Welcome to That’s Not What That Means—a podcast where miscommunication meets marriage, faith, and everything in between. Hosted by Aaron and Olyvia, married over 20 years, each episode features funny stories, honest conversations, and awkward moments as they explore misunderstandings in relationships, the Bible, and life. Inspired by Aaron’s knack for using the wrong words and song lyrics (and Olyvia’s refusal to let it go), they’re not experts—just two people who love Jesus, love each other, and are figuring it out one talk at a time. Listen, follow and share. New episodes out weekly!
Nobody hands you a manual for taking care of yourself as an adult. And honestly, based on how we've been doing it, that tracks. In this episode, Aaron and Olyvia get real about their very different, very complicated relationships with doctors, medicine, and everything in between.
Olyvia will schedule every appointment but has a prescription that's been waiting at the pharmacy longer than she'd like to admit (though she did used to carry around a bag of pills for every possible situation just in case). Aaron would rather ask questions than take something he doesn't fully trust. Mostly because he's not entirely convinced "the man" isn't making us sick on purpose.
They're not anti-medicine. They're not anti-doctor. But they do believe in knowing what you're putting in your body, listening to what your body is telling you, and asking the questions nobody seems to want you to ask.
15 Jul 2026
PSO President
What started as just wanting to be involved somehow turned into running the whole operation. In this episode, Aaron and Olyvia get honest about what it really means to be an involved parent. The volunteering, the carpools, the group texts, the concession stands, and the moment you realize you've accidentally become essential.
Olyvia went from volunteer mom to basically vice principal. Aaron walked in late and somehow walked out nominated for PSO President. There were nachos. There were snacks. There was a soccer game that got a little out of hand.
If your calendar looks like a corporate executive's but nobody is paying you, this one's for you. Because somewhere between the parking lot pickups and the late night drives home, this is actually where the good stuff happens.
New episodes every week. Follow, subscribe, and share with the parent who just got added to another group text they didn't ask for.
18 Feb 2026
You Won
In this episode, we dive into our story. From our awkward first encounters to the first time we said “I love you"... sort of. We talk about friendship before romance, the time Olyvia ghosted Aaron when things got weird, and how he somehow remembers everything wrong.
Plus, we celebrate the little wins in our family life, like Aaron taking the girls on their own daddy-daughter dates. Get ready for laughs, honesty, and a few “Wait… that’s not how it happened!” moments.
11 Feb 2026
Eugene Young
Olyvia and Aaron unpack what it’s like being married with wildly different TV taste. Olyvia’s world of reality TV and cult documentaries versus Aaron’s “boy shows” full of crime, spies, and serious soundtracks. They talk about the shows they obsess over together, the nights they stay up way too late because “just one more episode,” and how those shared shows slowly turn into a whole language. Inside jokes, borrowed personalities, and quotes that make zero sense to anyone else. If you and your people communicate primarily in TV references, this one’s for you.
14 Jan 2026
In To W
We’re back! Season Two of That’s Not What That Means kicks off with chaos, confessions, and a teenager behind the wheel.
As our oldest starts learning how to drive, we take a hilarious look back at how we learned. Olyvia admits she’s still not exactly a good driver, while Aaron realizes he might be… slightly distracted behind the wheel.
Buckle up, Season Two is officially rolling.
16 Jul 2025
Chicka-Flay
Are they best friends? Do they switch places? Can we tell them apart?
In this episode, we sit down with our identical twin daughters to talk about what actually comes with twin life — from the weird questions strangers ask to the reality of sharing everything (including the spotlight).
We also get real about what it’s like being twin parents — the good, the hard, the hilarious — and why “two-for-one” isn’t exactly the deal people think it is.
If you’ve ever said, “I’ve always wanted twins!” … this one’s for you.
11 Jul 2025
The Thing
Four kids, one dog, and a multi-state move — what could go wrong?
In this episode, our friends Luke and Kimber join us to talk about what it’s like to follow God with open hands… and a packed SUV. From Phoenix to Mississippi, they drove through chaos, car snacks, and crazy roadside attractions — all while chasing a call to something new.
We talk about obedience, flexibility, and how many bathroom stops are too many. Whether you’re in a season of transition or just trying to survive a road trip with your family, this one’s for you.
2 Jul 2025
Aristocrats
Hosts Olyvia and Aaron discuss how their contrasting travel styles impact their marriage, revealing the challenges and humorous moments of vacationing together as a couple.
25 Jun 2025
Florida Man
Social justice advocate Bis-Kit discusses the meaning of being valuable in a world that often measures worth by productivity or status, addressing ICE policies and cultural bias in this interview episode.
18 Jun 2025
Sports on mute
Olyvia and Aaron explore their initial fears and skepticism towards therapy, revealing unexpected benefits and strange experiences, including memory gaps and the emotional impact of watching sports on mute.
4 Jun 2025
Cross-eyed bear
Olyvia and Aaron discuss how unspoken frustrations escalate disagreements, revealing how past experiences influence emotional responses in marriage, in this interview episode.
28 May 2025
Check Gas or Nov
Hosts Olyvia and Aaron discuss the funny, quirky habits and surprising revelations that emerge in marriage, highlighting the unexpected moments that make the journey unique.
21 May 2025
You have met your match!
Being friendly doesn’t mean being friends with ALL the people. In this episode, we talk about why it’s okay (and sometimes healthy) not to be close with everyone — while still showing kindness and love. Aaron flips the script this time with a story about Olyvia's questionable word choice, and we unpack what it means to set boundaries without guilt.
14 May 2025
Poppin' Fresh
We’ve all heard it: “Don’t let the sun go down on your anger.” But does that mean every argument has to be resolved before bedtime—or else? In this episode, we unpack what that verse actually means, how it’s been misused in marriage advice, and share some real talk about late-night fights, and forced apologies. Plus, we discover Aaron's "new" favorite song, and why you'll definitely have trouble finding it on any streaming platform.
7 May 2025
In lieu of
In our very first episode, we’re diving into why this podcast exists — and it all started because Aaron kept using words wrong. But it goes deeper. We talk about what we thought marriage meant when we first got started, how miscommunication has shaped our relationship (and nearly broke it), and why learning to laugh has saved us more than once. Welcome to That’s Not What That Means!
5 May 2025
TNWTM Trailer
Welcome to That’s Not What That Means — the podcast where miscommunication meets marriage, Bible study, and real life. We’re Olyvia and Aaron, married 20 years, parents of three girls, and best friends who argue, laugh, and misunderstand each other on the regular.
This trailer gives you a taste of what to expect: stories from our life, Bible verses people quote wrong (yes, even us), and why Aaron thought “Aristocrats” was a family’s last name. We’ll talk faith, marriage, and all the funny, awkward, and meaningful ways we get things wrong — and what we’re learning in the middle of it all.
Subscribe now and get ready to rethink what you thought you knew. Because… that’s not what that means.
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