The innovation to implementation gap is 17 years. Podcasts were invented 17 years ago. Coincidence? We don’t think so. That Implementation Science Podcast discusses everything related to Implementation Science, and many things not. Co-hosts Mike Pullmann and Kevin King interview guests, review new research, and implement solutions to things that aren’t even problems yet.

That Implementation Science Podcast
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The innovation to implementation gap is 17 years. Podcasts were invented 17 years ago. Coincidence? We don’t think so. That Implementation Science Podcast discusses everything related to Implementation Science, and many things not. Co-hosts Mike Pullmann and Kevin King interview guests, review new research, and implement solutions to things that aren’t even problems yet.
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Recent Episodes

June 28, 2026
Eric Bruns: How policy impacts wraparound implementation
In this episode, Kevin and Mike interview Eric Bruns and discuss policy challenges, highlight a few examples of policy work he has done with Wraparound care, discuss some reasons why policy may not receive adequate attention in implementation science, and Eric took our quiz on some of his favorite musicians. Discussed on this episode: Arean and Pullmann, High Quality Psychosocial Interventions Research: https://global.oup.com/academic/product/high-quality-psychosocial-interventions-research-9780197681923?cc=us&lang=en& Walker SC, Lyon AR, Aos S, Trupin EW. The Consistencies and Vagaries of the Washington State Inventory of Evidence-Based Practice: The Definition of "Evidence-Based" in a Policy Context. Adm Policy Ment Health. 2017 Jan;44(1):42-54. doi: 10.1007/s10488-015-0652-y. PMID: 25894313. Purtle, J., Peters, R. & Brownson, R.C. A review of policy dissemination and implementation research funded by the National Institutes of Health, 2007–2014. Implementation Sci 11, 1 (2015). https://doi.org/10.1186/s13012-015-0367-1 Efficacy of modular cognitive behavior therapy for childhood anxiety disorders, Bruce F. Chorpita Daleiden EL, Chorpita BF, Donkervoet C, Arensdorf AM, Brogan M. Getting better at getting them better: health outcomes and evidence-based practice within a system of care. J Am Acad Child Adolesc Psychiatry. 2006 Jun;45(6):749-56. doi: 10.1097/01.chi.0000215154.07142.63. PMID: 16721326.

May 9, 2026
Rani Elwy: Implementation Science and Menopause Policy
In which we interview Rani Elwy about her work at the intersection of implementation science and policy as she served as a Robert Wood Johnson health policy fellow in the US Senate focusing on menopause care. We discuss menopause policy, stigma, implementation and deimplementation challenges for menopause care, and what it was like to work as a policy fellow for Senator Patty Murray. Discussed on today's show: Bauer MS, Kirchner J. Implementation science: What is it and why should I care? Psychiatry Res. 2020 Jan;283:112376. doi: 10.1016/j.psychres.2019.04.025. Epub 2019 Apr 23. PMID: 31036287. Lane-Fall MB, Curran GM, Beidas RS. Scoping implementation science for the beginner: locating yourself on the "subway line" of translational research. BMC Med Res Methodol. 2019 Jun 28;19(1):133. doi: 10.1186/s12874-019-0783-z. PMID: 31253099; PMCID: PMC6599376.

April 11, 2026
Katie Rizzolo: Dialysis Care for Undocumented Immigrants
We interview Katherine Rizzolo about her work with Lilia Cervantes on implementing policies to provide dialysis care in the undocumented immigrant population. We talk about how the experience of undocumented immigrants differs from those with citizenship without insurance, tools she used from implementation science in this work, the path to policy change in Colorado, and the role of implementation science in policy change. Ah, implementation science: making common sense and decency incredibly rigorous. Mentioned on today's show: Cervantes L, Rizzolo K, Tummalapalli SL, Wainstein M, Glasgow RE, Jolles MP. Use of a Context- and Equity-Focused Implementation Science Framework to Aid the Design of Clinical Trials. J Am Soc Nephrol. 2025 Jun 1;36(6):1197-1200. doi: 10.1681/ASN.0000000633. Epub 2025 Jan 17. PMID: 39823190; PMCID: PMC12147963. Cervantes L. Dialysis in the Undocumented: Driving Policy Change with Data. J Hosp Med. 2020 Aug;15(8):502-504. doi: 10.12788/jhm.3319. PMID: 31891561; PMCID: PMC7518140. Nilsen, P. Making sense of implementation theories, models and frameworks. Implementation Sci 10, 53 (2015). https://doi.org/10.1186/s13012-015-0242-0 Proctor EK, Powell BJ, Baumann AA, Hamilton AM, Santens RL. Writing implementation research grant proposals: ten key ingredients. Implement Sci. 2012 Oct 12;7:96. doi: 10.1186/1748-5908-7-96. PMID: 23062065; PMCID: PMC3541090. Rizzolo K, Ressalam J, Robledo K, et al. Participant Experiences in a Kidney Failure Care Intervention in the Navigate-Kidney Study. JAMA Netw Open. 2025;8(11):e2548506. doi:10.1001/jamanetworkopen.2025.48506
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