New podcast webloSocial movement photographer Brooke Anderson in conversation with the artists and cultural workers in the SF Bay Area and beyond who make our movements relentlessly creative and irresistibly fly, who root our actions in the wisdom of our elders and ancestors, and who create and defend culture to hold us and future generations through the best and the hardest of times. In each episode, we explore the idea ”If it’s not soulful, it’s not strategic,” a pillar of Movement Generation’s just transition framework. Find us on IG at @ThatsHowTheLightGetsIn @MovementPhotographer @MovementGeneration
Episode 13: Mateo Nube of Los Nadies & Movement Generation
In this episode, I speak with a dear friend of mine, Mateo Nube of the band Los Nadies, which just released a new album, “Tiempo de Desembarcar,” on El Cerrito Records in August.
Mateo is also a Co-Director at Movement Generation Justice and Ecology Project and a brilliant political strategist and popular educator on ecology and just transition.
In the episode, we talk Mateo’s experience growing up under dictatorship in Bolivia but being surrounded by revolutionary women, activists, and artists; the defense of truth as a way to defend against the scrambling of reality under authoritarianism; culture and music as intimacy and collective ecstasy; being creators not just consumers of culture; and the non-negotiability of our dignity.
Throughout the episode, we play clips from Los Nadies’ new album and from their recent album release party.
Find Los Nadies online at losnadies.com or on IG at @MusicaLosNadies.
20 Jan 2025
Episode 12: Mamas for a Free Palestine
This week, I share a conversation I had at the end of last year with Michelle Mascarenhas and Lisa Juachon of Mamas for a Free Palestine. We talk about the role of movement mamas, aunties, matriarchs - really folks of all genders - who play that role in our communities of deeply embodying the James Baldwin quote about all of the children are all of our children, holding life sacred, moving in ways that recognize the interconnectedness of all life, and centering care for each other. Lisa and Michelle talk about the importance, in this moment in particular, of organizing as sectors of society - of finding your people, your crew, your squad and rolling together, not just in the streets, but in really identifying what the needs are in your community and meeting those needs in ways that contest for power.
Follow them on IG at @DefeatFascism24. Lisa can be found at @Diwangalon and Michelle at @Michelle4JT.
Please consider supporting the podcast by joining the Patreon at patreon.com/thatshowthelightgetsinpodcast and following us on IG at @ThatsHowTheLightGetsInPodcast.
A transcript for this episode is available online. To access it, visit https://linktr.ee/thatshowthelightgetsinpodcast and scroll down to “Transcripts."
27 Nov 2024
Episode 11: Patty Berne of Sins Invalid talks "Stages of Grief: Crip Hearts on Fire."
Patty Berne of Sins Invalid discusses disability justice, reorienting economies based on care, and the sacred power of complex bodies in 'Stages of Grief: Crip Hearts on Fire'.
14 Nov 2024
Episode 10: "Sumud: Resistance Until Liberation" mural artists and organizers Jackie Romero and Nathaniel Moore
This week, I’m joined by two of the many artists and organizers behind the "Sumud: Resistance Until Liberation” mural in Oakland, CA — Jackie Romero of the Palestinian Youth Movement and Nathaniel Moore of the Freedom Archives. We also hear audio from incarcerated artist Kevin Cooper, who contributed a piece to the mural from Death Row.
In the words of the mural organizers “In both the U.S. and Palestine, creating art is often a political act and a testament to the imagination, brilliance, and creativity of people’s resistance to oppression, even behind bars. At this time, as death and destruction rain down on the people of Gaza and Palestine, painting this mural together as a community can affirm our collective commitment to resistance and liberation.”
You can see each panel of the Sumud mural and read the artists’ statements at SumudMuralOakland.org. To donate, go to the website and click DONATE or google “GoFundMe Sumud Mural.”
On Instagram, if you can find the mural at @sumudmuralproject. You can find Jackie at @graciashabibti and PYM at @bayareapym and @PalestinianYouthMovement. You can learn more about Kevin Cooper’s case at freekevincooper.org
And, of course, you can find this podcast on IG at @ThatsHowTheLightGetsInPodcast and you can find me, Brooke Anderson, at @MovementPhotographer.
After donating to the mural, if you have funds remaining, please consider supporting the podcast by joining the Patreon at patreon.com/thatshowthelightgetsinpodcast.
10 Oct 2024
Episode 09: Annnnnd... we're back!
Brooke is joined in conversation by Movement Generation's Angela Aguilar as the two moderate a panel on culture shift at an MG retreat. Brooke speaks to what it means to come back to podcasting after a 6+ month hiatus. Brooke and Angela riff on this idea that all economies - all ways of managing home - from extractive to liberatory, create a culture which makes it make sense for people to participate in the economy. And so, our task - as organizers and revolutionaries - is to create the culture that that helps build a regenerative economy, one that is grounded in collective care, cooperation, regeneration, and reverence for the web of life. Join the Patreon at https://patreon.com/thatshowthelightgetsinpodcast
28 Mar 2024
Episode 08: Photojournalist David Bacon
One of my most significant mentors and photographic collaborators, my dear friend and comrade David Bacon, joins me in conversations this week. David came up as a union organizer with the United Farm Workers and United Electrical Workers, then spent decades as a photographer, photojournalist, labor reporter, and radio host covering labor, migration, and global economy. In this week’s episode, we talk David’s journey from organizer to photojournalist, his early influences, the role of movement photographers, the importance of media workers taking collective action to support their labor rights, journalists speaking out to support a ceasefire in Gaza, and advice for new photographers developing their photographic practice. Find David on IG at @DavidBacon and at http://dbacon.igc.org (http://dbacon.igc.org/).
8 Mar 2024
Episode 07: Arts organizers David Solnit & Gemma Searle
Bay Area arts organizers David Solnit and Gemma Searle with the Climate Justice Arts Project share their process for making giant murals, banners, puppets, screen printed patches and posters, and projections for the movement.
We trace David’s decades long direct-action organizing and art-making history from anti-war and anti-nuke organizing to migrant farmworkers to he and Gemma’s current collaborations with communities on the frontlines of climate chaos and in support for mobilizations in the street for a Free Palestine. Gemma also gives me a quick screen printing tutorial and shares her work to make an accessible arts lending library and archive movement history through preserving movement art.
Find David on IG at @DavidSolnit. Find Gemma at an art build!
The art making kits referenced in this episode can be found at:
bit.ly/arttoendfossilfuels (http://bit.ly/arttoendfossilfuels)
bit.ly/ceasefireart (http://bit.ly/ceasefireart)
You can find David’s books at:
http://www.citylights.com/book/?GCOI=87286100654030 (http://www.citylights.com/book/?GCOI=87286100654030)
https://couragetoresist.org/army-of-none-the-book/ (https://couragetoresist.org/army-of-none-the-book/)
https://www.akpress.org/battleofseattleakpress.html (https://www.akpress.org/battleofseattleakpress.html)
29 Feb 2024
Episode 06: Beehive Design Collective
The Beehive Design Collective’s Sakura Saunders and Orion Camero share about the Callegory, a Beehive sister project and mega-story trilogy of images and creative education campaign about California’s social and climate crises, and the state’s role in global justice.
The Beehive Collective is best known for its expansive narrative graphic posters and related campaigns that break down big complex issues and present them in accessible, engaging formats. Their incredibly intricate, hand-drawn illustrations become popular education tools to support ongoing organizing and movement building.
This episode also includes an update about the artists who altered their work live, in public at the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts in support of a #Ceasefire in Palestine.
Find the Beehive Design Collective on IG at @BeehiveDesignCollective at the Callegory at @TheCAllegory.
You can sign a letter to support the YBCA artists’ demands at bit.ly/artists4gaza, and read the YBCA staff solidarity statement at bit.ly/YBCA4gaza.
22 Feb 2024
Episode 05: YBCA Bay Area Now 9 Artists for #Ceasefire
Last week, eight artists featured in the “Bay Area Now 9” exhibit at the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts altered their own artistic works live during a public YBCA show to speak out against the art institution’s silence on the on-going genocide in Palestine and to demand an end to YBCA’s censorship of artists calling for a #Ceasefire in Gaza. On this week’s episode, we speak to two of those artists, Iranian-born interdisciplinary sound artist Sholeh Asgary and queer Filipinx artist, filmmaker, and educator champoy about why they chose to take such bold action against YBCA and in support of a free Palestine, how they hope their action emboldens other artists, and how the public can support the artists’ demands. We also listen in to a few moments at YBCA, including a speech from Palestinian muralist Chris Gazaleh.
You can find the artists whose voices you hear on this podcast on IG at @sholehasgary, @champchampchampoy, and @c.gazaleh. We also reference quotes from artists @Kilns and @Bluekaza.
Send an email to YBCA to support the artists’ demands here: https://actionnetwork.org/letters/tell-ybca-stop-censoring-art-for-palestine (https://actionnetwork.org/letters/tell-ybca-stop-censoring-art-for-palestine)
13 Feb 2024
Episode 04: Korean Pyungmul Drummers
Korean pyungmul drummers Liz Suk and Jaeeun Jun shared about the informal group of Bay Area drummers rooted in the former Korean Youth Cultural Center, Jaemaesori, Ieumsae, and other Korean drumming groups who come together to offer collaborative music and beats in the spirit of liberation from the tradition of Korean folk drumming called pyungmul. Along the way, they talk about the parallels between the Nakba and on-going occupation of Palestine with the war on the Korean Peninsula, and the militarization, borders, and forced displacement and separation of Korean families. They also offer an incredible reflection on how cultural work offered in street protests can go from being a transactional energy drain to a shared expression of our hopes for collective liberation.
6 Feb 2024
Episode 03: Boomshake Music
Boomshake Music's Mitali Purkayastha and Nicole Zapata discuss the legendary women, trans, and gender non-conforming BIPOC street protest drumming crew. Along the way, they share the legacy of Boomshake’s former-musical-director / now-ancestor, teacher auntie Monica Hastings Smith and how Boomshake publicly and unapologetically grieved such a sudden, enormous loss of their leader, and what role art, music, and cultural work plays in helping us make sense of our grief. We also talked about culture as a tool to show up as our authentic selves in a world hell-bent on compartmentalization, how Boomshake integrates ancestral rhythms and musical traditions into their music making from New Orleans to Brazil to Palestine, how music can create safety for children in street protests, and of course, we asked them teach us a few Boomshake chants/rhythms!
Mentioned on the pod:
Boomshake: http://www.boomshakemusic.com (http://www.boomshakemusic.com/)
Boomshake on IG: @BoomshakeMusic
Palestinian Debke group on IG: @aljuthoor.dabke
30 Jan 2024
Episode 02: Movement Generation
Movement Generation Justice & Ecology Project collective members, Angela Aguilar and Quinton Sankofa discuss MG’s just transition principle, “If it’s not soulful, it’s not strategic.” In the process, they talk about talk everything from the Black Panther Party to the Zapatistas and from mass movements for a ceasefire in Palestine to land stewardship and radical imagination.
Mentioned on the pod:
MG’s just transition zine: https://movementgeneration.org/justtransition/ (https://movementgeneration.org/justtransition/)
"Zapantera Negra: An artistic encounter between the Black Panthers and the Zapatistas”: https://www.commonnotions.org/zapantera-negra-updated (https://www.commonnotions.org/zapantera-negra-updated)
MG’s Creative Wildfire program: https://creativewildfire.org/ (https://creativewildfire.org/)
City of Ghosts: https://www.netflix.com/title/80994664 (https://www.netflix.com/title/80994664)
African Camp Fire Stories: https://shows.acast.com/african-camp-fire-stories (https://shows.acast.com/african-camp-fire-stories)
Leah Penniman: https://www.soulfirefarm.org/leah-penniman/ (https://www.soulfirefarm.org/leah-penniman/)
Sins Invalid: https://www.sinsinvalid.org/ (https://www.sinsinvalid.org/)
23 Jan 2024
Episode 01: Welcome!
Welcome to "That's how the light gets in," where we’ll will be interviewing artists and cultural workers here in the Bay Area and beyond who make our movements shine, who root our actions in the wisdom of our elders and ancestors, and who create and defend culture to hold us and future generations through the best and the hardest of times.
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