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This Week in AI

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An experts-only AI podcast: Think the 'All In' podcast for AI. Jason + 3 CEO-level experts breaking down the news & trends.

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June 10, 2026

Hermes Agent, NotebookLM & LiveKit Founders on the AI Agent Race | TWiAI 17

Jeffrey Quesnelle, Steven B Johnson, and Russ d’Sa discuss the AI agent race, exploring how controlling the agent layer shapes user experience and future capabilities.

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June 4, 2026

AI Layoffs, Compute Costs & Agents | Naveen Rao & Alex Finn on This Week in AI Episode 16

Naveen Rao and Alex Finn discuss AI compute costs, energy demands, and the economics of AI development in this interview.

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May 27, 2026

"Nobody Lost Their Job to AI, Just the Promise of AI" - This Week in AI Ep 15

<p>The AI jobs panic is here. Meta cut 8,000. Intuit cut 3,000. CapEx went up. Nobody can agree if anyone has actually lost a job to AI, or just to the promise of it. We dug into the GPU squeeze, the new craft of &quot;reward engineering,&quot; Pope Leo&#39;s call to disarm AI, and why Chinese open-source models just blew past American ones in token usage.</p><p>This week&#39;s roundtable: Erik Bernhardsson (CEO of Modal Labs, the serverless GPU cloud), Tanay Kothari (CEO of Wispr Flow, the voice dictation app every VC in the valley uses), and Richard Socher (CEO of Recursive Superintelligence and You.com).</p><p><br></p><p>Thank you to our exclusive sponsor:</p><p>PayPal Open, One Platform for All Business: http://paypalopen.com/</p><p><br></p><p>Timestamps:</p><p>0:00 Cold open</p><p>0:53 Welcome to Episode 15</p><p>5:53 Recursive&#39;s plan to build a self-improving &quot;Eureka machine&quot;</p><p>8:10 Token spend now exceeds headcount at the frontier</p><p>9:56 GPU crunch, Hopper prices, and the Anthropic-Colossus shockwave</p><p>12:23 Wispr Flow&#39;s 90% gross margin playbook</p><p>14:30 Running $100M in marketing with two humans and a swarm of agents</p><p>18:29 Reward hacking, paperclips, and the rise of the &quot;reward engineer&quot;</p><p>24:39 Why CEOs put one person in charge: multi-objective AI</p><p>28:17 Meta&#39;s 8,000 layoffs, $145B CapEx, Goldman vs. Stanford</p><p>33:23 &quot;Nobody lost their job to AI, just the promise of AI&quot;</p><p>37:57 Jevons paradox: software demand is infinite, illustrations aren&#39;t</p><p>39:48 Meta&#39;s keystroke monitoring and the back-channel reaction</p><p>42:55 Equity, Trump accounts, and rooting for your old employer</p><p>44:06 The Bloomberg/Indeed dev jobs chart</p><p>47:34 Jason&#39;s pitch: hiring a 22-year-old AI-native &quot;software valet&quot;</p><p>50:29 Pope Leo: &quot;AI needs to be disarmed&quot;</p><p>57:41 Chris Olah on AI displacement and the global poor</p><p>1:00:46 Chinese models hit 9 trillion tokens, DeepSeek V4 Flash goes #1</p><p>1:03:04 Strange biases, Tiananmen Square, and the US open-source vacuum</p><p>1:05:07 Who they&#39;re hiring</p><p><br></p><p>🔗 Guests:</p><p>Erik Bernhardsson, Modal Labs: https://modal.com | https://x.com/bernhardsson</p><p>Tanay Kothari, Wispr Flow: https://wisprflow.ai | https://x.com/tankots</p><p>Richard Socher, Recursive Superintelligence / You.com: https://recursive.com | https://x.com/RichardSocher</p><p><br></p><p>🔗 Referenced in this episode:</p><p>Modal Labs: https://modal.com</p><p>Wispr Flow: https://wisprflow.ai</p><p>Recursive Superintelligence launch: https://recursive.com</p><p>You.com: https://you.com</p><p>Anthropic / SpaceX Colossus 1 compute deal: https://www.anthropic.com/news/anthropic-spacex</p><p>TechCrunch on the $1.25B/month Anthropic-xAI compute deal: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/20/anthropic-will-pay-xai-1-25-billion-per-month-for-compute/</p><p>Meta&#39;s 8,000 layoffs and 2026 AI CapEx of $145B: https://www.reuters.com</p><p>Intuit cuts 3,000 jobs to fund AI integration: https://www.reuters.com</p><p>Goldman Sachs CEO David Solomon NYT op-ed on AI job loss: https://www.nytimes.com</p><p>Stanford study on entry-level AI-exposed jobs (-16%): https://digitaleconomy.stanford.edu</p><p>Pope Leo XIV: &quot;AI needs to be disarmed&quot;: https://www.vatican.va</p><p>Chris Olah (Anthropic) on AI and the global poor: https://www.anthropic.com</p><p>OpenRouter token usage leaderboard: https://openrouter.ai/rankings</p><p>DeepSeek V4 Flash: https://www.deepseek.com</p><p>Qwen 3 Max (Alibaba): https://qwenlm.ai</p><p><br></p><p>🔗 Subscribe and follow:</p><p>Newsletter and all platforms: https://thisweekinai.ai</p><p><br></p><p>#ThisWeekInAI #AI #ModalLabs #WisprFlow #Recursive #YouCom #DeepSeek #Qwen #MetaLayoffs #Anthropic #Colossus #PopeLeo #RewardHacking #AIJobs #OpenSource</p>

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