The Business of Expansion with Hale Schneider

About The Business of Expansion with Hale Schneider

Conversations with entrepreneurs and leaders working in the area of the expansion of human consciousness.

Publisher

Hale Schneider

Category

business · religion & spirituality

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

21 Aug 2024

Latest episode

20 Aug 2026

Latest episodes

36 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   20 Aug 2026

   EP 36: From Ridiculing Astrology to Building ZODIAC.FM with MICHAEL LOVITCH

   Michael Lovitch spent more than fifty years openly ridiculing astrology and pretty much anything that couldn't be measured in a lab. He's a serial entrepreneur, a former academic hypnosis researcher, and the co-founder of the Baby Bathwater Institute. Then a single astrology reading cracked his whole worldview open, and now he runs Zodiac FM (https://zodiac.fm/hale), a company that turns your birth chart into personalized sound frequencies. In this conversation we trace the exact moment it happened, a bus ride to Red Rocks and a friend who finally called his bluff, and what it's like to build in a world you used to mock. Michael is refreshingly honest about the parts he still can't explain, including why he says he believes the weird stuff now but hasn't quite started living from it yet. If you're an entrepreneur caught in the gap between what you used to believe and what you're building next, this one's for you. 00:00  The skeptic who built an astrology company 01:40  50 years a materialist 05:40  The bus to Red Rocks: the bet that cracked everything 06:14  "Does she have my therapist notes?" 09:03  "A lot of it's probably true, and then what?" 11:00  Baby Bathwater: building the anti-mastermind 22:39  Paying Indian astrologers by the hour 25:28  A vibrational, conscious universe 29:50  Why sound (and how it differs from Brain.fm and Centerpointe) 32:24  The four frequencies: core, love, vitality, abundance 38:14  The 300-person beta test and its results 45:37  Pairing it with qigong and energy work 50:16  The crazy stories 53:17  Building in a world he used to ridicule 55:22  Charlatans: how to spot the fakes 01:01:26  Be okay with the dissonance 01:05:14  Startups are hard, even the fourth time 01:09:49  Turning the tables: Hale's own "batshit" beliefs 01:15:39  Hale's takeaways Join the Business of Expansion Community (https://www.thebusinessofexpansion.com/join)

2. 

   4 Aug 2026

   EP 35: Sex, Power, and the Real Story of est with MARCIA MARTIN

   At 22, Marcia Martin sat in a San Francisco room of 30 people when the Human Potential Movement was born. She became the first vice president of est, the training company that grew into Landmark, and the woman Werner Erhard called "the one who put est on the map." She was there for the founding of est, LifeSpring, the Hoffman Process, Tony Robbins' early years, the Transformational Leadership Council she built with Jack Canfield, and even the filming of The Secret. In this conversation she tells the real story of how the modern self-help industry was built, the good and the bad, drawn from her new memoir Sex, Power, and Transformation. We get into how genuine breakthroughs and outright manipulation lived side by side in the same room, why movements that change lives so often curdle into something cult-like, and the warning signs Marcia learned to spot after watching the same arc play out again and again. She shares the demonstration that made her go all in, the "gift" that came with a catch, and the one simple practice she says changes everything. If you build anything with people, or you've ever wondered how good movements go bad, this one stays with you. Chapters 00:00  Meet Marcia Martin 02:09  How the Human Potential Movement was born 04:26  Werner Erhard, Mind Dynamics, and the birth of est 11:16  When fame, power, and money corrupt a movement 14:35  Inside the training: "your levels" and the demonstration 21:56  What made est different: Scientology's influence 30:50  When community becomes hierarchy 37:51  Leading transformation without building a cult 43:46  Leaving est: the car, the gaslighting, the betrayal 47:15  After est: Hollywood, the media company, and the TLC 58:04  Marcia's new workshop and the architecture of leadership 1:06:23  Building with integrity: grow like nature, learn by doing 1:16:17  Closing wisdom: center before you act 1:19:19  Hale's takeaways Links & Resources mentioned Book: Sex, Power, and Transformation by Marcia Martin Website: marciamartin.com Landmark Worldwide (the Landmark Forum, formerly est) Esalen Institute, co-founded by Michael Murphy The Silva Method, founded by José Silva The Hoffman Process Jack Canfield and the Transformational Leadership Council Tony Robbins Lynne Twist and the Pachamama Alliance Connect Join the free Business of Expansion community Hale's Instagram

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   30 Jun 2026

   EP 34: Is Your Growth Gap a Frequency Problem? with SAM KUKATHAS

   What if the gap between where you are and where you want to be isn't a strategy problem — it's a frequency problem? That's the central question Sam Kukathas brings to this conversation, and his answer will likely challenge everything you think you know about growth, identity, and what it actually takes to collapse time between your current reality and your biggest vision. Sam's story is one of the most unusual you'll hear on this show: from academic philosopher studying David Hume, to discovering mid-psychedelic journey that he could channel other people's energy, to building a technology platform that recalibrates human consciousness at scale. We get into the moment a voice boomed through him loud enough to shut the windows, the 13 years it took to let go of a PhD he'd outgrown, and what it looks like when a $100M belief shift happens in under an hour. This is a conversation about the intersection of inner frequency and outer results — and why the most visionary leaders still get stuck. What We Cover How Sam went from academic philosopher to energy healer to creator of Resonance OS The psychedelic journey that cracked everything open — and the "booming voice" that led him into energy work What "collapsing time" actually means and how it works in practice The $100M belief shift: how clearing one subconscious pattern expanded a client's vision from $4.5M to $100M in a single session The $20M deal that came through four hours after a group wealth frequency event How Sam cleared a client's 25-year gut issue and business blocks simultaneously in one session Why visionary leaders get stuck even when they have a great strategy The 13-year journey of letting go of his doctorate — and the moment Buddha and Yogananda told him it was done Resonance OS: the vision for creating the "overview effect" in everyday human experience The frequency of you — and why becoming a copy of your mentor is a waste of your gifts Connect with Sam 1) Soul Purpose Leaders (https://soulpurposeleaders.com/) 2) Resonance OS (https://resonanceos.io/) 3) Sam's instagram (https://www.instagram.com/samkukathas/) 4) Sam's Linkedin Links & Resources Join the Business of Expansion community (free): thebusinessofexpansion.com/join Connect with Hale on Instagram and LinkedIn Subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify

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