The world is moving faster than ever before. Entire industries are being reshaped overnight, and leaders are having to make decisions in conditions no one would have ever predicted.
Two in a Pod, hosted by DBS CEO Tan Su Shan, gives you an inside look into how these decisions are made or can be made. Real life stories and lessons from leaders who know how to navigate this volatility, who know how to build trust, and who move forward when the future feels uncertain.
Jenny Lee on investing in Asia’s innovation ecosystem | Two in a Pod, with Su Shan | Ep 5
As the pace of AI development continues to accelerate, startups and SMEs are changing how they operate – smaller teams, tighter timelines, and doing more with new tools.
Jenny Lee, Senior Managing Partner at Granite Asia, and a Forbes 2025 "World's Most Powerful Women" honouree, speaks to Su Shan on how this is also changing the role of investors – from deciding where to place bets, to working alongside founders as they build.
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22 Jun 2026
CapitaLand Investment Group CEO Lee Chee Koon on their crucial pivot | Two in a Pod, with Su Shan E4
You probably know CapitaLand through its iconic mall empire – from the luxury of ION Orchard, to heartland staples like Tampines Mall. For decades, they've shaped Singapore's skyline, pioneering mega mixed-use spaces like Raffles City and Funan.
But behind the familiar buildings you walk through every day, lies a global investment powerhouse managing over SGD 125 billion in real estate assets and hospitality assets worldwide.
In this episode of Two in a Pod, Su Shan speaks to Lee Chee Koon, Group CEO of CapitaLand Investment. He opens up candidly about their massive 2021 restructuring, how they survived the global pandemic, his thoughts on the current geopolitical situation, and how real estate is changing.
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25 May 2026
Gan Kim Yong on trust and AI: navigating a world in transition | Two in a Pod Episode 3
In this live episode of Two in a Pod, DBS CEO Tan Su Shan speaks with Gan Kim Yong, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Trade and Industry at "Trust and AI: Navigating a World in Transition" DBS Leaders Dialogue Fireside Chat on 20 May 2026.
The conversation centred on three key themes: why companies continue to invest in Singapore, how to think about AI governance and security, and how jobs and skills are evolving in an AI-driven economy.
From machine learning in finance to generative AI in banking, the discussion touches on how technology is reshaping decision-making across industries. There is also a strong focus on people – from lifelong learning and workforce training to how employers can rethink hiring as entry-level jobs evolve.
DPM Gan shares why adaptability, continuous learning, and real-world skills will matter more than ever in a world shaped by AI.
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21 Apr 2026
Peter Diamandis on The Singularity, AI's exponential development and space | Two in a Pod Episode 2
The singularity – a point where technological change moves faster than our ability to predict it – is already here, according to futurist Peter Diamandis, Founder and Chairman of the XPRIZE Foundation.
In this episode of Two in a Pod, DBS CEO Tan Su Shan speaks with Peter Diamandis about what it means to operate in this environment, as artificial intelligence, large language models and automation reshape how decisions are made across industries.
They discuss why there is no “on‑off switch” for AI development, the rise of generative and agentic AI systems, and how increasing access to intelligence is changing productivity, work and organisational structures. The conversation also touches on trust and governance, particularly as technology advances faster than regulation in sectors such as banking and finance.
The discussion extends to space exploration, and how advances in robotics, automation and intelligence are making activity beyond Earth more practical –reshaping ideas of scarcity, growth and possibility.
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21 Apr 2026
Trip.com CEO Group on leadership, trust and decisions amid volatility | Two in a Pod Episode 1
A few minutes. That’s all it took to make a decision that would define trust for years to come.
In this episode of Two in a Pod, DBS CEO Tan Su Shan speaks with Jane Sun, CEO of Trip.com Group, about leading during periods of volatility and uncertainty. Jane reflects on the decisions made when global travel halted during Covid-19, what it takes to run a platform serving millions of customers, and how trust is built with partners, employees and users.
The conversation also explores how Trip.com tracks changing travel behaviour, applies generative AI across operations, and supports women employees as part of building a resilient organisation.
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