategy, culture, and embracing the philosophy of "human and, not human or". This episode is essential for Agile coaches and change managers seeking to lead their organizations through AI transformation, focusing on conditions, iteration, and human...

2. 

   25 Nov 2025

   Why The Backlash Against AI May Be More Harmful Than The Hype

   Have ideas for the show? Liked a topic? Let us know! Well, it's been so long I actually forgot I already did episode 1 of season 3! In this episode we talk about why the anti-ai sentiment is more damaging than ai-hype. Jason Little is an internationally acclaimed speaker and author of Lean Change Management, Change Agility and Agile Transformation: 4 Steps to Organizational Transformation. That Change Show is a live show where the topics are inspired by Lean Change workshops and lean coffee s...

3. 

   14 Feb 2025

   The Human Side of Change: Satir, Patterns, Systems, and Complexity with Don Gray

   Have ideas for the show? Liked a topic? Let us know! In this episode of That Change Show, Jason sits down with Don Gray for a deep dive into the realities of change management—beyond frameworks, buzzwords, and rigid processes. They explore why change is messy, how emotions and values shape resistance, and why organizations often focus on the wrong levers when trying to transform. Drawing from personal experiences, the Satir Change Model, and insights from complex systems thinking, Jason and D...

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Spotify

5.0 / 5

1 ratings

Podcast Authority Score: 10 / 100

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Quality

8

Social presence

0

YouTube

0

Engagement

32

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