The Campfire's Edge is a media project to collect the paranormal experiences of hunters, anglers and others encountering the more-than-human in wild places. Hosted by Sarah Rose and Matt Stansberry. Sarah is an outdoorswoman, mother and artist documenting the physical interaction of humans and animals in the landscape. Matt is a writer, fly fisherman, father, deer hunter and magician. They live in the Haw River watershed in North Carolina.
All Necromancy is Local: Conversation with Douglas Batchelor
For the Season 2 finale, Matt sits down with Douglas Batchelor of What Magic Is This? for a wide-ranging conversation about the strange territory where magic, folklore, and lived experience meet.
Together they explore Joshua Cutchin's Ecology of Souls and Fourth Wall Phantoms, fairy traditions, ancestors, saints, the dead, spirit ecology, magical practice, imagination, storytelling, and why place matters more than most occult systems admit.
Douglas reflects on how moving onto unceded land transformed his magical work, why children may inhabit reality differently than adults, and how becoming a father has changed his understanding of ritual and enchantment.
You can find Douglas's work here: https://whatmagicisthis.com/
Find more information, original art and show notes at: https://thecampfiresedge.com/
10 Jun 2026
Oops, Everything Is Alive: Leodrune Press on Ecology, Magic, and Paying Attention
This episode begins with a remembrance of Gordon White, whose work inspired the name The Campfire’s Edge and who helped give language to the idea that humans belong in a strange, haunted, more-than-human cosmos.
Then we’re joined by Sylvia and Tristan Eden, the husband-and-wife team behind Leodrune Press. From their home in the Pacific Northwest, they write and illustrate books exploring ecology, folklore, mythology, and the experience of encountering a world that may be much stranger, and much more alive, than we usually admit.
We talk about the modern search for re-enchantment, why so many people are finding their way to old ideas through forests instead of books, the weird things that happen when you spend enough time outdoors, and why taking animism seriously is both beautiful and deeply inconvenient.
Also discussed: climate grief, hunting, plant intelligence, ancestral landscapes, magical correspondences, UFOs and high strangeness, why learning the names of things matters, and the possibility that there may occasionally be a little guy in the rock.
Probably not.
Probably.
Follow Leodrune
Substack: https://leodrune.substack.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leodrunepress
Etsy Bookshop: https://www.etsy.com/shop/leodruneshop/?etsrc=sdt&dd_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fleodrune.substack.com%2F
Find show details, original art and our social media @ https://thecampfiresedge.com/ and you can find us on Instagram @ https://www.instagram.com/thehungryforestgallery/
19 Apr 2026
Haw River Personhood, Protections and PFAS
In this episode we interview Haw River Assembly Executive Director Emily Sutton about our wild and damaged river, in a discussion that spans environmental strategy, river-personhood, and our worries for the future.
HRA is lobbying NC's Environmental Management Commission. The group that is responsible for setting state pollution regulations is taking public comment on their draft language new laws on PFAS contaminants.
The North Carolina Environmental Management Commission (EMC) plans to adopt a set of rules that were written by polluters and would allow nearly 500 industrial facilities across North Carolina to continue to dump toxic PFAS and 1,4-dioxane into our rivers and drinking water supplies. Rather than require industries and wastewater plants to reduce their chemical pollution, these rules only make dischargers collect a handful of samples and write a plan for how they could reduce pollution. There are no consequences or penalties if the polluter fails to cut its pollution—even if the polluter increases its toxic discharges. The rules do nothing to prevent current or future pollution.
You can send a note to the EMC here: https://actionnetwork.org/letters/stop-the-polluter-written-minimization-plans?source=direct_link&&blm_aid=2422566
You can find more about the Haw River Assembly here: https://www.hawriver.org/
Check out TheCampfiresEdge.com for episode art and more context. https://thecampfiresedge.com/
You can support us on Patreon at The Hungry Forest Gallery and Press. https://www.patreon.com/cw/TheHungryForest
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