The Atlas Rose Podcast

About The Atlas Rose Podcast

The Atlas Rose Podcast is where small business owners and leaders come to cut through the noise of marketing confusion and finally get clarity on what works. Hosted by Branden O’Neil, alongside Randi Beth Burton and Monica Spieles, each episode tackles the real frustrations business owners face—plateaus, and wasted dollars on silver-bullet tactics. What You’ll Hear on the Show Straight talk about broken marketing practices—why social media isn’t a silver bullet, how marketing lost its seat in the boardroom, and why one-size-fits-all campaigns fail. Actionable frameworks and methodology that let you fix problems once, instead of reinventing the wheel. Stories from the trenches, drawing on Atlas Rose’s work across industries and the lessons learned from both wins and problem clients. Entertaining, candid conversation that feels like sitting at the table with trusted advisors—complete with humor, real-life analogies, and practical takeaways.

Publisher

Atlas Rose

Category

business

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

2 Sept 2025

Latest episode

22 Jul 2026

Latest episodes

12 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   22 Jul 2026

   The Client Conversation Most Fractional CMOs Are Missing

   Jen Singer scaled a company 7x to a $35 million acquisition in under two years. She drove $14 million in new revenue after that deal closed. She co-founded the golf lounge Avid Caddie from scratch and built it into a 160-member community. However, she doesn’t call herself a CMO. Jen’s take is that marketing tactics don't scale a company, but strategy, values, and a steady system does. Marketing works as one lever inside that machine, but it’s not the whole engine. Jen runs Blueprint to Bold, her own fractional practice for small businesses and founder-led teams, and in this episode, she joins Randi Beth, Monica, and Branden to talk about how to position yourself as a growth partner. They get into how to have the “CMO vs. tactician” conversation with an owner in a way that builds understanding and doesn’t get misinterpreted as upselling. They also outline why defining a company's core values early is one of the most important moves you can make. Done right, it turns marketing from an abstract idea into a measurable strategy, translated into the same language that CEOs, CFOs, and COOs speak. Jen also reflects on working with small business owners who have never had a real strategic partner before. She unpacks how small businesses are exactly where a fractional CMO can make the biggest difference: we move fast, make a visible impact, and we’re willing to do the work of educating the client along the way. Episode Outline (05:44) How marketing earns its way back into the boardroom (15:14) Three questions that differentiate a fractional CMO from a marketing manager (19:54) Why small business owners don't need more tactics (and what they need instead) (27:06) "Strategy scales, and values are the framework for strategy." (34:56) A 90-minute process for defining a company's core values from scratch (47:26) The advantage of working with small business owners Additional Resources Learn more about becoming an Atlas Rose Licensed Fractional Marketer Connect with Jen Connect on LinkedIn Learn more about Avid Caddie Website More From Atlas Rose Learn more on the Atlas Rose website Follow Atlas Rose on LinkedIn Follow Branden on LinkedIn Follow Monica on LinkedIn Follow Randi Beth on LinkedIn Watch this episode on YouTube

2. 

   22 Jun 2026

   What Nobody Tells You About Scaling Your Business as a Fractional CMO

   Twenty years ago, when Chrissy Bernal's twins went viral, she had to learn PR in real time without a roadmap. That crash course became the foundation of Be a Better Brand, Chrissy’s personal branding agency helping business owners bridge the gap between what they've earned and what their position in the market. But building a career around highly custom, relationship-driven marketing offerings creates a challenge most practitioners never see coming: how do you take tailored services and package it into a structured, scalable fractional business? That's the work Chrissy is navigating now as an Atlas Rose Licensed Marketer. In this episode, she joins Randi Beth, Monica, and Branden to talk about the shift from being a solo practitioner to a business owner following a proven system for structure, delivery, and growth. Chrissy gets specific about what kept her playing small and the mindset switch that finally moved her forward. She also shares the invoicing lesson she learned the hard way and what happened when she finally made her first part-time hire. Episode Outline (01:48) How Chrissy went from managing a media firestorm to running a PR agency (09:43) How to keep building your own business when client work is at the forefront (17:55) The differences between a solo practitioner and fractional CMO (24:21) How hiring a VA led two new clients in the same month (28:22) Taking the first step into positioning yourself as a fractional CMO (35:12) Using emotional intelligence to filter clients before they cost you (46:58) Advice for getting paid in full and on time Additional Resources Buy Back Your Time by Dan MartellWho Not How by Dan SullivanTime as a Tool by Dr. Ben Hardy and Blake EriksenLearn more about becoming an Atlas Rose Licensed Fractional Marketer Connect with Chrissy Connect on LinkedIn Website More From Atlas Rose Learn more on the Atlas Rose website Follow Atlas Rose on LinkedIn Follow Branden on LinkedIn Follow Monica on LinkedIn Follow Randi Beth on LinkedIn Watch this episode on YouTube

3. 

   1 May 2026

   Customer Intimacy - Tell Us More...

   “We’re not doing marketing.” Raise your hand if you’ve ever heard a small business owner say that 🙋 Even if you’re not “doing” marketing, every email you send, every sales call you make – really, every touchpoint with a prospect or customer…that’s all marketing. The question isn’t whether you’re marketing, but it’s whether or not you’re doing it intentionally. David Cross spent years at P&G and Coca-Cola, ran marketing for private equity-backed B2B companies, and co-founded a startup that sold to a top 20 US healthcare system. These days, he's building his own practice as an Atlas Rose Licensed Fractional Marketer. In this episode, he joins Randi Beth, Monica, and Branden to talk about the marketing gaps in small businesses and ways to get it right. They dig into the three factors that make or break a successful marketing strategy: knowing your customer, using data to make decisions, and effective execution. Marketing is both an art and a science, but most businesses tip the scales one way or the other. This episode unpacks how to balance both, and why every business, no matter the size, deserves to get there. Episode Outline (02:34) What moves the marketing needle across every industry and company size (07:18) How to spot (and start to fix) a broken marketing program (14:32) The "task at hand" exercise: how David earns trust in the first meeting (26:58) Coaching small business owners through marketing imposter syndrome (30:36) Three ways to define marketing that change how you run your business (36:19) How to test your way forward and break out of the perfectionism loop (38:44) Establishing core values vs. key differentiators (45:33) Building a sustainable fractional practice with community support Additional Resources Learn more about becoming an Atlas Rose Licensed Fractional Marketer Connect with David Connect on LinkedIn More From Atlas Rose Learn more on the Atlas Rose website Follow Atlas Rose on LinkedIn Follow Branden on LinkedIn Follow Monica on LinkedIn Follow Randi Beth on LinkedIn Watch this episode on YouTube

4. 

   1 Apr 2026

   Is the Storyteller the Most Influential Person in the Room?

   The hardest part of being a fractional CMO isn't creating the strategy or even the tactical execution. It's building trust with clients who resist change, forget the ‘why’, and make you feel like you're constantly running defense. Wendy Wilburn knows that dynamic well, but more importantly, she knows how to break the cycle. She's  the founder of Wendistry, her fractional practice, and a Certified StoryBrand Guide. In this episode, Wendy joins Randi Beth, Monica, and Branden to talk shop about how to create a sustainable (and enjoyable!) career as a fractional CMO. Together, they explore how to work alongside a client while maintaining the strategic “outsider” perspective that fractionals are hired for. Wendy shares tangible tips for how to drive results through education and storytelling. She also outlines exactly how she uses the StoryBrand framework to create ‘aha moments’. Plus, Wendy closes with direct advice to fractionals: trust your experience and stay radically consistent in your message and presence. Episode Outline (01:49) Wendy’s early entrepreneurialism and unconventional path to fractional marketing (09:45) A simple way to stay grounded and reconnect with your North Star (14:34) Communicating the value of the varied experiences you bring to the table (20:54) How to work WITH resistance instead of AGAINST it (25:21) Why business owners see marketing as a necessary evil — and what to do about it (32:07) Challenging the the narrative that the CMO position is the least respected one in the C-suite (35:18) The teaching side of the fractional role nobody talks about (41:52) What we can learn from Lululemon about target customers and product iteration Additional Resources Cassandra Speaks: When Women Are the Storytellers, the Human Story Changes Hardcover by Elizabeth Lesser StoryBrand Connect with Wendy Connect on LinkedIn Website More From Atlas Rose Learn more on the Atlas Rose website Follow Atlas Rose on LinkedIn Follow Branden on LinkedIn Follow Monica on LinkedIn Follow Randi Beth on LinkedIn Watch this episode on YouTube

5. 

   2 Mar 2026

   It's Really Freaking Hard to Run a Fractional Marketing Company & Here's Why

   You grow companies for a living, but your own business gets the crumbs. In this episode, Branden, Monica, and Randi Beth pull back the curtain on 14 years of building a multi-fractional practice.

6. 

   16 Jan 2026

   Integrating Marketing Into a Business Operating System with Pinnacle Guide Mitch Lewandowski

   In this episode of the Atlas Rose Podcast, we’re joined by Mitch Lewandowski, a Certified Pinnacle Guide, to discuss how to claim your seat in the boardroom by integrating into the business’s operating system rather than just pitching another campaign.

7. 

   3 Sept 2025

   (VIDEO) Why Your Marketing Needs a Methodology, Not a Magic Bullet

   Hey, small business marketers, ever feel like you’re chasing the next big thing—LinkedIn posts, lead gen tools, or some shiny new tactic—without a clear plan? In Episode 03 of the Atlas Rose Podcast, we’re diving into why that chaos happens and how a solid methodology can fix it. Monica Spieles, Randi Beth Burton, and I break down the trap of cookie-cutter marketing, the power of asking the right questions, and why you’ve gotta stop being a one-trick pony. We share hard-earned lessons from Atlas Rose’s journey, including how to surround yourself with experts and “fix it once” with tools that work. If you’re ready to lead your clients’ marketing with confidence and clarity, this episode’s for you. Hit play, subscribe, and let’s get strategic! Guest Introduction:Alright, folks, I’m pumped to have Monica Spieles and Randi Beth Burton with me today. These two are rockstar fractional CMOs at Atlas Rose, bringing years of experience in guiding small businesses through the marketing maze. Monica’s a pro at untangling complex client challenges, while Randi Beth’s knack for asking the right questions cuts through the noise. Together, they’re here to share why a methodology beats chasing trends every time. Key Takeaways:Stop chasing shiny objects—without clear goals, you’re just running in circles, and that’s a headache for any marketer.A methodology isn’t a rigid checklist; it’s a fluid framework that adapts to each client’s unique “broken arm.”Surround yourself with experts who are sold out for their craft—SEO, video, whatever—to strategically deploy the right tactics.Ask the tough questions, like a doctor diagnosing a patient, to uncover what clients really need, not just what they think they want.Fix problems once with reusable tools, so you’re not reinventing the wheel every time you face a challenge.Entertain and educate—make your clients excited to learn, or your strategy won’t stick, no matter how smart it is. Chapter Markers:0:00 Intro0:05 The Problem with Chasing Marketing Trends1:08 Why Goals Matter in Marketing Strategy2:30 Atlas Rose’s Journey: Moving Beyond Cookie-Cutter Plans5:04 The Broken Arm Analogy: Fixing What’s Really Wrong8:21 Asking the Right Questions Like a Good Doctor10:41 Avoiding the One-Trick Pony Trap13:34 Building a Support Network of Experts19:20 Learning from Problem Clients and Fixing It Once26:51 The Power of Educating and Entertaining Clients30:25 Closing Thoughts and Key Lessons Keywords:Branden O’Neil, Monica Spieles, Randi Beth Burton, Atlas Rose Podcast, fractional CMO, marketing strategy, small business marketing, marketing methodology, client goals, marketing tactics, business leadership, marketing tools, strategic marketing, marketing challenges, small business growth

8. 

   3 Sept 2025

   (AUDIO) Why Your Marketing Needs a Methodology, Not a Magic Bullet

   Hey, small business marketers, ever feel like you’re chasing the next big thing—LinkedIn posts, lead gen tools, or some shiny new tactic—without a clear plan? In Episode 03 of the Atlas Rose Podcast, we’re diving into why that chaos happens and how a solid methodology can fix it. Monica Spieles, Randi Beth Burton, and I break down the trap of cookie-cutter marketing, the power of asking the right questions, and why you’ve gotta stop being a one-trick pony. We share hard-earned lessons from Atlas Rose’s journey, including how to surround yourself with experts and “fix it once” with tools that work. If you’re ready to lead your clients’ marketing with confidence and clarity, this episode’s for you. Hit play, subscribe, and let’s get strategic! Guest Introduction:Alright, folks, I’m pumped to have Monica Spieles and Randi Beth Burton with me today. These two are rockstar fractional CMOs at Atlas Rose, bringing years of experience in guiding small businesses through the marketing maze. Monica’s a pro at untangling complex client challenges, while Randi Beth’s knack for asking the right questions cuts through the noise. Together, they’re here to share why a methodology beats chasing trends every time. Key Takeaways:Stop chasing shiny objects—without clear goals, you’re just running in circles, and that’s a headache for any marketer.A methodology isn’t a rigid checklist; it’s a fluid framework that adapts to each client’s unique “broken arm.”Surround yourself with experts who are sold out for their craft—SEO, video, whatever—to strategically deploy the right tactics.Ask the tough questions, like a doctor diagnosing a patient, to uncover what clients really need, not just what they think they want.Fix problems once with reusable tools, so you’re not reinventing the wheel every time you face a challenge.Entertain and educate—make your clients excited to learn, or your strategy won’t stick, no matter how smart it is. Chapter Markers:0:00 Intro0:05 The Problem with Chasing Marketing Trends1:08 Why Goals Matter in Marketing Strategy2:30 Atlas Rose’s Journey: Moving Beyond Cookie-Cutter Plans5:04 The Broken Arm Analogy: Fixing What’s Really Wrong8:21 Asking the Right Questions Like a Good Doctor10:41 Avoiding the One-Trick Pony Trap13:34 Building a Support Network of Experts19:20 Learning from Problem Clients and Fixing It Once26:51 The Power of Educating and Entertaining Clients30:25 Closing Thoughts and Key Lessons Keywords:Branden O’Neil, Monica Spieles, Randi Beth Burton, Atlas Rose Podcast, fractional CMO, marketing strategy, small business marketing, marketing methodology, client goals, marketing tactics, business leadership, marketing tools, strategic marketing, marketing challenges, small business growth

9. 

   3 Sept 2025

   (VIDEO) How Marketing Lost Its Seat in the Boardroom – And How to Get It Back

   Hey everyone, Branden O'Neil here from Atlas Rose. In this episode, we unpack why marketing got kicked out of the boardroom and turned into a crapshoot of tactics and false promises. From its roots in ancient Mesopotamia bazaars to today's self-inflicted wounds by overhyped marketers, we dive into how the industry broke itself and left small businesses frustrated and stuck. We talk real strategy: starting with business goals, aligning with personal vision, and adopting a proven methodology to make marketing a true growth engine again. No more Vegas bets – just solid frameworks that energize your business. If you're a small business owner tired of wasting money on shiny tactics, tune in and let's get strategic. Follow us on LinkedIn for more tips! Guest Introduction:It's the Atlas Rose crew again: me, Branden O'Neil, with Randi Beth Burton and Monica Spieles. Over 13 years, we've seen the marketing trenches up close, from my Dave Ramsey days to coaching hundreds of small businesses. We're passionate about fixing what's broken in our industry and sharing methodologies that actually work. Key Takeaways:• Marketing started simple – just communicating goods in ancient bazaars – but we broke it by turning it into overhyped tactics, removing it from real business strategy in the boardroom.• Don't treat marketing like a Vegas gamble; if it's just quick wins and low-hanging fruit without tying to business goals, you're setting up for failure and frustration.• Start with personal and business goals – marketing goals only exist to fulfill those, so misalignment creates inauthentic brands and wasted efforts.• Watch for red flags: If a marketer only pitches what they're good at, run – they're selling services, not strategy tailored to your needs.• Adopt a proven methodology like ours at Atlas Rose; it's built from years of reps, not guesswork, to make marketing efficient and growth-focused.• Even without a full plan, pause for 10 minutes on goals – it sparks clarity, blue ocean ideas, and aligns your team for real progress. Chapter Markers:0:00 Intro and Defining Marketing1:10 Prospect Calls and Mismatched Definitions2:35 Origins of Marketing – Flintstones to Mesopotamia5:17 Self-Inflicted Wounds in the Industry7:21 Asking the Right Questions for Strategy9:25 Instant Gratification vs. Big Picture10:37 Marketing as a Gamble – Undoing the Damage13:06 Parallels to Other Industries18:10 Approaching Marketing Strategically21:07 Starting with Business and Personal Goals23:12 Client Story: Stretch Goals Redefine Plans25:54 Wrapping Up – Align Goals to Avoid Chaos26:01 Red Flags and Makeup Counter Analogy28:07 Sponsor Shoutouts and Close Keywords:Branden O'Neil, Randi Beth Burton, Monica Spieles, Atlas Rose Podcast, marketing history, marketing strategy, small business growth, business goals, marketing methodology, fractional CMO, marketing tactics, boardroom strategy, Dave Ramsey, Pinnacle Guide, marketing frameworks

10. 

    3 Sept 2025

    (AUDIO) How Marketing Lost Its Seat in the Boardroom (And How to Get It Back)

    Hey everyone, Branden O'Neil here from Atlas Rose. In this episode, we unpack why marketing got kicked out of the boardroom and turned into a crapshoot of tactics and false promises. From its roots in ancient Mesopotamia bazaars to today's self-inflicted wounds by overhyped marketers, we dive into how the industry broke itself and left small businesses frustrated and stuck. We talk real strategy: starting with business goals, aligning with personal vision, and adopting a proven methodology to make marketing a true growth engine again. No more Vegas bets – just solid frameworks that energize your business. If you're a small business owner tired of wasting money on shiny tactics, tune in and let's get strategic. Follow us on LinkedIn for more tips! Guest Introduction:It's the Atlas Rose crew again: me, Branden O'Neil, with Randi Beth Burton and Monica Spieles. Over 13 years, we've seen the marketing trenches up close, from my Dave Ramsey days to coaching hundreds of small businesses. We're passionate about fixing what's broken in our industry and sharing methodologies that actually work. Key Takeaways:• Marketing started simple – just communicating goods in ancient bazaars – but we broke it by turning it into overhyped tactics, removing it from real business strategy in the boardroom.• Don't treat marketing like a Vegas gamble; if it's just quick wins and low-hanging fruit without tying to business goals, you're setting up for failure and frustration.• Start with personal and business goals – marketing goals only exist to fulfill those, so misalignment creates inauthentic brands and wasted efforts.• Watch for red flags: If a marketer only pitches what they're good at, run – they're selling services, not strategy tailored to your needs.• Adopt a proven methodology like ours at Atlas Rose; it's built from years of reps, not guesswork, to make marketing efficient and growth-focused.• Even without a full plan, pause for 10 minutes on goals – it sparks clarity, blue ocean ideas, and aligns your team for real progress. Chapter Markers:0:00 Intro and Defining Marketing1:10 Prospect Calls and Mismatched Definitions2:35 Origins of Marketing – Flintstones to Mesopotamia5:17 Self-Inflicted Wounds in the Industry7:21 Asking the Right Questions for Strategy9:25 Instant Gratification vs. Big Picture10:37 Marketing as a Gamble – Undoing the Damage13:06 Parallels to Other Industries18:10 Approaching Marketing Strategically21:07 Starting with Business and Personal Goals23:12 Client Story: Stretch Goals Redefine Plans25:54 Wrapping Up – Align Goals to Avoid Chaos26:01 Red Flags and Makeup Counter Analogy28:07 Sponsor Shoutouts and Close Keywords:Branden O'Neil, Randi Beth Burton, Monica Spieles, Atlas Rose Podcast, marketing history, marketing strategy, small business growth, business goals, marketing methodology, fractional CMO, marketing tactics, boardroom strategy, Dave Ramsey, Pinnacle Guide, marketing frameworks

11. 

    3 Sept 2025

    (VIDEO) The Real Reason Your Marketing Isn’t Working – And Our Fix

    Hey folks, Branden here from Atlas Rose. In our kickoff episode, we dive deep into why so many small business owners feel stuck and frustrated with marketing – from shady consultants to overnight CMOs and the social media silver bullet myth. We share our methodology that's helped hundreds of businesses build trust, get clear on their persona, and shout real differentiators from the rooftops. No fluff, just real talk on creating a foundation that energizes your efforts and grows your business without burning out. If you're a small business leader tired of guessing games and ready for a proven system, hit play now. Follow us on LinkedIn for more, and check out our resources to implement this yourself! Guest Introduction:No external guest this time – it's just us at Atlas Rose: me, Branden O'Neil, alongside Randi Beth Burton and Monica Spieles. We've built this agency from the ground up over 13 years, coaching small businesses knee-to-knee on marketing that actually works. Drawing from my time with Dave Ramsey and real-world trenches, we're here to give it all away generously. Key Takeaways:Start with your persona – it's not demographics, it's psychographics. Know what makes your ideal customer tick, and build everything around solving their real problems.Ditch the noise: Consultants just kick your puppy and run; what you need is a methodology that standardizes marketing for small businesses so it's efficient and effective.Key differentiators are gold – list what makes you different, filter by what your customer cares about and competitors don't claim, then shout 'em loud.Marketing is sales in the abstract: Have the same conversation you'd have face-to-face, just over time and channels – tools like personas make it concrete.You owe it to yourself: Implement frameworks across your business to free up creativity and avoid burnout – we've got resources from podcasts to coaching to help.No silver bullets: Social media isn't for everyone; focus on foundational principles that last, not flashy trends that crumble. Chapter Markers:0:00 Intro0:22 Welcome and Why We're Here2:27 Trigger Words: Consultants and Overnight CMOs5:31 Social Media Myths Exposed8:45 What Small Businesses Should Do Instead9:27 Building Your Persona and Foundation12:32 The Story Behind Atlas Rose18:27 Frameworks Fuel Creativity23:06 Marketing as Sales in the Abstract27:48 Unlocking Key Differentiators36:37 Episode Wrap-Up and Takeaways40:56 Next Episode Tease Keywords:Branden O'Neil, Randi Beth Burton, Monica Spieles, Atlas Rose Podcast, small business marketing, marketing methodology, key differentiators, buyer persona, fractional CMO, social media myths, Dave Ramsey, Pinnacle Guide, business growth strategies, marketing frameworks, small business tips

12. 

    2 Sept 2025

    (Audio) The Real Reason Your Marketing Isn’t Working – And Our Fix

    Hey folks, Branden here from Atlas Rose. In our kickoff episode, we dive deep into why so many small business owners feel stuck and frustrated with marketing – from shady consultants to overnight CMOs and the social media silver bullet myth. We share our methodology that's helped hundreds of businesses build trust, get clear on their persona, and shout real differentiators from the rooftops. No fluff, just real talk on creating a foundation that energizes your efforts and grows your business without burning out. If you're a small business leader tired of guessing games and ready for a proven system, hit play now. Follow us on LinkedIn for more, and check out our resources to implement this yourself! Guest Introduction:No external guest this time – it's just us at Atlas Rose: me, Branden O'Neil, alongside Randi Beth Burton and Monica Spieles. We've built this agency from the ground up over 13 years, coaching small businesses knee-to-knee on marketing that actually works. Drawing from my time with Dave Ramsey and real-world trenches, we're here to give it all away generously. Key Takeaways:Start with your persona – it's not demographics, it's psychographics. Know what makes your ideal customer tick, and build everything around solving their real problems.Ditch the noise: Consultants just kick your puppy and run; what you need is a methodology that standardizes marketing for small businesses so it's efficient and effective.Key differentiators are gold – list what makes you different, filter by what your customer cares about and competitors don't claim, then shout 'em loud.Marketing is sales in the abstract: Have the same conversation you'd have face-to-face, just over time and channels – tools like personas make it concrete.You owe it to yourself: Implement frameworks across your business to free up creativity and avoid burnout – we've got resources from podcasts to coaching to help.No silver bullets: Social media isn't for everyone; focus on foundational principles that last, not flashy trends that crumble. Chapter Markers:0:00 Intro0:22 Welcome and Why We're Here2:27 Trigger Words: Consultants and Overnight CMOs5:31 Social Media Myths Exposed8:45 What Small Businesses Should Do Instead9:27 Building Your Persona and Foundation12:32 The Story Behind Atlas Rose18:27 Frameworks Fuel Creativity23:06 Marketing as Sales in the Abstract27:48 Unlocking Key Differentiators36:37 Episode Wrap-Up and Takeaways40:56 Next Episode Tease Keywords:Branden O'Neil, Randi Beth Burton, Monica Spieles, Atlas Rose Podcast, small business marketing, marketing methodology, key differentiators, buyer persona, fractional CMO, social media myths, Dave Ramsey, Pinnacle Guide, business growth strategies, marketing frameworks, small business tips

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