

- 17
- Episodes
- 5
- Ratings
- Bi-weekly
- Cadence
- 2026
- First episode
About The Art of Making Friends
A podcast about friendship created by two friends for people that have friends and like making new ones.
- Publisher
- Lisa Biello
- Category
- comedy · society & culture
- Language
- en
- Explicit
- Yes
- First episode
- 13 Apr 2026
- Latest episode
- 12 Oct 2026
Latest episodes
17 episodes in the feed.

12 Oct 2026
S1E17 - Meet Heather: A Casual Work Affair Turned into an LTR
In this episode, we meet Lisa’s friend Heather – another casual work affair that turned into a long-term relationship (which seems to be a trend with beautiful ladies named Heather!) We dive into how they met, candidly discuss their age gap and the impact it has on their friendship (spoiler alert – it’s ZERO) and how to handle it when someone assumes Lisa is Heather’s mother. Watch the full episode on YouTube or www.theartofmakingfriends.com (http://www.theartofmakingfriends.com) for bonus video of Heather’s sick dance moves – you won’t be disappointed! And while your on YouTube, go ahead and subscribe! Heather tracked retro – you can find the suit here: https://link.amazon/B0hjMaQru (https://link.amazon/B0hjMaQru) Erin & Lisa tracked the double stripe – find it here: https://link.amazon/B0ioejreT (https://link.amazon/B0ioejreT) We are an Amazon Affiliate and may make a commission on qualified purchases, just fyi. We absolutely love doing this. We love our friends and we are always on the hunt for new ones! If you want to be on the show and our newest BF – send us a message! Thank you eternally for supporting us. Love, Erin & Lisa

28 Sept 2026
S1E16 - Meet Heather: Temp to Perm
DISCLAIMER: Lab and tissue talk not for weak stomachs. But aren’t you glad there are people willing to do this work? Let's all get weird with Erin's millennial friend, Heather! Heather is an impressively gifted histotechnologist who knows how to bring the fun to the most dismal of long work days. We talk a bit of shop about the laboratory world in which they met and then get into the heart of what defines friendship: absurd, laughter-fueled conversations about everything and mostly nothing at all. Friendship fills the voids in your life with laughter or tears, general nonsense and the overwhelming feeling of human connection and belonging. This week, we reference some of our other friends and badass suit recruits from earlier episodes... Hear about our dancing queen, Kim, in episode 15. Catch up with all things CC, who attended the same high school as Heather, in episode 11. Check out Greg and all his weird in episode 10. Heck, go all the way back to our Megasode episode 1 to hear how and why Lisa's Mookie painting is the patron saint of the pod. Need the OG tracksuit that Heather wore? https://link.amazon/B03Gt6FSu (https://link.amazon/B03Gt6FSu) Need to make a quick trip to the 80s in the tracksuit Erin &Lisa are rocking? https://link.amazon/B0b1FeriV (https://link.amazon/B0b1FeriV) We are an Amazon Affiliate and may make a commission on qualified purchases. Thank you for listening along and celebrating the humans who make life worth living. And, SMASH that SUBSCRIBE button on our YouTube channel!! #edbob XO Erin & Lisa

14 Sept 2026
S1E15 - Meet Kim: Proof That Bad Influences Can Create Beautiful Friendships
In this episode, we meet Lisa’s longest friend, Kim – both literally and chronologically! At 5’8”, she truly is Lisa’s longest friend…but she’s also the friend she’s had in her life the longest. Even with a lengthy break in their teens/early adulthood due to moving around and no technology in those days, Kim and Lisa kept finding each other and picking up right where they left off. They’ve been partners in crime, dance partners and, most importantly, partners in this beautiful thing we call friendship! #happydance Are you tall and need a tracksuit that doesn’t look like floods? https://link.amazon/B0dXhHkbm (https://link.amazon/B0dXhHkbm) Need the tracksuit that Erin & Lisa wore? https://link.amazon/B0hHU2OIE (https://link.amazon/B0hHU2OIE) We are an Amazon Affiliate and may make a commission on qualified purchases. As always, we thank you for your support and encourage you to make a new friend today! XO Erin & Lisa

31 Aug 2026
S1E14 - Meet Kate: A Personal Hero and National Damn Treasure
Please join us this week to meet Erin's superhero friend Col. Kate. Kate is a family medicine Army doc who can not only handle your diabetes and asthma, but also (shockingly) military grade firearms. Hear how Kate and Erin forged a friendship in the foxholes of early medical training and found a lifelong sisterhood based in love, service and lots of laughter. After 9/11 turned our world upside down in their last year of medical school, Kate made a decision that would initiate her deployment to Iraq and spark an entire medical career dedicated to the care of our deserving service members. It starts there and where it ends...well, there is just no way to know. But, listen to this week's episode to find out why you should go "zero to goat" on everything Col. Kate. We know that she will be your superhero, too. Watch the episode on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@TheArtofMakingFriends) to see some great old photos and while you are there, please SUBSCRIBE! If you need a tracksuit, go ahead and treat yoself!! https://amzn.to/3T6OFTk (https://amzn.to/3T6OFTk) We are an Amazon Affiliate and may make a commission on qualified purchases. As always, thank you for listening and being a valued member of our tribe. Erin & Lisa

17 Aug 2026
S1E13 - Meet Kayte: A Best Friend That Has a List of Reasons Why We Shouldn't Be Friends
In this episode, we meet Lisa’s friend Kayte – a deep and instant friendship forged by the love of Drumbeat Red and marked by initial assumptions, spontaneous (and borderline irrational) decisions, weaponized karaoke and why we are all much more confused than we are convinced. Although Kayte keeps a list of reasons why they shouldn’t be friends, sometimes a friendship that doesn’t appear to work on paper is exactly the friendship you need. Shout out to Selena for introducing them way back when! Tracksuits in this episode are the OG’s – found at https://amzn.to/4hEQ5hR (https://amzn.to/4hEQ5hR) and currently on sale! We are an Amazon Affiliate and may receive a commission on qualified purchases. And please don’t forget – when you watch the show on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@TheArtofMakingFriends) – make sure you SUBSCRIBE! It’s free, you know… Thank you for your support of this craziness we call celebrating friendship! XO Erin & Lisa

4 Aug 2026
S1E12 - Erin & Lisa: Celebrity BFF's
In this week's episode, Lisa and Erin discuss their celebrity "BFFs" and, along with our community's feedback, compile an enviable guest list to a party that...could happen? There is no way to know. A special shout out to our friend Starr, who suggested Jennifer Garner as her potential celebrity BFF and we....forgot! Welcome to middle age. Excellent suggestion, as our fake party is going to be potluck and Jennifer is a well-seasoned home cook. Keep the guest list going, get yourself a tracksuit and join our community! Track suit - https://amzn.to/4w9joNc (https://amzn.to/4w9joNc) We are an Amazon Affiliate and may make a commission on qualified purchases. As always, thank you for listening! Erin & Lisa

20 Jul 2026
S1E11 - Meet CC: The Real Boss
This week, we meet CC - aka Carolina, that's with an "EEEna" at the end - Erin and Greg's friend who hails all the way from Generation Z. She defies characterization and will frankly require you to listen to the episode! We discuss the dynamics of work, position, age and gender in the context of friendship. CC finds the fun and laughter in life, but also sees BS with a clarity that makes us proud. CC will surely make you proud of our newest members of the workforce and potentially spark some general interest in exploring new intergenerational friendships, whether older or younger! The OG tracksuit can be found here and it's on sale! https://amzn.to/44DwnLS (https://amzn.to/44DwnLS) We are an Amazon Affiliate and may make commission on qualified purchases. More at www.theartofmakingfriends.com (http://www.theartofmakingfriends.com) Thank you from the bottom of our tracksuits for listening and laughing with us. Erin & LIsa

6 Jul 2026
S1E10 - Meet Greg: From Friend Zone to End Zone
In this week’s Gregisode, we meet Greg. Well, more specifically, you meet Greg, because we both already know and love him. We learn how Greg and Erin met at the beginning of medical school, became friends, then eventually “more” as the insanity of their combined experience became funnier to them and stranger to those around them. As their friend Igor said when they started dating, “weird and weird don’t cancel each other out,” and no truer words have ever been spoken. While some unique photos have survived the late 1990-early 2000 technology chasm, imagine the relief of having zero photos of one’s engagement! We hope you enjoy the images that made it and the generally great hang that always ensues when these three little birds get together. Our apologies to nuns everywhere. You don’t really need any additional BS. Thanks to @kirven and Patrick and Leigh @dominio4 for their participation in this courtship. Check out Patrick and Leigh’s delicious wine or visit their vineyard and tasting room in Hood River and McMinnville, Oregon! Greg's incredible tracksuit can be found here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DC6914SZ?_encoding=UTF8&th=1&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DC6914SZ?_encoding=UTF8&th=1&psc=1) Erin and Lisa's tracksuit is here: https://amzn.to/4fk0Qo2 (https://amzn.to/4fk0Qo2) We are an Amazon Affiliate and may make a commission on qualified purchases. As always, thank you for listening and spreading the gospel of The Art of Making Friends podcast! Erin & Lisa

22 Jun 2026
S1E9 - Meet Mark: Best Friend Turned Brother
In Episode 9 we meet Mark – Lisa’s best friend from high school that turned into a brother. They discuss the hilarious social hierarchy of their very small school, the validity of platonic male/female friendships, how his amazing parents welcomed Lisa into their family and how a 25-year gap in their friendship did nothing to destroy their incredible bond. Pro tip – Watch this episode for some AMAZING senior pictures! Special shout outs to @dmcoback – Mark’s amazing wife, Dawn – and @wheelofawesome band! Want Lisa & Erin’s tracksuit? https://amzn.to/4esQjVW (https://amzn.to/4esQjVW) Want Mark’s tracksuit? Top - https://amzn.to/4uMjw4j (https://amzn.to/4uMjw4j) Bottoms - https://amzn.to/4g0dXMa (https://amzn.to/4g0dXMa) We are an Amazon Affiliate and may make a commission on qualified purchases. Watch the full episode now on www.theartofmakingfriends.com (http://www.theartofmakingfriends.com) and from there you can find us on YouTube, Spotify, Amazon and Apple. Thank you for watching, listening and spreading the gospel of The Art of Making Friends! Erin & Lisa

8 Jun 2026
S1E8 - Erin & Lisa: The Business of Movies
In the 8th episode, Erin and Lisa have their first official “business” meeting – and segue into talking about things they have no business talking about – movies about friendship. Cause the thing is – they are both basically movie illiterates. Yeah, this episode is a real doozy! Editor’s Note – Shawshank Redemption came out in 1994 and at its core, is deeply about the friendship between Andy and Red. The film argues that human connection can survive even the bleakest of environments. We all agree it is an amazing movie!! So, what are some of the movies about friendship that we missed? Drop them in the comments. Looking for the 80’s tracksuit? We got you. https://amzn.to/4vs3FbQ (https://amzn.to/4vs3FbQ) We are an Amazon Affiliate and may make a commission on qualified purchases. Watch the full episode now on www.theartofmakingfriends.com (http://www.theartofmakingfriends.com) and from there you can find us on YouTube, Spotify, Amazon and Apple. Thank you for watching, listening and spreading the gospel of The Art of Making Friends! Erin & Lisa

25 May 2026
S1E7 - Meet Paul: A Real Pop of Color
In Episode 7, we meet Lisa’s longtime friend, Paul – a former radio industry colleague turned BFF for life. Join us as we reminisce about records Lisa wouldn’t add into rotation, the ingrown toenail incident, Paul’s need for a pop of color and his never-ending obsession with The Strokes. And perhaps it will inspire you to reach out to the friend that has been a real pop of color in your life! Shout out to honorable mentions - Gary Gorman, Joe DeAngelis and WEQX – much, much love. Erin & Lisa went rogue and wore pajamas! You need these in your life. We promise. https://amzn.to/4wOvBbo (https://amzn.to/4wOvBbo) We are an Amazon Affiliate and may make a commission on qualified purchases.

11 May 2026
S1E6 - Meet Alexis: Shoots, Ladders and the Game of Life
In this week’s episode, we meet Alexis, Erin’s friend (for over 40 years) and an ally to all canines (for life). In addition to a lesson on animal taxonomy from Lisa, we share lots of laughs, memories, and the silver linings of a life filled with wins, losses and abundant love. If you are willing and able to hold on for the ride, lifelong friendships steadily become the foundation for all of your other adventures and challenges. As our post-Mother’s Day episode, a special recognition to Erin’s Mom, who has not only loved her daughters, but extended that love to their friends, too. It takes a village. Love you, JeanO. Shoutout to True Training Studio for welcoming all-comers to her exhausting yet positive community…even if she makes us lift heavy things - including a baby or two. We suffer and succeed together. Get the tracksuit here! https://amzn.to/4fky9rs (https://amzn.to/4fky9rs) We are an Amazon Affiliate and may make a commission on qualified purchases. www.theartofmakingfriends.com (http://www.theartofmakingfriends.com)

27 Apr 2026
S1E5 - Meet Todd: Re Todd
In this episode, we talk with Todd - a dermatopathologist, husband, father, friend, ally and Erin’s former business partner. For about 15 years, Todd and Erin voluntarily imprisoned themselves in a laboratory diagnosing patients with skin cancers and other cutaneous disorders, a fact that has undoubtedly contributed to their friendship, cumulative weirdness and general predilection for silliness. Their business journey was fueled by willpower, whiskey (only after hours!) and a few warts along the way. We hope you enjoy the discussion as much as Denise, Erin’s dog, very vocally does throughout the episode. F**king Todd! Show note: Todd’s shadow boxes were made in Nampa, Idaho, and not the Yukon Territory. #MadeInUSA

14 Apr 2026
S1E3 - Erin & Lisa: Go Deep or Go Home
Erin & Lisa play the game, "Let's Get Deep" and pick three cards to ask each other...one Icebreaker, one Deep and one Deeper card. Needless to say...it gets pretty depthy. Amazing Tracksuit - https://amzn.to/3OdATvI (https://amzn.to/3OdATvI) Let's Get Deep - https://amzn.to/4bYQ2sE (https://amzn.to/4bYQ2sE) Footie Pajamas - https://amzn.to/4v9BCin (https://amzn.to/4v9BCin) We are an Amazon Affiliate and may make a small commission on qualified purchases. And lastly, if you'd like to learn more about Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, please visit www.ehlers-danlos.com (http://www.ehlers-danlos.com). It's an amazing resource and we are all about promoting awareness for both the public and the medical community. THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING THE PODCAST - WE LOVE YOU! Erin & Lisa

14 Apr 2026
S1E2 - Meet Janelle: Another Girl Erin Picked Up In a Bar
In this episode, we meet Janelle - a fellow ginger Erin met at a bar on Block Island. We fact checked the stats and less than 2% of the world's population has natural red hair, making it the rarest hair color in the world - so the chances of these two beauties meeting on a small island off the coast of Rhode Island we have inaccurately calculated to be a bazillion to one. Shout out to Damian Cartier (www.damiancartier.net (http://www.damiancartier.net)) and The Andrew Brothers Dueling Pianos (www.theandrewbrothers.com (http://www.theandrewbrothers.com)) T his episode is loaded with shit you need to know. Literally.

14 Apr 2026
S1E1 - Meet Erin & Lisa
This MEGASODE is four stories in one - how we met, our trip to Iceland, why Mookie Betts is on the wall and why we wear tracksuits. It’s our friendship love story from 2004 to today and we hope you find it as ridiculous as we do. Let’s suit up, sit down and celebrate the gift of friendship together. www.theartofmakingfriends.com (http://www.theartofmakingfriends.com)

13 Apr 2026
S1E4 - Meet Sarah: The Oprah of Indiana
In this episode, we meet Sarah - the first Suit Recruit for Lisa and also a best friend (and former sister-in-law!) who brings people together at a place casually referred to as "the Lake" where both shenanigans and magical moments happen - and pictures of boobs go horribly awry. www.theartofmakingfriends.com (http://www.theartofmakingfriends.com) Want the tracksuit? https://amzn.to/4crdvDd (https://amzn.to/4crdvDd) We are an Amazon Affiliate and may make a small commission of qualified purchases.
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