The Heavy Lifting Podcast is where moving company owners come to grow. Hosted by Brian and Vincent Moulton, former movers turned agency founders, we sit down with operators in the trenches sharing what's actually working in their businesses. Just a couple guys talking about operations, hiring, and building a moving company that lasts.
How to Run a Full-Service Moving Company Without Owning a Truck
In 2020 Tavon was waiting tables. A year later he was running a full-service moving company without a single truck of his own.
What This Episode Covers
You'll hear how Tavon runs full-service moves out of rented Penske and U-Haul trucks across DC, Maryland and Virginia, and why he still hasn't bought one. He breaks down what a Penske commercial account gets you and when he picks U-Haul instead. He also explains what happens when a rental breaks down mid-job. If you've been weighing a truck loan against renting, or wondering whether HireAHelper's fee is worth it, this one is for you.
What You'll Walk Away With
- How a Penske commercial account locks your rate for three months, and why his mileage sits around 29 cents
- When to rent U-Haul (short local jobs) and when to rent Penske (long distance)
- The real case for renting: no truck payment, no maintenance bill, and if it breaks down you call Penske for another truck instead of a tow
- Why he pays HireAHelper a 29% cut when Moving Help only takes 15%
- How Moving Help's last-ten-reviews ranking pushed him off the platform
- How he pairs movers by their strengths so the crew works as a team
- What he does when a stuck elevator turns into a two-star review
About Tavon
Tavon went from restaurant server to owner of All Aboard Moverz within months of COVID hitting, after learning the trade on Moving Help labor jobs. He now runs two- to six-person crews across the DMV and has over 100 five-star reviews on Google.
Timestamps (pre-edit, confirm against the final Descript cut)
00:00 From waiting tables to owning a moving company
03:00 Running full service without owning a truck
07:52 Mindset and learning from other movers
14:12 Reviews, bad days and building crews
19:00 HireAHelper vs Moving Help: why he pays 29%
Connect with Tavon and All Aboard Moverz
Website: https://www.allaboardmoverzdmv.com/ (https://www.allaboardmoverzdmv.com/)
Call: 202-365-4090
Book on HireAHelper: https://www.hireahelper.com/movers/waldorf_md/all-aboard-moverz/ (https://www.hireahelper.com/movers/waldorf_md/all-aboard-moverz/)
Connect With Heavy Lifting Marketing:
Website: https://www.heavyliftingmarketing.com/ (https://www.heavyliftingmarketing.com/)
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theheavyliftingmarketing/ (https://www.instagram.com/theheavyliftingmarketing/)
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61571600552571 (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61571600552571)
Phone: (754)799-7626
If you're about to sign a truck loan, watch this first.
16 Oct 2026
His Moving Company Grew 75% a Year After Hope Center Changed His Life
The second time Brett Clark blew out his knee, he got hooked on pain pills and had to step away from his own moving company for a full year.
What This Episode Covers
You’ll hear how Brett went through the 12-month program at Hope Center Ministries, came back to Tennessee Country Boys Moving, and grew it 75 to 100% a year. He explains why he’d rather be the best than the biggest, and why once a day is booked, it stays booked. You’ll find out how he books about 92% of the people who call on a day he has open, and why the biggest billboard in Nashville didn’t pay for itself. Brandon Hembry, a Hope Center recovery pastor, also joins to talk about the program that turned Brett’s life around.
What You’ll Walk Away With
-Why he hires experienced movers and sends brand-new guys to learn somewhere else first
-His one calendar rule: no crew gets sent to a second job after the first one
-How he books about 92% of callers with no sales pressure
-The real reason his best guys have stayed for years (it isn’t only the pay)
-Why he puts money into school sports sponsorships instead of ads in peak season
-How he and his wife send customers back and forth between his moving company and her cleaning company
-What he’d tell a five-year-old moving company that has stopped growing
About Brett Clark
Brett Clark started as a mover and crew leader in 2012. Today he owns Tennessee Country Boys Moving in Sumner County, Tennessee, which won 2026 Best of Music City for moving companies after we recorded this episode. He’s also the director of a Hope Center Ministries center, part of the same 12-month recovery program that helped him get his life back.
Timestamps
00:00 From crew leader to business owner
04:37 Quality over quantity: why booked means booked
12:48 The billboard that didn’t pay off, and what did
16:58 Hope Center Ministries and Brett’s recovery
28:00 How his wife’s cleaning company sends him jobs
Connect with Brett Clark
Website: https://tennesseecountryboysmoving.com/ (https://tennesseecountryboysmoving.com/)
Facebook (Brett Clark): https://www.facebook.com/brett.clark.75033 (https://www.facebook.com/brett.clark.75033)
Facebook (Tennessee Country Boys Moving): https://www.facebook.com/TNcountryboys (https://www.facebook.com/TNcountryboys)
Google Business Profile: https://share.google/cajHtIcbUDAfN4pyE (https://share.google/cajHtIcbUDAfN4pyE)
Learn More About Hope Center Ministries
https://www.hopecm.com/ (https://www.hopecm.com/)
Connect With Heavy Lifting Marketing:
Website: https://www.heavyliftingmarketing.com/ (https://www.heavyliftingmarketing.com/)
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theheavyliftingmarketing/ (https://www.instagram.com/theheavyliftingmarketing/)
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61571600552571 (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61571600552571)
Phone: (754)799-7626
If people keep telling you “must be nice,” Brett’s story shows what it really took to get there.
13 Oct 2026
How Shaun Gebo Turned $2,000 Into 3 Moving Trucks In 3 Years
In 2023, Shaun Gebo started a moving company with about $2,000, a hand truck from his fiancee’s grandfather, one dolly and 20 beat-up blankets.
What This Episode Covers
You’ll hear how Shaun went from passing for 16 on a moving crew at age 14 to running three trucks a day in Syracuse, New York. He explains how he gets a team of 12 to 14 movers to treat every customer the way he would, and it starts before they’re even hired. You’ll get the full marketing mix he uses, including the realtor outreach that cost him nothing. And if you’re busy every day but the money isn’t there, his take on pricing and valuation is the part you’ll want to replay.
What You’ll Walk Away With
-Why his job interviews are sales calls, not background checks
-The three numbers every mover on his crew is measured on: damage on fewer than 5% of customers, five-star reviews from 40%, and showing up on time
-The Facebook message he sent local realtors back when nobody was referring him
-Why LSA is his pick for any company under two years old, and why you need a CRM before you spend thousands on ads
-Leads from ChatGPT and AI search book for him at about 56%, not far off his referral rate
-The real cost of a $25-an-hour mover (closer to $34)
-How valuation coverage added about $10,000 with almost nothing attached to it
About Shaun Gebo
Shaun Gebo spent about 10 years as a mover and crew lead before he started First Class Moving and Removal in Syracuse, New York, in 2023. The company now owns two trucks and an enclosed trailer, runs three trucks a day in peak season, and has 12 to 14 movers on the team.
Timestamps
00:00 Hired on a moving truck at 14
05:37 How to build a crew that reflects you
11:10 Starting with $2,000 and one dolly
25:31 The marketing that fills his calendar
38:00 Where moving companies leak profit
Connect with Shaun Gebo
Website: https://www.firstclass-moving.com/ (https://www.firstclass-moving.com/)
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100094207107809# (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100094207107809#)
Google Business Profile: https://share.google/knyAmiJ4sa66Skg1G (https://share.google/knyAmiJ4sa66Skg1G)
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/firstclassmovingllc2023 (https://www.instagram.com/firstclassmovingllc2023)
Connect With Heavy Lifting Marketing:
Website: https://www.heavyliftingmarketing.com/ (https://www.heavyliftingmarketing.com/)
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theheavyliftingmarketing/ (https://www.instagram.com/theheavyliftingmarketing/)
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61571600552571 (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61571600552571)
Phone: (754)799-7626
If you’re out there right now with one truck and a pile of old blankets, Shaun’s story says that’s enough to start.
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