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Understanding how machine learning can improve safeguarding with researcher Dennis Thumm
In this episode we sit down with PhD researcher Dennis Thumm to explore his work in causal and probabilistic machine learning. Taking safeguarding to a new scale, we discuss how AI could protect whole populations at once, from predicting natural disasters to testing drugs without risking human or animal lives.
Beyond the research, we consider synthetic data, unobserved confounders, spurious correlations and the human biases that find their way into the models we build. If AI is only as flawed as its creators, how do we make it safer, fairer and more transparent, and how far should we trust it with high-stakes decisions?
The episode concludes by asking what we can say to those who fear AI. Like nuclear physics, it is a technology that can heal or harm, and its future is not a destiny that falls upon us, but a creative process we are all a part of.
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31 Aug 2026
Episode 6: Negotiating the green space between apathy and spirituality with Filmmaker Ed Sayers
In this episode we sit down with filmmaker Ed Sayers to discuss his new documentary film, Super Nature. A love letter to nature created on Super 8 film across continents by 40 filmmakers, amateurs and environmental storytellers
Beyond the film we discuss motivations for environmental activism, and how small acts can waver big results. Through understanding they ways in which industrial advancements have impacted our relationship with nature, how can we reverse the damage and return to a simpler way of being?
The episode concludes by questioning the methods and purpose of image capture, considering that being present may be nature’s greatest lesson, if only we stopped for a moment and listened to the birds.
Super Nature is out in UK cinemas now. Follow the link for tickets: https://www.supernaturefilm.com/ (https://www.supernaturefilm.com/)
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17 Aug 2026
Examining how gender shapes expectations of artists within the music industry with DJ Spicy Prawn
In this episode we are joined by Bristol-based DJ Spicy Prawn, in the lead-up to her first Boomtown set. As a female DJ working within a male-dominated industry, she shares her experience of working within grassroots collectives and the challenges she has faced through the different stages of her career.
The conversation extends to consider issues regarding pay, dress code and weight, triggered by the recent public discourse surrounding Ariana Grande. From this we examine the sexualisation of women in the public sphere and question the continued normalisation of projecting weight expectations onto another.
The conversation closes by discussing the disparity within performance expectations between mainstream male and female artists. We end by arguing for a separation between the art and the artist, criticising how the necessary prosecution of a sexual predator remains a colloquial dinner party question.
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18 Jul 2026
Conceptualising consent across industries with Safeguarding Practitioner Hannah Bardsley
In this episode we continue our conversation surrounding safeguarding children in entertainment industries, narrowing our lens to identify how consent is understood and used.
The conversation expands to consider the nature of vulnerability within the context of consent, and how processes must shift to accommodate an informed and fair agreement for all parties.
We conclude that consent must be flexible, understanding that the ever-changing nature of human decision-making must too be reflected in the processes by which consent is gathered.
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17 Jul 2026
Prioritising the protection of children in Hollywood with Safeguarding Practitioner Hannah Bardsley
In this episode we consider the safeguarding standards existent in entertainment industries, with relation to the protection of children.
From the developing narrative of Justin Bieber's early career to inappropriate age gap relationships on film sets, we address the overlooked societal normalisations that expose children to harm.
We end by considering how the role of privilege acts to de-escalate the harm done unto a child star, reducing collective empathy, and continuing the pattern of risk within entertainment industries.
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17 Jul 2026
Seeking legal justice for limited rights in the UK care system with former Investigator Ann Beswick
In this episode, we highlight Detective Investigator Maggie Oliver's landmark case against the UK Government, challenging a failure to strengthen the rights and protections of children in care.
With reference to the National Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse (2018), this episode considers the complexity of safeguarding vulnerable children and the inconsistent implementation of multi-agency working.
With a consideration to her professional safeguarding education, Ann reflects on the difficulties of working as a detective within a defensively orientated police system and explains the changes needed to achieve better outcomes for children in care.
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17 Jul 2026
Identifying workplace abuse by celebrity association with Clinical Specialist Naomi Watt
In our first episode we take on the career of children's author and TV personality David Walliams.
Once regarded as a national treasure, now the subject of abuse allegations, our conversation dissects the inadequate safeguarding procedures of publisher Harper Collins regarding the protection of its staff.
We expand the conversation to consider society's tendency to shame victims, side with the abuser, and the patriarchal indoctrination to devalue women's intuition regarding self-protective instincts.
We finish by dismantling our own prejudices about the role of the bystander and questioning accountability, acknowledging the often impossible task of seeking justice and implementing tangible punishment upon the perpetrator.
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22 Jun 2026
The One with Child Marriage
Navigating discussions around child marriage in various culture groups without getting cancelled... in this episode we're giving it a go!
From first hand experience of Mormonism where purity and marriage are central beliefs, to Venezuela's 'legal' commitment at the age of 16, we try to understand the hierarchy of needs, balancing the importance of cultural respect whilst prioritising the protection of children, and their rights.
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2 Jun 2026
The One with the Consent Form
One of the best ways to practically safeguard someone is to ask for their consent... but what is consent and how do we get it?
From reality TV exploitation to participating dementia patients in clinical trials, where was the ethical footbridge we forgot to draw? Listen and share your own thoughts as we unmask the transaction of consent in the modern world.
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12 May 2026
The One with the Child Star
Child stardom and exploitation go hand in hand... but whose responsibility is it when it comes to protection and prevention?
In this episode we dive into the dark side of child stars, from Justin Bieber's back catalogue to Millie Bobby Brown's friendship with Drake... tune in and let us know what you think!
31 Mar 2026
The One with the Public Inquiry
Would we just be better off burning the police force to the ground? This week, my co-host Ann Beswick, detective turned educator, brings her bad apple to the pod.
Four years ago, the government was given recommendations regarding the protection of children in care, based on a seven-year-long inquiry into the Rochdale abuse case. Four years on, nothing has changed.
Maggie Oliver, detective turned whistleblower, is now taking the government to court in a landmark case over MPs’ complete lack of care regarding the safety of our children. Sit back and listen as we discuss professional curiosity, multi-agency working... and the theft of a Mars Bar.
17 Mar 2026
The One with the Royal Family
Ever considered the actual impact our royal family has on tourism? Ever questioned why we're funding an establishment that conceals child abuse? Well this one's for you!
One of Britain's baddest apples and yet, we sit down every year to watch some performative, idiotic monologue about hope, change, and equality... all the while paying 86 million a year to maintain royal houses while thousands are left homeless on the streets. Good job everyone!
10 Mar 2026
The One with the Nepo Baby
Brooklyn Beckham has the world at his feet... yet he’s taken to Instagram, revealing the cracks in his famous family. The nation’s reaction? Mixed, with a spicy edge.
The Bad Apple interrogates our media’s short memory when dragging individuals online, and questions who is truly accountable for changing the nepo narrative?
3 Mar 2026
The One with the National Treasure
A career of misconduct and the broadcasters are still rolling the credits? On our very first episode we tuck into the juicy apple that is children's author and TV presenter David Walliams. Little Britain star turned workplace liability, tune in as we question zero-tolerance myths, journalistic accountability, and why victims are still expected to prove abuse. Harper Collins really took their time biting this one!
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