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- 2026
- First episode
About The Cauldron
A podcast for neurodivergent business owners who are tired of trying to force their brains into systems that weren't built for them. Hosted by Em Shindel, a business systems consultant and late-diagnosed AuDHDer, The Cauldron is where we stir up honest conversations about building sustainable businesses with AuDHD-friendly systems, anti-hustle approaches, and a whole lot of permission to do things differently. Expect real talk about the messy intersection of neurodivergence and entrepreneurship, no shame. Joined by co-host Elliott, Em explores what it actually takes to work with your brain instead of against it. New episodes every week. Grab your favorite beverage and settle in.
- Publisher
- Em Shindel
- Category
- business · health & fitness
- Language
- en
- Explicit
- No
- First episode
- 6 Feb 2026
- Latest episode
- 11 Jun 2026
Latest episodes
15 episodes in the feed.
11 Jun 2026
2026 summer bucket list
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21 May 2026
Rejection sensitivity
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7 May 2026
The overstimulation diaries, part 2
Part 2: What to do when you can't escape overstimulation. Harm reduction strategies. "I love you AND I need a break" not "I love you BUT." Why it's a privilege to be able to leave. Accessibility barriers. Don't ask "what happened?" in the moment - they can't articulate it. Also: sensory craving. Em needs the beach the way a lizard needs a hot rock. The parking lot, the beach man, the Music Pier bathrooms, the pizza guy who remembers her, the post-beach everything shower with aloe gel. Been going since age 2. Familiarity is energizing. "This is hell. I live in hell." (It was rainy.) Plus: jug handles, shore vs beach, and why you gotta take a right turn before you take a right turn. "I'm just a glorified lizard." t (https://emshindel.com)hecauldronpod.com (https://thecauldronpod.com) @thecauldronpod (https://instagram.com/thecauldronpod) Interested in a collab? Email us (mailto:collab@thecauldronpod.com)! Media kit (https://media.thecauldronpod.com)
30 Apr 2026
The overstimulation diaries
Em and Elliott break down what overstimulation actually means (it's not just "too loud"), what it feels like, what causes it, and what stimming is. Also: why Elliott can't handle temperatures above 72 degrees, why Em wants to peel her skin off sometimes, and the echolalia that got Elliott in trouble for years. Part 1 of 2. t (https://emshindel.com)hecauldronpod.com (https://thecauldronpod.com) @thecauldronpod (https://instagram.com/thecauldronpod) Interested in a collab? Email us (mailto:collab@thecauldronpod.com)! Media kit (https://media.thecauldronpod.com)
23 Apr 2026
Neurodivergent superlatives award ceremony
ADHD superlatives: giving each other awards! Most forgotten passwords. Most browser tabs open simultaneously (at least 12 per window across multiple windows with groups). Best customer service mask performance. Most likely to cry at the dinner table. Also: the time Elliott threw his physics test in the trash and convinced the teacher they lost it, the time Em played Skyrim for "30 minutes," and why she once accidentally ended up in Wyoming. Plus: executive dysfunction recovery stories, the eldest daughter emergency override, and why Em's RBF is now a trusted vibe check. Drop your most chaotic ADHD moment. Which superlatives would you win? t (https://emshindel.com)hecauldronpod.com (https://thecauldronpod.com) @thecauldronpod (https://instagram.com/thecauldronpod) Interested in a collab? Email us (mailto:collab@thecauldronpod.com)! Media kit (https://media.thecauldronpod.com)
9 Apr 2026
Parenting neurodivergent kids while being neurodivergent
Episode 10: Parenting Neurodivergent Kids (Part 3 of 3) Em and Elliott talk about recognizing the signs, fighting for accommodations, homeschooling disasters, and teaching their kids things they're still learning themselves. Also: why grades don't matter, why patience isn't a bottomless well, and why their 8-year-old is already worried about his future wife. Part 3 of the ADHD lifespan series. In this episode: Early signs School system struggles The homeschool year 504 accommodations Teaching them what you're still learning "As it turns out, children are people" The grades conversation Losing patience What they want them to know Z already planning his marriage What they hope is different The ongoing reality t (https://emshindel.com)hecauldronpod.com (https://thecauldronpod.com) @thecauldronpod (https://instagram.com/thecauldronpod) Interested in a collab? Email us (mailto:collab@thecauldronpod.com)! Media kit (https://media.thecauldronpod.com)
2 Apr 2026
ADHD in adulthood: relief, grief, identity
This episode was supposed to be about what ADHD looks like in adulthood. It ended up being about grief, identity, bad brain weeks, and why April Fool's Day is the worst day of the year. Em and Elliott tried. They really did. But Em is in a valley week after a peak week, it's April 1st (a day she hates), and the conversation kept drifting into harder territory than they expected. What they meant to talk about: How ADHD shows up differently as adults vs. kids Masking in adulthood The ongoing unmasking process How adult responsibilities interact with ADHD What they actually talked about: The "peaked in high school" feeling The ADHD roller coaster April Fool's Day rage The grief no one talks about Masking and identity The fantasy of outsourcing executive function They acknowledge this one got away from them: "We have not been on any rails. This is a rail-less episode." "We really biffed it on this one." "This is as real as it gets. We will try again next week." t (https://emshindel.com)hecauldronpod.com (https://thecauldronpod.com) @thecauldronpod (https://instagram.com/thecauldronpod) Interested in a collab? Email us (mailto:collab@thecauldronpod.com)! Media kit (https://media.thecauldronpod.com)
26 Mar 2026
The crybaby, the glass child, and the cost of not knowing
Em and Elliott talk about what ADHD looked like before they knew it was ADHD. The masking, the shame messaging, the cost of not knowing. And why Em finally stopped blaming her parents for things that might not have been parenting at all. This is part 1 of a 3-part series on ADHD through the lifespan: childhood, adulthood, and parenting neurodivergent kids. In this episode: The "crybaby" realization High-achieving maskers The glass child What masking looked like The cost of not knowing What they wish adults had understood The ongoing unlearning Key insight: You can't out-parent neurodivergence. Even with all the knowledge and 504 plans, struggles still exist. Next episode: Part 2 - What ADHD looks like now as adults t (https://emshindel.com)hecauldronpod.com (https://thecauldronpod.com) @thecauldronpod (https://instagram.com/thecauldronpod) Interested in a collab? Email us (mailto:collab@thecauldronpod.com)! Media kit (https://media.thecauldronpod.com)
19 Mar 2026
Rating ADHD coping mechanisms
Elliott and Em rate ADHD coping mechanisms from S-tier (life-changing) to F-tier (actively made things worse). Some ratings surprised them. Some mechanisms got very personal. And Em delivered her hottest take yet about a digital bird. In this episode: The S-Tier (Life-changing): Notion (for Em) Body doubling (for Em) Medication (both) Therapy/coaching (Em) The F-Tier (Do not recommend): Physical planners (Em: "F tier immediately") Time blocking (Em's PDA + time blindness combo) Habit stacking (need habits to stack them) Things in weird places strategy Buying duplicates on purpose (vs. accidentally having 6 ketchup bottles) Unexpected moments: They both rated Pomodoro technique C-tier at the same time The clothing/sensory vulnerability conversation (trigger warning: weight talk) Em's relationship with ADHD gamification apps: "I don't give a fuck about that bird" Elliott wants to try visual timers Voice memos work great for Em, not at all for Elliott The doom box gets a D but they both still use it Key insight: What works is wildly personal. Post-it notes are A-tier for Elliott, B-tier for Em. Time blocking is necessary for Elliott's work, F-tier rage-inducing for Em. Quotable moments: "I don't give a fuck about that bird" "My bean is destitute, living in squalor" "How dare past Emilee tell current me what to do?" Also discussed: The financial advisor meeting with Kari where they rated financial priorities at the same time, why laying out clothes the night before backfires with sensory issues, and why accountability partners can trigger rejection feelings. t (https://emshindel.com)hecauldronpod.com (https://thecauldronpod.com) @thecauldronpod (https://instagram.com/thecauldronpod) Interested in a collab? Email us (mailto:collab@thecauldronpod.com)! Media kit (https://media.thecauldronpod.com)
12 Mar 2026
You can't hack your way out of neurodivergent burnout.
In episode 5, Em said you can't hack your way out of burnout. Today, she's talking about what actually DOES help - and why that's complicated. T This one's hard to record because Em is currently still healing from burnout. Talking about burnout while in burnout feels like trying to explain how to get out of quicksand while you're still in it. But maybe that's exactly why this conversation matters. In this episode: What burnout actually is (not just tired, not just needing a vacation) How neurodivergent burnout looks different (ADHD burnout vs. autistic burnout) Why "just take a mental health day" doesn't work The trial and error of figuring out what helps What HASN'T worked (spoiler: playing video games for 12 hours after a weekend didn't fix it) Why this shows up differently for so many people The mistakes you have to make to figure it out Key insight: Most people have experienced burnout to varying degrees - which means most people are also trying to figure out what works through trial and error. Reality check: As it turns out, playing your favorite video game for 12 hours hasn't fixed the burnout. But we live and we learn. And maybe that works for someone else - if that's the case, lucky duck. t (https://emshindel.com)hecauldronpod.com (https://thecauldronpod.com) @thecauldronpod (https://instagram.com/thecauldronpod) Interested in a collab? Email us (mailto:collab@thecauldronpod.com)! Media kit (https://media.thecauldronpod.com)
5 Mar 2026
Everything you've been told about consistency is wrong
Episode 5: Hot Takes - Popular Productivity Advice That's Actually Hurting You Today's episode is different - no deep dives, just rapid-fire opinions on ADHD, business, and productivity. Em throws hot takes at Elliott and they discuss what's actually helpful vs. what's actively harmful for neurodivergent brains. Spoiler: Most of it is harmful. ADHD Hot Takes: Why "ADHD is a superpower" is toxic positivity (it's a disability, full stop) Self-diagnosis is valid (and why gatekeeping formal diagnosis is a problem) Medication doesn't need to be a last resort "High-functioning" is a harmful label that measures masking, not reality Time blindness isn't the worst ADHD symptom (it's different for everyone, different days) Business Hot Takes: Morning routines are neurotypical propaganda (all routines are, actually) "Just batch your content" ignores how ADHD brains work Scaling is a trap designed to make you feel inadequate You need BOTH a business coach and a therapist The 4-hour workweek gave everyone false expectations LinkedIn is corporate cosplay (Em fucking hates LinkedIn) Passive income is a lie (you still have to do the work of selling) Following your passion is good advice (if it makes sense for you) Productivity Tools: Notion is perfectly rated (used to be underrated, now gets the recognition it deserves) Planners are a scam for ADHD brains (unless they work for you, then congrats) Post-it notes are elite (and a good busy signal in shared workspaces) Google Calendar mobile app is garbage (Notion Calendar wins) To-do lists: depends on the person, the headspace, the format Bullet journaling is beautiful but useless (for Em at least) The Pomodoro Technique is hell (you're just getting into flow when the timer goes off) Productivity Culture: Atomic Habits wasn't written for neurodivergent people (and has been either useless or damaging for every ADHDer Em knows) "Rise and grind" culture is ableist Rest IS productive Consistency is overrated (and misunderstood - it's about returning, not repeating) You cannot hack your way out of burnout Key moment: Elliott discovers post-it notes work as a "busy signal" in shared workspaces Teaser: Burnout episode coming (because you can't hack your way out of it, and healing requires rest and help - which not everyone has access to) Mentioned: Candace Nelson (https://instagram.com/candacenelson) t (https://emshindel.com)hecauldronpod.com (https://thecauldronpod.com) @thecauldronpod (https://instagram.com/thecauldronpod) Interested in a collab? Email us (mailto:collab@thecauldronpod.com)! Media kit (https://media.thecauldronpod.com)
26 Feb 2026
Why can't I just start this task?
"Just start." "Just do it." "Take the first step." If you have ADHD, this advice makes you want to scream. Because the problem isn't that you don't want to start - it's that you literally can't make your body do the thing. In this episode, Em and Elliott talk about the wall between thinking and doing, what's actually happening in ADHD brains when the start button won't work, and why "just start" adds shame instead of helping. Plus: what actually works instead (and why Em refuses anesthetic at the dentist). In this episode: The wall: thinking obsessively about a task and being physically unable to begin What it looks like from the outside (Elliott's perspective on the "I need to clean the kitchen" texts) The science: ADHD brains have a faulty start button (like the Tucson that can't find the key fob even though you're holding it) The paradox that makes you feel like a liar: sometimes you CAN start immediately on interesting things Why "just start" adds shame instead of helping What actually works: body doubling, externalizing the first step, removing friction, pairing with dopamine, the 90-second trick, medication Two types of "I can't start": protection (your brain knows you don't have capacity) vs. executive dysfunction (you need support) The laundry damned-if-you-do situation How neurotypical people just... brush their teeth without thinking about it (wild) Elliott's reminder: being imperfect is perfect Key moment: "I can do anything for 90 seconds" - Em's philosophy from refusing anesthetic at the dentist (yes, really) Resources mentioned: Root Systems mini course (https://emshindel.thrivecart.com/root-systems/) Avoidance behavior cheat sheet (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WbxLaR-_afGbZCW7B_A2dOm30s3fLXCs/view?usp=drivesdk) t (https://emshindel.com)hecauldronpod.com (https://thecauldronpod.com) @thecauldronpod (https://instagram.com/thecauldronpod) Interested in a collab? Email us (mailto:collab@thecauldronpod.com)! Media kit (https://media.thecauldronpod.com)
19 Feb 2026
The thing your ADHD partner needs (but won't tell you)
What's it actually like to be the partner watching from the other side? In this episode, Em hands the mic to Elliott to talk about what it's been like to be married to someone building a business - and someone with ADHD - from his perspective. The hard parts, the good parts, and what he wishes he'd known at the beginning. This one gets vulnerable. Em asks Elliott the questions she's maybe been afraid to hear the answers to, and he answers honestly. In this episode: The hobby cycling problem (and Elliott's secret wish for a 3D printer) What surprised Elliott most about Em building a business The hard parts: weird hours, work bleeding into everything, and the sugar mama goal Why leading with curiosity instead of judgment matters so much The good parts: watching Em realize her worth What Elliott wishes he'd known at the beginning: patience and communication The hardest question: "Am I important enough for things to pause so I get some attention?" Key insight: Focus works differently for ADHD brains, and sometimes the person on the other side needs to know they're important enough to interrupt the hyperfocus. t (https://emshindel.com)hecauldronpod.com (https://thecauldronpod.com) @thecauldronpod (https://instagram.com/thecauldronpod) Interested in a collab? Email us (mailto:collab@thecauldronpod.com)! Media kit (https://media.thecauldronpod.com)
11 Feb 2026
The question neurodivergent people ask (that neurotypical people never have to)
Where's the line between "this system doesn't work for my brain" and "I just don't want to do hard things"? This is the question neurodivergent people ask ourselves constantly - and get it wrong in either direction and you're screwed. Think everything is enabling? Burnout. Think everything deserves permission? Nothing gets done. In this episode, Em sits down with Elliott to have an honest (and vulnerable) conversation about where the line actually is, how to tell the difference, and what to do when you're not sure. In this episode: Why this question is so loaded (and shame-inducing) Real examples: the laundry situation that happens in their house every week The problem with vulnerability without power (and what's missing from the Brené Brown approach) The key distinction: Are you moving toward something that works, or away from all effort? Permission requires experimentation. Enabling avoids it. The "is this sustainable?" test Why accommodation isn't the same as enabling What to do when what works now stops working later Key takeaway: Give yourself space and permission, but not enabling the part of you that just wants to avoid doing hard things because they're hard. (Em's still working on this one too.) Resources mentioned: The Hearth community - thehearth.co (https://thehearth.co) t (https://emshindel.com)hecauldronpod.com (https://thecauldronpod.com) @thecauldronpod (https://instagram.com/thecauldronpod) Interested in a collab? Email us (mailto:collab@thecauldronpod.com)! Media kit (https://media.thecauldronpod.com)
6 Feb 2026
Why ADHDers pay more for everything
In this episode, Em and Elliott talk about the extra cost (in time, money, energy, and guilt) that neurodivergent brains pay trying to use systems designed for neurotypical people. From forgotten car registrations to unused gym memberships to the endless cycle of productivity tools that don't stick, we're breaking down why consistency doesn't mean repetition for ADHD brains. In this episode: What the ADHD tax actually is The neuroscience behind why "just do it" doesn't work for ADHD brains Real examples of how the ADHD tax shows up in life and business The three principles that actually work: Rhythms over routines, rooting your rhythm, and systems in motion t (https://emshindel.com)hecauldronpod.com (https://thecauldronpod.com) @thecauldronpod (https://instagram.com/thecauldronpod) Interested in a collab? Email us (mailto:collab@thecauldronpod.com)! Media kit (https://media.thecauldronpod.com)
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