The Heat Pump Podcast
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<p>The Heat Pump Podcast discusses all things related to heat pumps. We cover: HVAC entrepreneurship, business operations, technology innovations, building science, how policy impacts both contractors and homeowners, and more.</p> <p>Our goal is to ensure that the transition to heat pumps for heating and cooling is a win for everyone – homeowners, contractors, and the planet – by sharing insights, learnings, and best practices.</p>
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May 29, 2026
#57 An Outsider's Unsparing Look at Heat Pump Pricing — with Kit Wu and Hannan Rhodes
<p>🎓<b>Join Eric Fitz's latest training: How to Design a Heat Pump System That Will Not Come Back to Haunt You</b></p> <ul><li>Eric has given this training a few times now, and it's been a huge hit. Our friends at Mitsubishi are hosting a webinar for it — open to anyone.</li><li>What he'll cover:</li><li>→ Key Manual J assumptions and how to verify them in the home quickly </li><li>→ How to apply advanced Manual S procedures the right way for variable speed systems </li><li>→ When to use strip heat, dual fuel, or no supplemental at all — and how that relates to duct capacity </li><li>→ Hidden operating cost traps in different regions and how to avoid them </li><li>→ How targeted envelope improvements can reduce HVAC headaches and what to prioritize first </li><li>→ Real-world case studies showing how high-performance heat pump design can be simple, scalable, and profitable</li><li><b>June 18th | 2:00 PM Eastern</b> </li><li>Register here: <a href="https://events.teams.microsoft.com/event/6ec444f2-e2ec-4a23-8777-5ed05506a7b4@ebe4b5fd-e854-4d4b-a3e3-e9981654a6d4" target="_blank">https://events.teams.microsoft.com/event/6ec444f2-e2ec-4a23-8777-5ed05506a7b4@ebe4b5fd-e854-4d4b-a3e3-e9981654a6d4</a> </li></ul> <p>----------------------------------------------------------</p> <p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ykitwu/" target="_blank">Kit Wu</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hannanrhodes/" target="_blank">Hannan Rhodes</a> came from outside the HVAC industry, gathered dozens of real heat pump quotes for the same house, and published the results. In this episode, they break down where installation dollars actually go, what PE consolidation means for homeowners shopping for quotes, and why the best contractors are often the worst at communicating their value.</p> <p><b>Expect to Learn:</b></p> <ul><li>How Manatee Energy is using technology to streamline HVAC installations</li><li>The role of Laminar Collective in researching heat pump pricing and installations</li><li>How transparency in pricing can benefit homeowners and contractors</li><li>Insights into the challenges and innovations in the HVAC industry</li><li>The importance of system design and efficiency in heat pump installations</li></ul> <p><b>Timestamps:</b></p> <p>[00:00] – Episode Teaser</p> <p>[03:02] – Introduction to Laminar Collective and Manatee Energy</p> <p>[04:44] – The Story Behind Laminar Collective and Manatee Energy</p> <p>[07:46] – Insights from Heat Pump Pricing Research</p> <p>[13:28] – Reddit Reactions, Contractor Pushback & Homeowner Transparency</p> <p>[18:11] – Transparency Matters More Than Low Prices</p> <p>[31:34] – Why They Started Manatee Energy</p> <p>[33:17] – Overcoming the Challenges of Heat Pump Installations</p> <p>[37:04] – The Future of HVAC: Remote Diagnostics & Smarter Systems</p> <p>[40:22] – What’s Next for Laminar Collective & Manatee Energy </p> <p><b>Follow Kit Wu & Hannan Rhodes:</b></p> <ul><li><b>LinkedIn (Kit Wu): </b><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ykitwu/" target="_blank"><b>https://www.linkedin.com/in/ykitwu/</b></a><b> </b></li><li><b>LinkedIn (Hannan):</b> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hannanrhodes/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/hannanrhodes/</a> </li><li><b>Website (Company):</b> <a href="https://laminarcollective.com/" target="_blank">https://laminarcollective.com/</a> </li><li><b>Website (Company): </b><a href="https://manatee.energy/" target="_blank">https://manatee.energy/</a> </li><li><b>LinkedIn (Company): </b><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/laminar-collective/" target="_blank"><b>https://www.linkedin.com/company/laminar-collective/</b></a><b> </b></li><li><b>Substack Publication:</b> <a href="https://laminarcollective.substack.com/" target="_blank">https://laminarcollective.substack.com/</a> </li></ul> <p><b>Follow the Hosts:</b></p> <ul><li><b>Ed Smith:</b> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ed-smith-5aa8716/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/ed-smith-5aa8716</a></li><li><b>Eric Fitz:</b> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ehfitz/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in:/ehfitz/</a></li><li><b>Amply Energy Website: </b><a href="https://www.amply.energy/" target="_blank">https://www.amply.energy/</a></li><li><b>Amply Energy YouTube:</b> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@amplyenergy" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@amplyenergy</a></li><li><b>Amply Energy Facebook:</b> <a href="https://www.facebook.com/amplyenergy" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/amplyenergy</a></li><li><b>Amply Energy Instagram:</b> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/amply_energy/" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/amply_energy/</a></li></ul>
May 13, 2026
#56 What Heat Pump Commissioning Actually Looks Like — and Where It Gets Hard, with Wes Davis and Brian Feenie
<p>Ready to design heat pump systems that really work? Grab our free manual S cold-climate heat pump selection tool - the same systematic approach that helps contractors get sizing right the first time. </p> <p>👉<a href="https://bit.ly/heatpump-manual-s-free-tool" target="_blank"> https://bit.ly/heatpump-manual-s-free-tool</a> </p> <p>-------------------------------------------------</p> <p>Want to win on trust, not price? Download our Trust Checklist and see exactly how top HVAC companies build authority and close higher-quality deals.</p> <p>👉 <a href="https://bit.ly/the-heatpump-trust-checklist" target="_blank">https://bit.ly/the-heatpump-trust-checklist</a></p> <p>-------------------------------------------------</p> <p>In this episode of the Heat Pump Podcast, hosts <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ed-smith-5aa8716/" target="_blank">Ed Smith</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ehfitz/" target="_blank">Eric Fitz</a> are joined by <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/wesdavisacca/" target="_blank">Wes Davis</a>, Director of Technical Services, and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-feenie-72a27225/" target="_blank">Brian Feenie</a><b>,</b> President of Shift Logic and Chief Encouragement Officer of <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/accausa/" target="_blank">ACCA QI</a>, to discuss the critical yet often overlooked process of heat pump commissioning. They dive into the importance of doing it right from the start, the challenges faced by contractors in the field, and how using the right tools can ensure long-term performance and customer satisfaction. The conversation also covers best practices, tools for verification, and how to avoid costly callbacks.</p> <p><b>Wes Davis</b> is the Director of Technical Services at ACCA and has years of experience working in HVAC and heat pump systems, focusing on proper installation and commissioning.</p> <p><b>Brian Feenie </b>is the President of Shift Logic, Chief Encouragement Officer of ACCA QI, and a leader in HVAC business development, committed to promoting the use of diagnostic tools and quality commissioning.</p> <p><br /></p> <p><b>Expect to Learn:</b></p> <ul><li>The difference between startup and commissioning in heat pump systems</li><li>The role of duct leakage and airflow in system performance</li><li>The impact of using diagnostic tools like Measure Quick and ACCA QI</li><li>Why accurate commissioning can drastically reduce callbacks and improve customer satisfaction</li><li>Where MeasureQuick + ACCA QI certificates work for heat pumps today, and where they don't yet</li></ul> <p><br /></p> <p><b>Timestamps:</b></p> <ul><li>[00:00] – Teaser</li><li>[02:19] – Episode Introduction</li><li>[03:07] – Defining Commissioning vs. Startup</li><li>[06:48] – The Importance of Duct Leakage and Airflow Testing</li><li>[10:12] – Poor Practices & Fake Reporting</li><li>[18:33] – Tools and Technology for Accurate Commissioning (Featuring Measure Quick)</li><li>[26:33] – Verifying System Performance During Cold Weather </li><li>[36:57] – The Case for Having a Second Commissioning Visit</li><li>[40:45] – Solutions for Improving the HVAC Industry’s Commissioning Standards</li><li>[56:11] – Final Thoughts on Commissioning and Setting Industry Standards</li></ul> <p><br /></p> <p><b>Resources Mentioned:</b></p> <ul><li>ACCA QI Certification: <a href="https://www.acca.org/qa/prove-it" target="_blank">https://www.acca.org/qa/prove-it</a></li><li>Measure Quick: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@measureQuick" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@measureQuick</a></li><li>Jim Bergmann on evacuation: <a href="https://youtu.be/QJTFESe2VhM?si=jvYEfmMaqBfK3ZBj" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/QJTFESe2VhM?si=jvYEfmMaqBfK3ZBj</a></li></ul> <p><br /></p> <p><b>Follow Wes Davis & Brian Feenie:</b></p> <ul><li><b>LinkedIn (Wes): </b><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/wesdavisacca/" target="_blank"><b>https://www.linkedin.com/in/wesdavisacca/</b></a><b> </b></li><li><b>LinkedIn (Brian):</b> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-feenie-72a27225/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-feenie-72a27225/</a> </li><li><b>Website (Company):</b> <a href="https://www.acca.org/home" target="_blank">https://www.acca.org/home</a> </li><li><b>LinkedIn (Company): </b><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/accausa/" target="_blank"><b>https://www.linkedin.com/company/accausa/</b></a><b> </b></li><li><b>YouTube (Company): </b><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@accamerica" target="_blank"><b>https://www.youtube.com/@accamerica</b></a><b> </b></li><li><b>Facebook (Company): </b><a href="https://www.facebook.com/accontractors" target="_blank"><b>https://www.facebook.com/accontractors</b></a><b> </b></li><li><b>Twitter (Company):</b> <a href="https://x.com/accausa" target="_blank">https://x.com/accausa</a> </li><li><b>Instagram (Company):</b> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/acca_usa/" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/acca_usa/</a> </li></ul> <p><br /></p> <p><b>Follow the Hosts:</b></p> <ul><li><b>Ed Smith:</b> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ed-smith-5aa8716/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/ed-smith-5aa8716</a></li><li><b>Eric Fitz:</b> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ehfitz/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in:/ehfitz/</a></li><li><b>Amply Energy Website: </b><a href="https://www.amply.energy/" target="_blank">https://www.amply.energy/</a></li><li><b>Amply Energy YouTube:</b> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@amplyenergy" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@amplyenergy</a></li><li><b>Amply Energy Facebook:</b> <a href="https://www.facebook.com/amplyenergy" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/amplyenergy</a></li><li><b>Amply Energy Instagram:</b> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/amply_energy/" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/amply_energy/</a></li></ul>
April 29, 2026
#55 A Shot Across the Bow of the Entire HVAC Supply Chain — Stephen Lake of Jetson
<p>Want to win on trust, not price? Download our Trust Checklist and see exactly how top HVAC companies build authority and close higher-quality deals.</p> <p>👉 <a href="https://bit.ly/the-heatpump-trust-checklist" target="_blank">https://bit.ly/the-heatpump-trust-checklist</a></p> <p>-------------------------------------------------</p> <p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/slake/" target="_blank">Stephen Lake</a>, CEO of <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/jetsonhome/" target="_blank">Jetson</a>, is quoting whole-home heat pump installs at 30–50% below competitive prices — and he has closed-loop performance data from over a thousand installs to back up every claim. In this conversation, we unpack how Jetson's vertically integrated model works, why Stephen thinks Manual J overstates heat loads by 30–40%, and what every layer of the HVAC supply chain should take from a company that just raised $60M to scale nationally. A shot across the bow of the entire HVAC industry.</p> <p><br /></p> <p><b>Expect to Learn:</b></p> <ul><li>Why Jetson's vertically integrated model allows them to quote heat pump installs at 30–50% below competitive prices — and what layers of the traditional HVAC supply chain they've collapsed to get there</li><li>How Jetson uses closed-loop performance data from over a thousand installs to confirm — not just predict — the accuracy of their load calcs and system designs</li><li>Why Stephen believes typical Manual J calculations overstate actual heat loads by 30–40%, and what the industry should do about it</li><li>Why most duct work "problems" in heat pump retrofits are really oversizing problems in disguise</li><li>What HVAC incumbents — OEMs, distributors, installers, and industry bodies — should take from a company trying to do to HVAC what Tesla did to cars</li></ul> <p><br /></p> <p><b>Timestamps:</b></p> <p>[00:00] – Episode Teaser</p> <p>[05:20] – What Jetson Actually Is (Not a Typical HVAC Company)</p> <p>[07:28] – Stephen’s Background: From AR Startup to Climate Tech</p> <p>[12:49] – The Real Problem: Cost and Friction in Buying Heat Pumps</p> <p>[19:15] – The Jetson Experience: 2-Minute Quote to 1-Day Install</p> <p>[23:58] – Closed-Loop Data: The Advantage Nobody Else Has</p> <p>[25:09] – The Oversizing Problem (And Why Duct Issues Are Misdiagnosed)</p> <p>[32:00] – Why Manual J Gets It Wrong</p> <p>[44:40] – Why Jetson Is 30–50% Cheaper</p> <p>[49:43] – The Bigger Mission: Electrification and Urgency</p> <p>[55:54] – Industry Impact & What Comes Next</p> <p><br /></p> <p><b>Follow Stephen Lake:</b></p> <ul><li><b>LinkedIn: </b><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/slake/" target="_blank"><b>https://www.linkedin.com/in/slake/</b></a><b> </b></li><li><b>Twitter:</b> <a href="https://x.com/srlake" target="_blank">https://x.com/srlake</a> </li><li><b>Website (Company): </b><a href="https://jetsonhome.com/us/" target="_blank">https://jetsonhome.com/us/</a> </li><li><b>LinkedIn (Company): </b><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/jetsonhome/" target="_blank"><b>https://www.linkedin.com/company/jetsonhome/</b></a><b> </b></li><li><b>YouTube (Company): </b><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@JetsonHome" target="_blank"><b>https://www.youtube.com/@JetsonHome</b></a><b> </b></li><li><b>Facebook (Company): </b><a href="https://www.facebook.com/meetjetson/" target="_blank"><b>https://www.facebook.com/meetjetson/</b></a><b> </b></li><li><b>Instagram (Company):</b> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jetsonhome/" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/jetsonhome/</a> </li></ul> <p><br /></p> <p><b>Follow the Hosts:</b></p> <ul><li><b>Ed Smith:</b> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ed-smith-5aa8716/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/ed-smith-5aa8716</a></li><li><b>Eric Fitz:</b> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ehfitz/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/ehfitz/</a></li><li><b>Amply Energy Website: </b><a href="https://www.amply.energy/" target="_blank">https://www.amply.energy/</a></li><li><b>Amply Energy YouTube:</b> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@amplyenergy" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@amplyenergy</a></li><li><b>Amply Energy Facebook:</b> <a href="https://www.facebook.com/amplyenergy" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/amplyenergy</a></li><li><b>Amply Energy Instagram:</b> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/amply_energy/" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/amply_energy/</a></li></ul>
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<p>The Heat Pump Podcast discusses all things related to heat pumps. We cover: HVAC entrepreneurship, business operations, technology innovations, building science, how policy impacts both contractors and homeowners, and more.</p> <p>Our goal is to ensure that the transition to heat pumps for heating and cooling is a win for everyone – homeowners, contractors, and the planet – by sharing insights, learnings, and best practices.</p> - How often does this podcast release new episodes?
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