Real conversations with influential voices in faith, leadership, and culture. Each episode features in-depth dialogue with pastors, athletes, entrepreneurs, and creatives who are shaping this generation. Hosted by Benny Perez, this podcast brings insight, inspiration, and authenticity you won’t find anywhere else.
Why So Many Young Leaders Burn Out | Benny Perez | Both& Ep.22
n this episode of the BOTH& Podcast, Pastor Benny Perez sits down with his son, Benjamin, for an honest conversation about leadership, consistency, faithfulness, identity, and learning to trust God with the season you’re in.
For young leaders especially, it’s easy to get distracted by the next opportunity, compare your journey to someone else’s, or feel like you need to make something happen. Pastor Benny and Benjamin unpack why lasting leadership isn’t built on hype or a platform—it’s built through daily decisions, consistency, serving others, embracing mentorship, and being faithful with what God has already placed in your hands.
You don’t have to be the biggest. You don’t have to be the fastest. You just have to be faithful.
In this live episode of The Both& Podcast, Pastor Benny Perez sits down with his son, Benaiah Perez, Creative Director of Battleborn Festival, for an honest conversation about identity, leadership, creativity, influence, revival, and learning to trust God's voice over people's opinions.
They discuss:
• How to overcome the fear of man
• Why comparison steals your calling
• Using social media without making it your identity
• How revival really starts
• Why you don't have to chase opportunities
• Learning to use what's already in your hand
• The biggest mistake young leaders make
• Why authenticity is more powerful than imitation
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16 Jul 2026
The Conversation Every Young Leader Needs to Hear w/ Pastor Michael El-Takrori | Both& Ep.20
Why do people quit?
In this honest conversation, Pastor Benny Perez and Pastor Michael unpack what it really takes to endure difficult seasons without losing your faith, purpose, or joy.
From church planting and financial hardship to grief, betrayal, counseling, and leadership, this episode explores how God uses adversity to shape people who last.
Whether you're leading a church, raising a family, building a business, or simply trying to keep going through a difficult season, this conversation will encourage you to stay faithful.
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Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1PdWGqJ...
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast...
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https://kingdomfirst.bennyperez.com/
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