Rowan's Notes is a podcast where The Rundown's founder, Rowan Cheung, interviews the people shaping the AI industry — breaking down what’s real vs hype and how to leverage it to get ahead in your life, work, and business.
Dharmesh Shah on AEO, AI Agents, and the ‘AI App Store’
Being early to SEO helped Dharmesh Shah build HubSpot into a $30B company. Now he's obsessed with something new: AI ranking. It's how to show up when people ask ChatGPT for recommendations instead of Googling. In this conversation, Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down with HubSpot Founder & CTO Dharmesh Shah (@dharmesh) to unpack: AEO (Answer Engine Optimization): SEO for the AI eraHow to structure content to get cited in AI answersThe hidden risk of low-quality AI contentEffectively us...
18 Nov 2025
Demis Hassabis on Gemini 3, Google Antigravity, Medical-grade AI, and more
Google just revealed Gemini 3.0 -- its most intelligent AI model yet with SOTA reasoning and 1501 Elo on the LMArena. In this exclusive conversation, Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down with Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis (@demishassabis) to unpack: Gemini 3 and Google’s AI strategyGoogle's new Antigravity toolMedical-grade AI and proactive healthcareThe skill of "learning how to learn" __ Join our daily AI newsletter: https://www.therundown.ai/subscribe Learn AI hands-on with our AI U...
7 Oct 2025
Sam Altman on Zero-Person AI Companies, Sora, AGI Breakthroughs, and more
OpenAI just unveiled HUGE developer updates at DevDay 2025 - Apps in ChatGPT, Agent Builder, Sora in the API, and Codex updates that can handle day-long tasks. In this exclusive conversation, Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down with OpenAI CEO Sam Altman (@sama) to unpack: Sam's Sora AI deepfakes going viralZero-person billion dollar companies run by agentsAI starting to make scientific discoveries on Twitter ChatGPT's 800M weekly users and the new distribution platform__ Join our dail...
18 Sept 2025
Mark Zuckerberg on AI Glasses, Superintelligence, Neural Control, and More
Meta just unveiled its latest AI glasses at Connect 2025 – including Ray-Ban's with a built-in display, controlled by a band that reads muscle signals. In this exclusive conversation, Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down with Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg (@zuck) to unpack: The timeline for glasses replacing smartphonesHow the Neural Band will personalize to you over timeBuilding "personal superintelligence" while raising kidsWhy Zuck rebuilt Meta's AI lab within 15 feet of his desk __ Join our ...
27 May 2025
Demis Hassabis on Curing Diseases with AI, Proactive Agents, AI Relationships, and more
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis discusses with Rowan Cheung how AI advancements could potentially cure diseases, impact education, and influence human relationships in this interview.
21 May 2025
Satya Nadella on AI Agents, Rebuilding the Web, the Future of Work, and more
Microsoft just revealed its next big AI bets at Build 2025 - from autonomous coding agents, Copilot Tuning, Windows AI Foundry, and more. In this exclusive conversation, Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down with Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella (@satyanadella) to unpack: -Microsoft’s vision for the “agentic web” -Why your next job might be AI agent manager -What happens when 95% of code is AI-generated -Where AI agents will create the most value first __ Join our daily AI newsletter: https://www...
11 Dec 2024
Demis Hassabis on Gemini 2.0, Project Astra, Agents, Gaming with Elon, and more
Demis Hassabis, CEO of Google DeepMind, shares insights on Google's entry into the AI agent era with Gemini 2.0, Project Astra, and Agents for gaming and web browsing.
5 Dec 2024
Mustafa Suleyman on Copilot Vision, AI Companions, Infinite Memory, AI Agents, and more
Mustafa Suleyman, CEO of Microsoft AI, joins Rowan Cheung to explore the groundbreaking capabilities of Copilot Vision, AI companions, and infinite memory in AI navigation.
24 Sept 2024
Logan Kilpatrick on Google’s new Gemini Models, AI Agents, AGI, and more
Google just released two upgraded Gemini 1.5 models 1.5-Pro-002 and 1.5-Flash-002 — achieving new, state-of-the-art performance across math benchmarks.Rowan Cheung (https://x.com/rowancheung) sat down with Logan Kilpatrick (https://x.com/OfficialLoganK), product lead for Google AI Studio, to discuss what makes these models so unique, AI agents, AGI, and more.Listen to the full interview on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQvMdmk8IkMTry the new models on Google AI Studio: https://shor...
12 Aug 2024
Mark Zuckerberg on Llama 3.1, Open Source, AI Agents, Safety, and more
Meta just released Llama 3.1 405B — the first-ever open-sourced frontier AI model, beating top closed models like GPT-4o across several benchmarks.Rowan Cheung (https://x.com/rowancheung) sat down with Mark Zuckerberg for an exclusive interview, diving into why this marks a significant moment in AI history.Find all the details about Llama 3.1 405B on Meta's official announcement page.Read our exclusive deep dive with the most important quotes here.__Join our daily AI newsletter: https://www.t...
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