The Agile For Agilists Podcast is a side project for hosts Drew Podwal and Brad Nelson. They hold open discussions, share anecdotes, and provide guidance from their own personal experiences. Listeners can expect soap box moments, thinking out loud, and guest speakers, but most of all, listeners will leave with a better understanding of the complex world of Agile Software Development.

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The Agile For Agilists Podcast is a side project for hosts Drew Podwal and Brad Nelson. They hold open discussions, share anecdotes, and provide guidance from their own personal experiences. Listeners can expect soap box moments, thinking out loud, and guest speakers, but most of all, listeners will leave with a better understanding of the complex world of Agile Software Development.
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Recent Episodes

July 21, 2025
Your Brain on Agile: Practical Neuroscience with Alex Korb, PhD
<p>On this episode of The Agile for Agilists Podcast, Drew Podwal and Brad Nelson sit down with <strong>Dr. Alex Korb, PhD</strong>—neuroscientist, coach, and author of The Upward Spiral—to explore how your brain is wired, and how understanding that wiring can unlock better focus, performance, and well-being.</p><p>We dive into how <strong>autonomy</strong>, <strong>motivation</strong>, and <strong>neurotransmitters</strong> (like dopamine and serotonin) shape the way we work and lead. Dr. Korb explains why accepting how your brain naturally operates is essential to getting the most out of it—especially in high-stakes, fast-moving environments like Agile teams.</p><p>Whether you’re a coach, leader, or just a curious human, this conversation offers practical neuroscience insights that can help you work with your brain, not against it.</p><p>🧠 Learn more about Dr. Korb’s work at <a href="http://alexkorbphd.com" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">alexkorbphd.com</a></p>

May 27, 2025
An Agile Retrospective: Culture, Control, and Purpose with Todd Hallowell
Todd Hallowell discusses the current state of Agile, exploring the tension between traditional project management and true Agile thinking with hosts Drew Podwal and Brad Nelson in an interview.

April 22, 2025
Of Bears, Brains, and Building Trust with Mike Bowler
<p>In this episode of The Agile for Agilists Podcast, hosts Drew Podwal and Brad Nelson welcome seasoned Agile coach and trainer <strong>Mike Bowler</strong> to talk about <strong>psychological safety</strong>—through the fascinating lens of <strong>brain science, leadership, hypnosis, and LEGO</strong>.</p><p>Mike explains why our brains are wired to react to uncertainty like it’s a bear attack—and what leaders can do to create environments that feel safe rather than threatening. We also explore the power of play, including Mike’s training in LEGO Serious Play and how it unlocks new thinking in teams.</p><p>From primal instincts to psychological insights, this conversation is a journey into what makes us human at work—and how we can lead with more understanding, trust, and creativity.</p><p>Mike's follow-up page: <a href="https://gargoylesoftware.com/mike_bowler/followup/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://gargoylesoftware.com/mike_bowler/followup/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Specific topics we discussed:</p><p><a href="https://unconsciousagile.com/2024/01/14/polyvagal-theory.html" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Polyvagal theory</a></p><p><a href="https://unconsciousagile.com/2023/05/13/safety-model.html" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">SAFETY model</a></p><p><a href="https://unconsciousagile.com/2024/02/17/six-thinking-hats-retrospective.html" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Six Thinking Hats</a> </p><p><a href="https://unconsciousagile.com/2024/07/18/bear.html" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">The Bear and the Brain</a></p><p><a href="https://unconsciousagile.com/2019/06/21/anti-anxiety.html" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">The anti-anxiety toolkit</a></p><p><a href="https://unconsciousagile.com/2024/01/04/world-hypnosis-day.html" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">What really is hypnosis?</a></p><p><br></p><p>Bonus Links: </p><p><a href="https://unconsciousagile.com/2021/01/18/retrospective-magic.html" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Tips and tricks from neuroscience to improve your retros</a></p><p><a href="https://unconsciousagile.com/2021/06/13/recommended-reading.html" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Mike's Reading List</a></p>
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