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The Church Lobby

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by Karl Vaters

137 episodes
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Karl Vaters interviews church leaders about the important issues of faith and ministry. It's called The Church Lobby because: The church lobby is where the church meets and does ministry. The church lobby moves conversations from the stage to the floor. The church lobby is a good place to take the temperature of a church’s health. Karl Vaters is the author of several books, including Small Church Essentials and The Grasshopper Myth. Formerly known as Can This Work In a Small Church?, this podcast primarily looks at church leadership from a small church perspective.

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Episode thumbnail for Ep 133: The Octogenarian YouTube Pastor: Mike Bayer on Building an Online Brand, Senior Ministry, and More

July 30, 2026

Ep 133: The Octogenarian YouTube Pastor: Mike Bayer on Building an Online Brand, Senior Ministry, and More

<p>How do you start a YouTube channel at the age of 81, and reach 25K subscribers in less than 6 months? That’s what pastor Mike Bayer did. Now he’s at over 44K subscribers, and it’s providing him with a second source of income in his later years of ministry.</p><p>Karl Vaters talks with Mike about how he made YouTube work for him, plus:</p><ul><li>The importance of intentional ministry to senior adults</li><li>How to use your church’s YouTube channel for better engagement</li><li>Ideas for making an income outside the walls of the church</li><li>Ministry adjustments for the fourth quarter of life</li></ul><br/><p>And more.</p><h3>Links:</h3><ul><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@OldMeLiving" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Old Me Living Better: YouTube Channel</a></li><li><a href="https://www.skool.com/oldmeliving/about" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Old Me Living: Skool channel</a></li><li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/mike.bayer.37" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mike’s Facebook Page</a></li><li><a href="https://www.snugsafe.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">SnugSafe.com</a></li><li><a href="https://karlvaters.com/sam-rainer-ep-128/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Aging Pastorate: Sam Rainer on the Looming Pastoral Retirement Crunch (Ep 128)</a></li></ul><br/><p>There is no bonus content for this episode.</p><p>To get Bonus Content every week, click here to become a <a href="https://karlvaters.com/support/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Financial Partner</a>, or here to subscribe to the <a href="https://karlvaters.com/subscribe/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Free Weekly Newsletter</a>.</p>

Episode thumbnail for Ep 132: An Insider's Critique: Todd Wilson Examines 70 Years of the Church Growth Movement

July 16, 2026

Ep 132: An Insider's Critique: Todd Wilson Examines 70 Years of the Church Growth Movement

Host Karl Vaters interviews Todd Wilson, co-founder of Exponential, about lessons from 70 years of the Church Growth Movement and its consumer-driven operating system.

Episode thumbnail for Ep 131: The Normal Church Song: Thomas Austin Sings About Why You Shouldn’t Try to be a Megachurch

July 2, 2026

Ep 131: The Normal Church Song: Thomas Austin Sings About Why You Shouldn’t Try to be a Megachurch

Karl Vaters interviews Thomas Austin about his song "Normal Church," exploring why smaller churches should embrace their identity rather than emulate megachurches.

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What is The Church Lobby?

Karl Vaters interviews church leaders about the important issues of faith and ministry. It's called The Church Lobby because:

The church lobby is where the church meets and does ministry.

The church lobby moves conversations from the stage to the floor.

The church lobby is a good place to take the temperature of a church’s health.

Karl Vaters is the author of several books, including Small Church Essentials and The Grasshopper Myth. Formerly known as Can This Work In a Small Church?, this podcast primarily looks at church leadership from a small church perspective.

How often does this podcast release new episodes?

This podcast updates daily.

Where can I listen to this podcast?

This podcast is available on 4 platforms including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and more. You can also use the RSS feed directly.

Does this podcast accept guests?

Yes, this podcast regularly features guests.

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