Robert Baker and Joseph St. John were raised in Newport News, VA during the 1970s. Living less than a mile apart and attending the same school, Willis A. Jenkins Elementary, Robert and Joe met in 3rd grade when Robert, who was known as Joey back then, moved to the neighborhood. As a matter of fact, they met the first day that Robert went to his new school, and they started a friendship that continues to this day.It was not a friendship that did not endure unbroken over time. After high school and multiple attempts at trying to be rock stars, they moved onto different life paths. Joe went on to join the Newport News Police Department and attained the rank of Captain and later Chief of the Columbus, MS Police Department. Robert would join the US Armed Forces and later become an attorney with his own law firm in Allegan, MI.During the pandemic, they reunited to discuss fitness and it turned into hours-long discussions on the culture of America. Often, these conversations turned in to “WTF America” and what is happening to our nation. We also discussed fitness, movies, music, and the life of individual Americans.Stand by and get ready to take the ride of your life as Two Avg. Joes tell it like it is: Unfiltered and Unapologetic.
Two Average Joes: The Making of An Ordinary Killer
Summary
In this episode of Two Average Joes, Dean discusses the making of the movie 'An Ordinary Killer' and its connection to the future of the podcast. The movie, produced by Collective Development, Incorporated, is based on a true story and follows the life of Gerald Leroy Wingeart, a convicted rapist and murderer.
The film was completed in 2001 but did not receive widespread distribution. The hosts express their desire to create high-quality content and explore the challenges of distribution. They also touch on the connection between Wingeart and other unsolved murders in the area.
Keywords
Movie making, An Ordinary Killer, true crime, distribution, Gerald Leroy Wingeart, unsolved murders
Takeaways
The movie 'An Ordinary Killer' is based on the true story of Gerald Leroy Wingeart, a convicted rapist and murderer.
Distribution is a crucial aspect of the film industry, and many good movies struggle to reach a wide audience.
The hosts of Two Average Joes aim to create high-quality content and explore the challenges of distribution.
Wingeart 's connection to other unsolved murders in the area adds an intriguing element to the story.
Titles
The Making of 'An Ordinary Killer'
Challenges of Distribution in the Film Industry
Sound Bites
"We're gonna talk about the making of a movie. The making of an ordinary killer."
"This movie is about Gerald Leroy Wingeart and it starts by showing his first defense, which was the rape of a blind girl and robbing her boyfriend."
"Distribution is everything. There's a bunch of good movies, great movies being made, good books, great books. What they lack is distribution."
Chapters
00:00 The Making of 'An Ordinary Killer'
03:10 Gerald Leroy Wingeart and His Crimes
08:46 Challenges of Distribution in the Film Industry
15:02 Exploring the Connection Between Wingeart and Unsolved Murders
29 Feb 2024
Two Average Joes: A True Survivor Story
How unique and yet terrifying would it be to hear first hand what it’s like to be abducted? How scared would you be to find yourself in a car and then finding out you're alone with a convicted rapist and a convicted killer. What would you say? What would you feel? Would you be quick and begin to figure out a way to escape? Would the paralyzing fear consume you to the point of being numb?
Two Average Joe’s has taken a unique opportunity to hear first hand the account from a true survivor. A woman that defied all odds, with her bravery, shear nerve and her will to survive.
Let’s go back to 1961, when a man from Niles, Michigan was convicted of raping a blind girl and robbing her boyfriend. This same man would walk out of prison on December 1967 on parole but free to roam Ann Arbor and the surrounding areas of southern Michigan. Yes, that’s right that was also during the same time as the Co-Ed murders of Ypsilanti and Ann Arbor. He later raped and killed a beautiful woman from Owosso Michigan in 1973, a mother and a wife. Then a year later, he ran into this woman. A true survivor, a fighter.
Two Average Joe’s brings you her story, in her own words, her fear but also her triumph.
TAJs will be bringing you more episodes on the alleged suspect in this case and convicted murderer and rapist, Gerald Wingeart in the near future.
Other links related to this episode:
Two Average Joes Presents: True Crime Incorporated - What is Truth? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND_LetTd7fI&t=76s)
2AJs Presents: True Crime Incorporated - Episode 2: Why is it so Hard to Correct Myth? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srOWdtME-y8&t=15s)
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16 Feb 2024
Two Average Joes with Kevin King - What Happens When the Prison System Lies???
Two Average Joes with Kevin King - What Happens When the Prison System Lies???
In our latest installment on Prison Reform, Kevin King tells of his 12-year ordeal in regard to his situation in the Michigan Department of Corrections. Would government officials try to set up an inmate just because the internee was trying to protect other prisoner’s constitutional rights? How far will an institute go to stop one man’s desire to protect his fellow inmates? Can a person even fight those odds?
Kevin King did. Listen to the story as Kevin details how prison officials fabricated his prison records and attempted to set him up for failure. Kevin had to maneuver through a web of deceit and lies to protect his rights. What happened at the end? King won.
With the help of the Baker Law Firm, Kevin prevailed. With the assistance of Attorney Robert Baker and Paralegal Kristle Goins, Kevin’s wife Cheryl King and Attorney Gregory Longworth, he was able to win his case and collect damages in his 1983 civil case. The case, King vs. Zamiara can be viewed below:
https://twoaveragejoes.com/podcast/two-average-joes-with-kevin-king-what-happens-when-the-prison-system-lies/ (https://twoaveragejoes.com/podcast/two-average-joes-with-kevin-king-what-happens-when-the-prison-system-lies/)
Also, view the following videos on Prison Reform here:
2 Average Joes: Do You Really Know What Happens in the Prison System? With Kevin King (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylhydSYWlmw)
Two Average Joes Presents: Prison Reform with Kevin King (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wKIPhcT7gM)
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