
This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler
Hosted by Gavin Esler and Oz Katerji · Podmasters
4.6from 1,008 ratings
- 255
- Episodes
- 160
- Transcribed
- 1,008
- Ratings
- Weekly
- Cadence
- 2021
- First episode
- 5M
- YouTube views
About This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler
Exploring threats to global stability from Ukraine to China to the Middle East with host Gavin Esler – former BBC News presenter, Washington correspondent and host of Newsnight – plus Ukraine-based war reporter Oz Katerji and independent conflict analyst Emma Beals. This Is Not A Drill dives deep into the dangers, corruption, conflicts, disinformation, rivalries and ruthless realpolitik that are making our world ever more dangerous. Support This Is Not A Drill on Patreon from just £3 per month to get each episode early plus bonus material and exclusive merchandise. From Podmasters, the team behind Oh God, What Now?, Paper Cuts and The Bunker.
- Publisher
- Podmasters
- Category
- news · society & culture
- Language
- en
- Explicit
- No
- First episode
- 8 Nov 2021
- Latest episode
- 6 Nov 2026
Latest episodes
160 of 255 episodes have a transcript.

6 Nov 2026TRANSCRIPT
What Trump’s midterm humiliation means for global conflict

29 Oct 2026TRANSCRIPT
How Putin is playing Trump’s chaotic Ukraine “diplomacy” – with Oz Katerji

22 Oct 2026TRANSCRIPT
Cold War – The new battle for the Arctic
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What Trump’s midterm humiliation means for global conflict
Published 6 Nov 2026 · Transcript excerpt
[…] It's usually cost of living slash inflation, immigration. Sometimes it's the Supreme Court or health care, really domestic issues. I mean, immigration crosses over. But this time the war has had such a dramatic impact on that fundamental issue that we now put in that bucket of what we call affordability. […]
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- Rana Foroohar
- Steven Pifer
- Ulrike Franke
- Elisabeth Kendall
- Matthew Campbell
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- YouTube views
- 4,818,331
- Score snapshot 15 Sept 2025
- Apple Podcasts (US)
- 4.6 / 5
- 133 ratings
- Spotify
- 4.6 / 5
- 875 ratings
Podcast Authority Score: 86 / 100
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- 95
- Social presence
- 0
- YouTube
- 93
- Engagement
- 97
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Who hosts This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler?
Gavin Esler and Oz Katerji host the show. Published by Podmasters.
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