✨We’re Emilie and Ashlie, two sisters attending different churches in Utah, building bridges across belief systems. Through podcasts, church visits, events, and honest conversations, we explore what faith, spirituality, and community look like for people from all paths. No pressure to convert, no need to persuade - just space to belong, be seen, and grow with curiosity and love.♥️
Hosts Emilie and Ashlie interview Casey McFarland of Reliq Travel about sacred history, myth, and geography on an upcoming tour of Greece.
19 Mar 2026
S3 E55: LIVE Event, Becoming Sovereign: Claiming Your Story, Honoring Your Agency, and Building the Beloved Community
Recorded live at the Compass Gallery, this episode captures the "Becoming Sovereign" event hosted by That’s Church. We dive deep into the theological and practical aspects of sovereignty—defining it not as separation, but as "sacred self-authorship."
What You’ll Hear in This Episode:
Emilie Call & Anne Pimentel: An opening on the spiritual gift of women carrying one another’s burdens and the mission of That's Church.
Rebecca Young: A guided meditation on the "Sovereign Mormon" and the interconnectedness of God's children.
Amy Watkins Jensen: On the "premise of flourishing," using the examples of Oprah and Queen Esther to illustrate obedience to a personal divine call.
Maxine Hanks: A deep dive into the theology of agency and the paradox of maintaining a private relationship with God while navigating the social path of belonging.
McArthur Krishna: The "How-To" of sovereignty—starting before you're ready, embracing discomfort, and the power of teaching sovereignty to the next generation.
Key Quotes:
"When individual women flourish, whole communities thrive." — Amy Watkins Jensen
"Sovereignty is both the right and the responsibility to use our divine agency to bring forth our divinity." — Maxine Hanks
"If you can’t practice sovereignty on your own behalf, you can certainly teach it." — McArthur Krishna
23 Feb 2026
S3: E54: Naked Pastor - The Slow Melt: Deconstructing your Theological Hard Drive with David Hayward
Episode Overview
How do you find spiritual independence after 30 years behind the pulpit? David Hayward (The NakedPastor) joins Emilie and Ashlie to discuss the "slow melt" of deconstruction, the power of art to bypass our defenses, and how to find community when you’ve left the "furnace of fellowship" behind.
Key Highlights
• The Growth Rings: Why your religious past is an essential part of your story, not something to be ashamed of.
• The Wheel of Oneness: A visual guide to why the closer we get to the "truth," the more we realize we are all connected.
• Challenging the Patriarchy: Why David’s feminist art often triggers the most controversy and why he refuses to stop drawing it.
• Life After Church: Navigating the loneliness of leaving and learning that you don't have to be an "open book" to everyone to find real friends.
Resources & Links
• David’s Website: nakedpastor.com (https://nakedpastor.com)
• Online Community: The Lasting Supper
• Book Mentioned: The Liberation of Sophia by David Hayward
• Follow David: @nakedpastor (https://www.instagram.com/nakedpastor) on Instagram
Connect With Us
• Instagram: @thatschurch (https://www.google.com/search?q=https://www.instagram.com/thatschurch)
• Website: thatschurch.org (https://www.google.com/search?q=https://thatschurch.org)
[…] And they make their own wine up there. They keep it like it's so neat and immaculate. But it's a living monastery. There's still monks up there doing their thing. There's six of them still. And they used to only until the last hundred years, you could only get there where they have pulleys you can still see. And they would put priests in baskets and bring them up on a pulley system. Like hundreds of... You can Google it. Google maybe you're a priest in baskets, pulley, or whatever. And you can see where they would raise them up. Because they built the monasteries up high for protection. Partly from the Ottomans, partly from... just invaders and that sort of thing. […]
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