The American Reformer Podcast’s mission is to promote a vigorous Christian approach to the cultural challenges of our day, rooted in the rich tradition of Protestant social and political thought. Focusing particularly on issues facing American Christians, we will seek to contribute to the reformation of Christian institutions that have become corrupted by false ideologies and practices.
Host Timon Cline interviews author Alex Kocman about the proper order of Christian love for family, church, and nation, offering insights into political theology and patriotism.
11 Dec 2025
Ministry to State (ft. George Sayour)
How can ministers of the gospel impact the state house? George Sayour of the PCA's Ministry to State in Tallahassee joins the show to discuss.
George Sayour, Senior Pastor at Meadowview Reformed Presbyterian Church since 2019, transitioned from a career in engineering to education and administration. He holds a Master of Divinity from Knox Theological Seminary and is involved in various ministries, including Ministry to State (MTS) which he joined in March 2025. Now in Tallahassee, George ministers to elected representatives as the State Capitol Minister for Florida.
Learn more about George Sayour's work:
https://meadowviewpca.org/profiles/george-sayour/
https://www.ministrytostate.org/post/george-sayour-joins-mts-as-state-capitol-minister-for-north-carolina
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3 Dec 2025
The Art of the Chimp (ft. Auron MacIntyre)
Auron MacIntyre joins the show to talk about intramural conflicts in the MAGA coalition.
Auron MacIntyre is the host of “The Auron MacIntyre Show” and a columnist for Blaze News. He offers thought-provoking and mold-breaking insights, drawing from the best political thinkers throughout history to make sense of our current political climate in a way that is easy to digest. He is Author of The Total State: How Liberal Democracies Become Tyrannies.
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https://www.theblaze.com/u/auronmacintyre
https://twitter.com/AuronMacintyre
https://www.regnery.com/9781684515585/the-total-state/
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Inside a recent episode
Ordered to Love (ft. Alex Kocman)
Published 26 May 2026 · Transcript excerpt
[…] And those are the noble occupations, right? Just as for a Roman Catholic, well, I'm not a priest, I'm not a nun, I'm not a monk. You know, I'm just an ordinary, you know, profane, as it were, you know, congregant. And we have to think in better categories than that. It's the same mistake that the person made, you know, famously and maybe apocryphally, but of thinking in Luther's ministry. Well, the way to make a Christian shoe is to write Bible verses on it or draw an Ichthus fish on it. No, the way to make a Christian shoe is to make a good shoe and to make the best shoe. And the same is true in our households. […]
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