A sacred conversation about sacred conversations. The BETWEEN Podcast lives at the intersection of YOUR FAITH and your daily moments of HUMAN CONNECTION.
Hi there. I'm Matt Mattson and I've spent my whole life obsessed with human connection. To tell you the truth, I believe it's spiritual. I think it's divine. I think the fastest and most efficient way to connect with what I understand as "God" is through conversations and interactions with others.
THE SPACE BETWEEN US IS SACRED.
No matter what you believe (or if you believe), you are welcome here.
Welcome to The BETWEEN Podcast.
What Is Truth... and What's The Point? | Rev. Dani Hillyer & Matt Mattson
10 Profound Questions of Faith | This episode is part of a limited series of The BETWEEN Podcast where we're exploring ten, big, heavy, difficult, profound faith questions.
"What if the truth isn't just black or white? What if it’s actually more like… yes and no?"
If you’ve ever felt torn between believing and doubting at the same time, you've found the right episode.Reflecting on their faith journey, Dani and Matt both realized that so much of what we seek — truth, purpose, love — isn’t about finding the perfect answer. It’s about holding tension, embracing mystery, and learning to live in the complexity.
Sometimes, life feels like we’re tracing the same old patterns — fear, scarcity, control. But what if real growth comes from daring to trace a new pattern — one rooted in love, abundance, and connection? That’s the invitation.
Maybe the point isn’t to have all the answers — it’s to keep searching, keep exploring, and keep leaning into the tension of “yes and no.” When we do, we discover that truth is often in that beautiful space in between.
Enjoy this final episode in our series on BIG FAITH QUESTIONS.
25 Mar 2026
Do We Need To Be Saved? | Rev. Dani Hillyer & Matt Mattson
Is salvation just about saving us from hell... or something deeper? Have you ever wondered what we're really being saved from? We often think of salvation as escaping eternal punishment, but what if it's about something much more personal — like liberation from loneliness, fear, and disconnection?
In this chat, Rev. Dani Hillyer and Matt Mattson explore how the word Hosanna—literally meaning "please save us"—hits at our universal desire to be rescued from our struggles, whether it's injustice, powerlessness, or spiritual emptiness.
What are YOU desperate to be saved from right now? And could salvation actually be found in leaning into love, connection, and community rather than just eternal rewards?
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6 Feb 2026
Is God On My Side? | Rev. Dani Hillyer & Matt Mattson
10 Profound Questions of Faith | This episode is part of a limited series of The BETWEEN Podcast where we're exploring ten, big, heavy, difficult, profound faith questions.
Is God really on our side? Or are we just projecting our own beliefs onto the divine?
Maybe the issue isn't about sides or winning. It’s about seeing beyond our us-versus-them mentality and recognizing the divine in every soul.
When we believe God is only on our side, we risk forgetting that Divinity might be closer to the squishy, fragile parts of us — the raw, vulnerable core beneath all our masks.
What if God’s stance isn’t about sides at all, but about love that sees us in all our messy, beautiful diversity?
How are you trying to see others — truly see them — beyond your own side?
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