Undefined

About Undefined

Where is the boundary between our authentic selves and our conditioned selves? How do we shed the definitions society creates to get back to our core self? What does it mean to be true to yourself? On Undefined, our host, Marisa Tashman, shares her conversations with thought-leaders, change-makers, and passion-players who have journeyed to return to the core of who they are. Together we explore authenticity, identity, core beliefs, definitions, conditioning and societal programming, social justice, relationships, spirituality, mindfulness, wellness, and self-love. www.undefinedmother.com (https://www.undefinedmother.com?utm_medium=podcast)

Publisher

Marisa Tashman

Category

health & fitness · society & culture

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

2 Sept 2020

Latest episode

1 Apr 2022

Latest episodes

14 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   1 Apr 2022

   The Value of Stillness and Solitude

   Hi Friends! On this happy Friday, I share with you my conversation with Gena Chieco, who left the practice of law to start her own executive and life coaching practice. Prior to starting her coaching practice, Gena served in the Obama Administration, practiced law at the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, and worked as General Counsel and Chief of Staff to the CEO at a cleantech startup. We discuss her travel sabbatical that ultimately led her to leave the law to start her coaching practice, her journey to integrate all parts of herself, the value of stillness and solitude, and shifting away from people pleasing. A major theme running through this episode is the idea of stillness and solitude — both are states of being that tend to make humans uncomfortable. As you will hear when you listen, Gena models becoming comfortable with these states, ultimately using them as a tool to know and connect with herself. Every year (tbh, it’s only been two), I intentionally travel alone to practice stillness and solitude. A portion of this time is spent with my phone on airplane mode. At first, such as when I’m driving to my destination, I notice myself feel more attuned to my environment, as if all colors are brighter. My body feels open and expanded. At some point, usually during my first meal alone or first arriving at my place of stay (when I undoubtedly contemplate how an intruder may enter and kidnap me), I notice myself begin shifting a bit more in my seat, reaching for my phone, craving connection with the outside world. This discomfort subsides as I begin to focus again on my environment, my feet on the floor, the sounds traveling through my ears. I ask myself, why is airplane mode so uncomfortable during these first few moments of solitude, when I feel so comfortable flipping to airplane mode each night as I prepare to wind down, my heart even fluttering as I think about how nobody in the world can reach me? Humans are connected creatures. Besides my nightly airplane mode, I tend to furiously flip to airplane when I am anxious, on the verge of panic — when I feel trapped, seeking any means of escape. I rarely, however, flip to airplane when I am not (a) winding down for the night or (b) approaching panic. It is in the moments when I otherwise would be plugged in when I find airplane mode most valuable, but riddled with discomfort. A forced stillness; forced solitude. I think about how before cell phones, computers, the internet, etc., humans spent so much more time alone. If you watch any period piece set pre-1900 (The Gilded Age is my most recent example), you will notice solo leisure time is spent drawing, reading, painting, walking, or any other activity involving going inward. No iPhone present. Constant (and instant) connection has resulted in me squirming in my own body during the first few moments of conscious solitude, grasping for anything to entertain myself — a book, watercolors, exercise, cooking, talking to myself. At first, I may judge my grasping as though I am trying to distract myself from being “truly alone.” I then soon realize my ability to entertain myself and I smile, even laugh. I think I’m fun (and sometimes funny). I now relish those moments where I am able to entertain myself, disconnected from the rest of the world, becoming my own best friend. I connect with myself most in these moments, though I need to be intentional about initially setting aside that time. Spending time alone is not the default for many of us. But perhaps that makes us appreciate it more? So long as we can crawl out of the discomfort and avoid spiraling. Each time is easier, growing more comfortable with the discomfort. The value of stillness and solitude becomes more apparent, more obvious, as it did for Gena during her travel sabbatical. Ultimately leading to a drastic career change, Gena was able to lean in to her discomfort, savor it, get to know herself more deeply, and come out the other side as a more integrated person. I encourage you all to set aside some time in the near future to be in solitude. Flip to airplane mode. But remember to be kind to yourself if you start to spiral or reach for your phone. Living in a state of solitude is not normal in 2022. It will get easier. You do a brave thing. Reflection Prompts: * When was the last time you felt truly alone and disconnected? How did it feel? * If you could travel alone to anywhere in the world, where would you go? * What activities in your life do you enjoy doing alone? How can you do more of those each week? Links Mentioned in the Pod (and others I’m enjoying): * Gena's website (https://www.genachieco.com/) and instagram (https://www.instagram.com/moonlight_musings_/) * Byron Katie & The Work (https://thework.com/) * Marth Beck's life coach training program (https://marthabeck.com/life-coach-training/) * The Overstory by Richard Powers (https://bookshop.org/a/80543/9780393356687) * The Hoffman Institute (https://www.hoffmaninstitute.org) — I recently completed the Hoffman 2-Day Essentials program and it was mind expanding * This list of 15 best hikes in Southern California (https://www.shedreamsofalpine.com/blog/best-hikes-southern-california?utm_source=ActiveCampaign&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Gear+%2B+Benefits+%3D+Get+Outside+%28April+Roundup%29&utm_campaign=%5BNewsletter%5D+April+Blog+Roundup+%28All+Engaged+except+STS%29) * Open source “map” of forest sounds across the world (https://timberfestival.org.uk/soundsoftheforest-soundmap/?utm_content=null&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Tuesday%20Email&utm_term=4ABCD) (SO COOL) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theundefined.substack.com (https://theundefined.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

2. 

   16 Feb 2022

   Connecting to Your Whole Self

   Hi Friends! Today, I am excited to share my conversation with Arianna Maag (https://www.ariannamaag.com), a Human Design reader and Program Manager of Employee Experience at Microsoft. Arianna and I met each other through our mutual friend, Michelle Pellizzon (founder of Holisticism (https://www.holisticism.com/about) and one of the most magical humans I know...truly she’s a wizard/witch), who introduced us when I ventured up to Portland at the start of 2021. From our first coffee date (very early in the morning...thank you, Arianna, for being down with that), we instantly connected. Both Arianna and I have two very distinct sides to ourselves and I admire how Arianna has made a career out of both. On the one hand, she is a boss at Microsoft, creating positive employee experiences in a corporate environment. On the other, she is a mystical Human Design reader, using her intuition and knowledge about how the stars and planets line up to help people connect with themselves. Both sides involve people, which is not surprising if you know Arianna - an extremely warm, joyful, host of all gatherings. Arianna and her husband, Eric, moved from the Bay Area to Newberg, Oregon, a town about an hour away from Portland, in wine country. On their property, which features a log cabin house, you can also find grape vines and garden snakes underneath rocks surrounding a picnic table where they host gatherings consisting of farm-fresh food and playful company. The couple, with their two adorable boys, models how many of us dream to live - escaping the city life, to a life more full of authentic and slowed-down connection to the earth. Meeting Arianna has inspired me to discover how I can feel more connected to both sides of myself. As many of you know, one part of me practices law, while the other practices creativity and spirituality. If you spoke to me a few years ago, you’d likely know that the highly rigid and diligent attorney dominated, completely overshadowing the creative and spiritual. Throughout the past few years, however, each side has learned the language of the other. They can speak to each other now. Are kind to each other. And, most importantly, they understand that although they may look, act, and think differently, they can bring each other into their own worlds without it being so scary. With the creative and spiritual valuing deep human connection, she brings that into the rigid through her mentor/mentee relationships at work, through her relationships with her investigation teams, and through connecting with her clients in an impactful way. On the flip side of the coin, with the rigid and “type A” valuing systems of organization, she brings processes to her creative art-making, diligence to her self-care practices, and accountability to how she connects with a higher power. We all have these two sides to ourselves. One side is no better, or stronger, or more successful than the other. I encourage you to reflect on the following, which I hope will bridge the connection between the two seemingly distinct sides: * What are three adjectives that describe each side? Or perhaps you have more than two sides. Describe all of them. * Who inspires you to live your life in a more integrated way? Which qualities of this person can you adopt? How? * How do you think each side could show more compassion to the opposing side? How do they help each other? Some Related and Fun Links: * Mybodygraph (https://www.mybodygraph.com) (where you can find your Human Design chart - it is kind of confusing and I’m happy to walk anyone through it, just reply to this email) * Arianna’s website (https://www.ariannamaag.com) (where you can book a reading) and her Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/beforeipivot/) * The Art of Gathering by Priya Parker (https://bookshop.org/a/80543/9781594634932) (what Arianna was reading when we recorded) * The Goldfinch by Donna Tartt (https://bookshop.org/a/80543/9780316055420) (what I’m currently reading - absolutely epic novel gifted to me by my friend and former co-clerk, Anya) * Talking To Strangers by Malcolm Gladwell (https://bookshop.org/a/80543/9780316478526) (the non-fiction I’m currently reading) * The Isolation Journals (https://theisolationjournals.substack.com/?r=3str5) by Suleika Jaouad (a beautiful newsletter I’ve been loving lately) * Vanity Fair’s recent The Second Coming of Guru Jagat (https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2021/11/the-second-coming-of-guru-jagat?utm_source=emailoctopus&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=January%2019%2C%202022%20-%20🛒%20The%20Making%20of%20Modern%20Consumerism) by Hayley Phelan (super eerie, especially when I drive past Ra Ma Yoga on Lincoln - thanks, Michelle, for linking to this in The Cusp (https://www.holisticism.com/the-cusp)) * This really awesome class taught by Emmalea Russo (https://emmalearusso.com/upcomingclasses) about dark mysticism and angels that Jonathan and I are taking together This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theundefined.substack.com (https://theundefined.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

3. 

   4 Jan 2022

   Psychedelic-Assisted Therapy with Dr. Eric Sienknecht

   Hi! and Happy New Year! Go 2022! Today I share my conversation with Dr. Eric Sienknecht, psychologist and founder of the Polaris Insight Center, a Ketamine-assisted psychotherapy clinic in San Francisco. We talk about a wide variety of topics in this episode, including: * Developing an individual identity while being an identical twin * Healing through experiencing non-ordinary states of consciousness * Psychedelic therapy, including Ketamine-assisted therapy * Growing up in Tennessee and attending an all-boys Christian high school * Experiences with bullying by peers and teachers * Mystical experiences * Detaching from your emotions * Holding space and self-care through mindfulness and listening to music If you listened to the clip attached to this e-mail, you’ll know that we talk about how our experiences are governed by the information coming through our bodies (i.e., through our five senses). But what about what happens when the body is taken “offline” and when those senses are numbed? What is left? I had a particularly notable experience where it felt like my body was taken offline (in the best way) right after Thanksgiving — when Jonathan proposed. The moment felt almost out of body in the sense that I no longer was “in control” of my emotions. Tears, laughter, and pure joy flooded through my body, almost creating a vibrating sensation, as if the emotional energy inside of me couldn’t stop moving. But I didn’t feel it just inside of me, I felt it surrounding me, as if my environment disappeared, as if the boundary between my body and my environment did not exist. I had tunnel vision, I heard no sounds other than the sounds directly in front of me, the rest of the beach we stood on disappeared. My emotional experience in that moment felt detached from my body, but also so in my body at the same time. How was this possible? Perhaps what I experienced was not just emotional, but spiritual as well. There was a connection between myself (not the self attached to my body) and the larger collective whole of the planet that I am a part of, not separate from. After that day, I began to use my meditation practice to bring myself back into that moment. The feelings flooded back to me and I the vibrating all over again. I felt my body go “offline” all over again, and felt connected to whatever is spirit or that something larger all over again. These intensely emotional experiences are rare, and also uniquely human. The fact that we can re-experience them through reflection and meditation is even more uniquely human. Links to this episode: * Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/undefined/id1530117206?i=1000546875448) * Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/episode/0IHIxp9kSQHVuCNzjvW5t7?si=_snptD83TgG1NbOuinVvjw) Inspired by this episode, I invite you to reflect on three questions: * When in your life have you experienced your body going “offline” while still remaining conscious? * Think back to a particularly emotionally-charged moment (positive or negative). What did your body feel like? * How can you stay present in the most emotional of moments such that you can process and re-experience them after the fact through reflection or meditation? And, some links I’ve recently found useful, inspiring, and are related to my episode with Eric: * Polaris Insight Center (https://www.polarisinsight.com/) - this is Eric’s Ketamine-assisted psychotherapy clinic * Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS) (https://maps.org/) - I highly recommend signing up for their newsletter. * Johns Hopkins Center for Psychedelic & Consciousness Research (https://hopkinspsychedelic.org/) - If you are curious about recent (and very promising) research on therapeutic uses for psychedelics. * Dr. Ralph Hood Jr. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_W._Hood), a psychologist who studied non-ordinary states of consciousness and developed the scale to measure mystical experiences * Pahnke's "Good Friday" experiment wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsh_Chapel_Experiment) and thesis (https://maps.org/2006/11/13/good-friday-drugs-mysticism/) * California Institute of Integral Studies (CIIS) (https://www.ciis.edu/) - This is where Eric went to graduate school. CIIS is a leader in training therapists to use psychedelics in their work. * Grof Legacy Project (https://www.grof-legacy-project-usa.org/) - I recently took a course called Sacred Medicine and the Psyche through Pacifica Graduate Institute. The professor, Jay Dufrechou, is very involved in this project, which is devoted to promoting the teachings of Stan Grof. * Philip Wolfson and Julane Andries Ketamine Training Center (https://theketaminetrainingcenter.com/faculty/) - These two researchers and practitioners are pioneers in the space. * Aldous Huxley's (https://bookshop.org/books/the-doors-of-perception-and-heaven-and-hell/9780061729072)The Doors of Perception (https://bookshop.org/a/80543/9780061729072) - Huxley was totally ahead of his time. This book is an autobiographical account of Huxley’s experience under the influence of Mescaline. * Eli Kolp and Evgeny Krupitsky's study regarding treating addiction with Ketamine-assisted therapy (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/261697439_Entheogen-enhanced_transpersonal_psychotherapy_of_addictions_Focus_on_clinical_applications_of_ketamine_for_treating_alcoholism) * Ketamine Papers (https://maps.org/product/the-ketamine-papers/) by Phil Wolfs and Glen Hartelius * The Microdose (https://themicrodose.substack.com/) newsletter from the UC Berkeley Center for the Science of Psychedelics - HIGHLY recommend signing up. My last ask is (and, yes, this is semi-awkward for me) if you enjoy reading my emails and/or listening to my podcast, could forward this newsletter to a few people who you think may enjoy it too? Thank you all for reading, and hopefully listening! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theundefined.substack.com (https://theundefined.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

4. 

   23 Nov 2021

   Surrendering In The Wilderness

   Hello hello! Hopefully this e-mail will give your brain a little break from withholding from all of the holiday-related shopping sale e-mails flooding your inbox… Today, I released the 12th episode of Undefined, featuring my conversation with Dan Doty, a coach and guide for men, organizations, and leaders. Dan's programs focus on a unique blend of wilderness expeditions, deep somatic awareness, and emotional maturity. Before venturing out on his own (semi-pun intended), he produced and directed a wilderness TV show called Apex Predator and founded a men’s group/community platform called Evryman (https://evryman.com/). Dan has been featured on many other podcasts and media outlets (https://dandoty.com/featuredmedia), including Joe Rogan, the Today Show, the New York Times, Men’s Health, among others. I was introduced to Dan by my friend Jon Marro, thanks Jon :), who I interviewed on episode 3 of the pod (that interview took place inside a barn, so if you’re in the mood to hear a cow moo, queue it up). As you may guess, my podcast can be found where they’re normally found: Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/25da9d1otvjs3yMczs792Q?si=22b233bb86a24b68), Apple (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/undefined/id1530117206), and wherever else you might listen. And I successfully figured out how to include a short clip in this newsletter (woot woot so tech savvy). In this episode, Dan and I share conversation about vulnerability—particularly male vulnerability—and how Dan returned to himself through somatic meditation. But what stuck with me most was our conversation about surrendering in the wilderness. I had an experience last summer when I camped alone in the Santa Cruz mountains. Even though I had pepper spray and a very blunt pocket knife with me, I slept in a vulnerable position. The walls of my tent easily could be cut through—or clawed through. My outdoor survival skills do not receive an A+*. And I regularly play out very vivid narratives of someone breaking into my house by climbing into my bedroom via a rope attached to my balcony spy style. And those narratives come up when I’m home. In a legitimate structure. Not a tent. But despite that, I somehow surrendered to the unknown, the uncertainty, and the darkness that fell over my camp site as the sun hid behind the mountains. I felt at peace. At home. And my mind finally fell silent. Ironically, as I proceeded up the coast and stayed in an airbnb (not a tent) in Arcata, California, my intruder anxiety ran rampant. Noticing this paradox, I questioned whether I have an allergy to modern society. It felt effortless to feel calm when surrounded by trees. Only when I removed myself from our human world, did I realize that the barriers to this peace that normally do exist only exist because of the human world itself. So of course it felt effortless to surrender to presence, to the beauty that surrounded me, when the human world grew farther away. And now that I’m back in my human world, the challenge I face is bringing this ease of surrender to my living room, to my office, to restaurants, to the 405 freeway, and to everywhere else I go that feels far away from the forest. I remind myself that this ease of surrender exists within me regardless of where I am. As Dan talks about in this podcast episode, he found surrender while meditating in a NYC building. While hearing the sirens and the traffic and the helicopters and the honking, Dan surrendered and returned to himself. Just as he did in the wilderness. On a related note, Tabor is now up to 10 minutes of alone time without having a full blown panic attack and destroying the house. Tabor is a dog, not a human. But a very emotional boy and an old soul. And for those of you who have met him, a “leaner.” All we know about his first year of life is that he spend it as a stray in El Centro, California. Perhaps Tabor is craving the wilderness. Perhaps he finds it easier to surrender in the trees, away from our human world. Just like I do. As his path to surrender regardless of his environment becomes easier, mine does too. Photo of him at the beach below. And, lastly, some fun things I’ve recently read: * This fascinating article (https://www.age-of-the-sage.org/archaeology/otzi_the_iceman.html) about Otzi the Iceman * Anyone else feel the intensity of last week’s full moon/eclipse? Chani (https://chaninicholas.com/horoscopes/) always knows best. * Affirmation from Scientific Reports (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-01811-4) that adults who microdose psychedelics report health related motivations and lower levels of anxiety and depression compared to non-microdosers. Who’s down? I hope everyone has a wonderful Thanksgiving holiday, surrounded by love and family and friends. And, of course, I wish you all ease of surrender to quiet your minds and return to yourselves. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theundefined.substack.com (https://theundefined.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

5. 

   9 Feb 2021

   Open-Heartedness and Embracing Uncertainty with Rabbi Sarah Krinsky

   Today I share my conversation with my close friend of almost 18 years, Rabbi Sarah Krinsky of Adas Israel in Washington D.C. Topics Discussed Collective trauma Connecting and leading a community during the pandemic Moving between sacred spaces Jewish practice of Mussar Knowing who we are vs. changing who we are The desire to be accepted Holding space and entering into someone else's trauma Guilt from self-care Discovering yourself and opening yourself up in partnership Getting comfortable with uncertainty and letting go of control The concept of divinity and "source" Links https://www.instagram.com/sykrinsky/ (https://www.instagram.com/sykrinsky/) (Sarah's Instagram) https://www.facebook.com/sarahykrinsky (https://www.facebook.com/sarahykrinsky) (Sarah's Facebook) https://www.adasisrael.org/ (https://www.adasisrael.org/) (Adas Israel Congregation) https://bookshop.org/books/a-visit-from-the-goon-squad/9780307477477 (https://bookshop.org/books/a-visit-from-the-goon-squad/9780307477477) (A Visit From the Goon Squad by Jennifer Egan) https://mussarinstitute.org/ (https://mussarinstitute.org/) (The Mussar Institute) Link to my https://www.instagram.com/marisatashman/ (https://www.instagram.com/marisatashman/) (Instagram), https://www.marisatashman.com/ (https://www.marisatashman.com/) (photography website), https://www.undefinedpodcast.com/ (https://www.undefinedpodcast.com/) (podcast website), and https://www.patreon.com/undefinedpodcast (https://www.patreon.com/undefinedpodcast) (Patreon). As always, thank you to https://www.instagram.com/goodcompanymgmt/ (https://www.instagram.com/goodcompanymgmt/) (Maytav Koter) and https://moseycreative.com/ (https://moseycreative.com/) (Spencer Stewart) for the music on my podcast. And to https://www.instagram.com/llllll.aura/ (https://www.instagram.com/llllll.aura/) (Laura Strohbusch) for the podcast graphic. Support this podcast (https://www.patreon.com/undefinedpodcast) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theundefined.substack.com (https://theundefined.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

6. 

   19 Jan 2021

   Staying in Flow with Yahrodee Rodriguez

   Today, I share my conversation with Yahrodee Rodriguez, musician, producer, New York City public school teacher, and graduate of Juilliard (studying the trumpet!). Topics Discussed: Embracing "aloneness" Staying in flow Male sensitivity Experiencing feeling lost Rejected aspects of the self Yahrodee's journey as a musician Feeding off of other people's energy Supporting yourself during periods of isolation Leaning into spirituality Mentalism Spiritual bypassing Working through stage fright and anxiety Finding mentorship Balancing extremes - being in the middle of the river Links https://www.instagram.com/yahrodee/ (https://www.instagram.com/yahrodee/) (Yahrodee's Instagram) https://soundcloud.com/yahrodee/section-a?ref=clipboard&p=i&c=1 (https://soundcloud.com/yahrodee/section-a?ref=clipboard&p=i&c=1) (Yahrodee's Soundcloud) https://www.instagram.com/rp_meretalents/ (https://www.instagram.com/rp_meretalents/) (Ray Persaud - check out his work) https://bookshop.org/books/the-ancient-secret-of-the-flower-of-life/9781891824173 (https://bookshop.org/books/the-ancient-secret-of-the-flower-of-life/9781891824173) (The Ancient Secret of the Flower of Life) by Drunvalo Melchizedek https://bookshop.org/books/the-jazz-of-physics-the-secret-link-between-music-and-the-structure-of-the-universe-9781520078151/9780465093571 (https://bookshop.org/books/the-jazz-of-physics-the-secret-link-between-music-and-the-structure-of-the-universe-9781520078151/9780465093571) (The Jazz of Physics) by Stephon Alexander https://bookshop.org/books/the-kybalion-centenary-edition/9780143131687 (https://bookshop.org/books/the-kybalion-centenary-edition/9780143131687) (The Kybalion) by The Three Initiates https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6xtcQDPF20 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6xtcQDPF20) (Ham On Rye movie) https://bookshop.org/books/war-against-all-puerto-ricans-revolution-and-terror-in-america-s-colony/9781568585611 (https://bookshop.org/books/war-against-all-puerto-ricans-revolution-and-terror-in-america-s-colony/9781568585611) (War Against All Puerto Ricans: Revolution and Terror in America's Colony) by Nelson A. Denis Link to my https://www.instagram.com/marisatashman/ (https://www.instagram.com/marisatashman/) (Instagram), https://www.marisatashman.com/ (https://www.marisatashman.com/) (photography website), https://www.undefinedpodcast.com/ (https://www.undefinedpodcast.com/) (podcast website), and https://www.patreon.com/undefinedpodcast (https://www.patreon.com/undefinedpodcast) (Patreon). As always, thank you to https://www.instagram.com/goodcompanymgmt/ (https://www.instagram.com/goodcompanymgmt/) (Maytav Koter) and https://moseycreative.com/ (https://moseycreative.com/) (Spencer Stewart) for the music on my podcast. And to https://my.captivate.fm/laurastrohbusch.com (https://my.captivate.fm/laurastrohbusch.com) (Laura Strohbusch) for the podcast graphic Support this podcast (https://www.patreon.com/undefinedpodcast) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theundefined.substack.com (https://theundefined.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

7. 

   5 Jan 2021

   What Comes In When You Create Space With Hayley Gene Penner

   Today I share my conversation with Hayley Gene Penner, singer, songwriter, and author of the new memoir People You Follow, which explores Hayley's relationships - from her childhood as the daughter of a celebrity to the coercive relationship with her boss. Hayley's stories of questionable sexual encounters, artistic aspirations, and emotional abuse trace her coming of age in the music industry. Topics Pretending to be someone else / putting on an act Accessing your value as a partner Expressing anger Being the "cool" girl Having gratitude for all of life's experiences Forgiveness and compassion Re-framing failure and defining success What comes in when you create space Integrating feelings of freedom after escaping from a controlling situation Links https://bookshop.org/books/people-you-follow-a-memoir/9781459747142 (https://bookshop.org/books/people-you-follow-a-memoir/9781459747142) (Hayley's book - People You Follow) https://www.instagram.com/hayleygenepenner/ (https://www.instagram.com/hayleygenepenner/) (Hayley's Instagram) https://open.spotify.com/artist/1ytHo44bNtIESiArfclJPe?si=epJA8YS0SyOesgxEtiapiA (https://open.spotify.com/artist/1ytHo44bNtIESiArfclJPe?si=epJA8YS0SyOesgxEtiapiA) (Hayley on Spotify) https://apps.apple.com/us/app/the-pattern/id1071085727 (https://apps.apple.com/us/app/the-pattern/id1071085727) (The Pattern iPhone App) https://open.spotify.com/episode/3zFwVOqiZcE0xbJ0sVm9yO?si=sRatuJgYQ6GOzFsjjoyj5w (https://open.spotify.com/episode/3zFwVOqiZcE0xbJ0sVm9yO?si=sRatuJgYQ6GOzFsjjoyj5w) (Undefined Episode 2 - discussing the "cool girl") https://www.netflix.com/title/80216393 (https://www.netflix.com/title/80216393) (David Attenborough's A Life On Our Planet) Link to my https://www.instagram.com/marisatashman/ (https://www.instagram.com/marisatashman/) (Instagram), https://www.marisatashman.com/ (https://www.marisatashman.com/) (photography website), https://www.undefinedpodcast.com/ (https://www.undefinedpodcast.com/) (podcast website). As always, thank you to https://www.instagram.com/goodcompanymgmt/ (https://www.instagram.com/goodcompanymgmt/) (Maytav Koter) and https://moseycreative.com/ (https://moseycreative.com/) (Spencer Stewart) for the music on my podcast. And to https://my.captivate.fm/laurastrohbusch.com (https://my.captivate.fm/laurastrohbusch.com) (Laura Strohbusch) for the podcast graphic. Support this podcast (https://www.patreon.com/undefinedpodcast) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theundefined.substack.com (https://theundefined.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

8. 

   15 Dec 2020

   Spiritual Boundaries and Protecting Your Energy with Lauren McAlpin

   Today I share my conversation with Lauren McAlpin, an educator, tarot card reader and soon-to-be deck author, reiki practitioner, psychic channel, and graduate student in psychology at Harvard. Topics Developing your "clairs" (heightening your intuitive abilities) Lauren's intuitive gifts Overcoming a debilitating illness Experiencing communicating with their father's spirit Protecting your energy from your own energy Balancing their multiple sides: the mystical/spiritual side and type A side Spiritual boundaries Being conditioned to never rest Indications of overwhelm Inspiration for Lauren's new tarot card deck: Tales of the Black Tarot Exploring their lineage and being adopted The label of "being non-binary" and sexuality overshadowing gender Links https://www.instagram.com/lauren.mcalpin/ (https://www.instagram.com/lauren.mcalpin/) (Lauren's Instagram) https://www.instagram.com/fogandreign/ (https://www.instagram.com/fogandreign/) (Fog + Reign Instagram) https://www.laurenmcalpin.com/ (https://www.laurenmcalpin.com/) (Lauren's website) https://www.talesoftheblacktarot.com/ (https://www.talesoftheblacktarot.com/) (Tales of the Black Tarot website) https://bookshop.org/books/pamela-colman-smith-the-untold-story/9781572819122 (https://bookshop.org/books/pamela-colman-smith-the-untold-story/9781572819122) (Pamela Colman Smith: The Untold Story) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rider-Waite_tarot_deck (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rider-Waite_tarot_deck) (Rider-Waite Tarot Deck) https://www.mediumfleur.com/ (https://www.mediumfleur.com/) (Medium Fleur) https://bookshop.org/books/365-days-of-hoodoo-daily-rootwork-mojo-conjuration/9780738747842 (https://bookshop.org/books/365-days-of-hoodoo-daily-rootwork-mojo-conjuration/9780738747842) (365 Days of Hoodoo by Stephanie Rose Bird) https://bookshop.org/books/a-cultural-history-of-tarot-from-entertainment-to-esotericism/9781788314916 (https://bookshop.org/books/a-cultural-history-of-tarot-from-entertainment-to-esotericism/9781788314916) (A Cultural History of Tarot by Helen Farley) As always, thank you to https://www.instagram.com/goodcompanymgmt/ (https://www.instagram.com/goodcompanymgmt/) (Maytav Koter) and https://moseycreative.com/ (https://moseycreative.com/) (Spencer Stewart) for the music on my podcast. And to https://my.captivate.fm/laurastrohbusch.com (https://my.captivate.fm/laurastrohbusch.com) (Laura Strohbusch) for the podcast graphic. Support this podcast (https://www.patreon.com/undefinedpodcast) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theundefined.substack.com (https://theundefined.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

9. 

   1 Dec 2020

   Moving from "Tetris" to "Jenga" with Jordan Sale

   In today's episode, I share my conversation with Jordan Sale, founder of 81cents - a negotiating platform designed to help close pay gaps for women and underrepresented minorities. Topics Discussed: Untying your work from your identity Navigating guilt from self-care Pressure to perform The line between rigidity and fluidity Mission-driven work Starting 81cents Over-committing yourself and what that feels like The narrative and re-framing the stories we tell ourselves Letting out emotions rather than keeping them in your head Practicing authenticity and self-awareness Having a gratitude practice Links: https://www.81cents.com/ (https://www.81cents.com/) (81cents) website https://www.instagram.com/81_cents/ (https://www.instagram.com/81_cents/) (81cents Instagram) https://www.notion.so/Welcome-to-the-81cents-Resource-Library-17c0817a6b6b459082b0375a0b877736 (https://www.notion.so/Welcome-to-the-81cents-Resource-Library-17c0817a6b6b459082b0375a0b877736) (81cents Resource Library) (on Notion!) https://www.instagram.com/jorpunsale/ (https://www.instagram.com/jorpunsale/) (Jordan's Pun Instagram) https://bookshop.org/books/just-mercy-a-story-of-justice-and-redemption/9780812984965 (https://bookshop.org/books/just-mercy-a-story-of-justice-and-redemption/9780812984965) (Just Mercy) by Bryan Stevenson and the https://eji.org/ (https://eji.org/) (Equal Justice Initiative) https://bookshop.org/books/smart-people-should-build-things-how-to-restore-our-culture-of-achievement-build-a-path-for-entrepreneurs-and-create-new-jobs-in-america/9780062292049 (https://bookshop.org/books/smart-people-should-build-things-how-to-restore-our-culture-of-achievement-build-a-path-for-entrepreneurs-and-create-new-jobs-in-america/9780062292049) (Smart People Should Build Things) by Andrew Yang https://bookshop.org/books/somebody-should-have-told-us-simple-truths-for-living-well/9781926918266 (https://bookshop.org/books/somebody-should-have-told-us-simple-truths-for-living-well/9781926918266) (Somebody Should Have Told Us!: Simple Truths for Living Well) by Jack Pransky https://bookshop.org/books/the-gifts-of-imperfection-let-go-of-who-you-think-you-re-supposed-to-be-and-embrace-who-you-are/9781592858491 (https://bookshop.org/books/the-gifts-of-imperfection-let-go-of-who-you-think-you-re-supposed-to-be-and-embrace-who-you-are/9781592858491) (The Gifts of Imperfection) by Brené Brown As always, thank you to https://www.instagram.com/goodcompanymgmt/ (https://www.instagram.com/goodcompanymgmt/) (Maytav Koter) and https://moseycreative.com/ (https://moseycreative.com/) (Spencer Stewart) for the music on my podcast. And to https://my.captivate.fm/laurastrohbusch.com (https://my.captivate.fm/laurastrohbusch.com) (Laura Strohbusch) for the podcast graphic. Support this podcast (https://www.patreon.com/undefinedpodcast) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theundefined.substack.com (https://theundefined.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

10. 

    27 Oct 2020

    Reclaiming the Label "Fat" with EB Meerson

    Today I share my conversation with EB Meerson, a high school teacher and founder of Maison de Meerson, a personal styling consulting service for people size 16+ who reclaim the label "fat." Topics: Challenges of being a first generation American EB's near death experience and how that sparked deep gratitude for her body Holding trauma in the body Diet culture and systems of supremacy How "beauty" has been replaced by "health" Reclaiming the label "fat" EB's personal styling consulting company How being a teacher is a mirror Links: Maison de Meerson https://www.maisondemeerson.com/ (https://www.maisondemeerson.com/) (Website) and https://www.instagram.com/maisondemeerson/ (https://www.instagram.com/maisondemeerson/) (Instagram) https://www.sabrinastrings.com/ (https://www.sabrinastrings.com/) (Sabrina Strings) https://bookshop.org/books/fearing-the-black-body-the-racial-origins-of-fat-phobia/9781479886753 (https://bookshop.org/books/fearing-the-black-body-the-racial-origins-of-fat-phobia/9781479886753) (Fearing the Black Body: The Racial Origins of Fat Phobia) https://www.wired.com/story/covid-19-does-not-discriminate-by-body-weight/ (https://www.wired.com/story/covid-19-does-not-discriminate-by-body-weight/) (Christy Harrison's article COVID-19 Does Not Discriminate by Body Weight) https://www.thisamericanlife.org/589/tell-me-im-fat (https://www.thisamericanlife.org/589/tell-me-im-fat) (Lindy West coming out as "fat" on This American Life) https://www.jibrionline.com/ (https://www.jibrionline.com/) (JIBRI designer) Simi Botic's https://www.simibotic.com/ (https://www.simibotic.com/) (Website) and https://www.instagram.com/simibotic/ (https://www.instagram.com/simibotic/) (Instagram) https://bookshop.org/books/untamed-9781984801258/9781984801258 (https://bookshop.org/books/untamed-9781984801258/9781984801258) (Glennon Doyle's Untamed) https://bookshop.org/books/playing-in-the-dark-whiteness-and-the-literary-imagination/9780679745426 (https://bookshop.org/books/playing-in-the-dark-whiteness-and-the-literary-imagination/9780679745426) (Toni Morrison's Playing in the Dark) List of EB's recommended Instagram accounts to follow: https://www.instagram.com/gabifresh/ (https://www.instagram.com/gabifresh/) (@gabifresh) https://www.instagram.com/yrfatfriend/ (https://www.instagram.com/yrfatfriend/) (@yrfatfriend) https://www.instagram.com/thebodyisnotanapology/ (https://www.instagram.com/thebodyisnotanapology/) (@thebodyisnotanapology) https://www.instagram.com/roseybeeme/ (https://www.instagram.com/roseybeeme/) (@roseybeeme )https://www.instagram.com/theplusbus/ (https://www.instagram.com/theplusbus/) (@theplusbus) https://www.instagram.com/modachrome/ (https://www.instagram.com/modachrome/) (@modachrome) https://www.instagram.com/therealmrskelley/ (https://www.instagram.com/therealmrskelley/) (@therealmrskelley )https://www.instagram.com/marielle.elizabeth/ (https://www.instagram.com/marielle.elizabeth/) (@marielle.elizabeth) https://www.instagram.com/itsmekellieb/ (https://www.instagram.com/itsmekellieb/) (@itsmekellieb) https://www.instagram.com/thisisjessicatorres/ (https://www.instagram.com/thisisjessicatorres/) (@thisisjessicatorres) As always, thank you to https://www.instagram.com/goodcompanymgmt/ (https://www.instagram.com/goodcompanymgmt/) (Maytav Koter) and https://moseycreative.com/ (https://moseycreative.com/) (Spencer Stewart) for the music on my podcast. And to https://my.captivate.fm/laurastrohbusch.com (https://my.captivate.fm/laurastrohbusch.com) (Laura Strohbusch) for the podcast graphic. Support this podcast (https://www.patreon.com/undefinedpodcast) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theundefined.substack.com (https://theundefined.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

11. 

    13 Oct 2020

    Permission to Feel with Simi Botic

    Today I share my conversation with Simi Botic, an intuitive eating counselor, women's empowerment coach, author of Letting Go of Leo: How I Broke Up with Perfection, and founder of Unmeasured Barre. Topics Covered: Giving yourself permission to feel emotions Self-compassion People pleasing Women's empowerment When life and death happens at the same time Doula training with Latham Thomas at Mama Glow Links: https://www.instagram.com/simibotic/ (https://www.instagram.com/simibotic/) (Simi's Instagram) https://www.simibotic.com/ (https://www.simibotic.com/) (Simi's Website) https://unmeasured.simibotic.com/ (https://unmeasured.simibotic.com/) (Unmeasured Barre) https://bookshop.org/books/letting-go-of-leo-how-i-broke-up-with-perfection-9781504392709/9781504392709 (https://bookshop.org/books/letting-go-of-leo-how-i-broke-up-with-perfection-9781504392709/9781504392709) (Simi's Book) https://mamaglow.com/ (https://mamaglow.com/) (Latham Thomas Mama Glow doula training) https://www.instagram.com/mamaglow/ (https://www.instagram.com/mamaglow/) (Mama Glow instagram) https://www.janetlansbury.com/ (https://www.janetlansbury.com/) (Janet Lansbury) - https://www.amazon.com/No-Bad-Kids-Toddler-Discipline/dp/1499351119 (https://www.amazon.com/No-Bad-Kids-Toddler-Discipline/dp/1499351119) (book No Bad Kids); https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/respectful-parenting-janet-lansbury-unruffled/id1030050704 (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/respectful-parenting-janet-lansbury-unruffled/id1030050704) (podcast Unruffled) https://www.instagram.com/p/CEc-vwZhZ_D/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/CEc-vwZhZ_D/) (Instagram post re: emotional intelligence ) As always, thank you to https://www.instagram.com/goodcompanymgmt/ (https://www.instagram.com/goodcompanymgmt/) (Maytav Koter) and https://moseycreative.com/ (https://moseycreative.com/) (Spencer Stewart) for the music on my podcast. And to https://my.captivate.fm/laurastrohbusch.com (https://my.captivate.fm/laurastrohbusch.com) (Laura Strohbusch) for the podcast graphic. Support this podcast (https://www.patreon.com/undefinedpodcast) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theundefined.substack.com (https://theundefined.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

12. 

    29 Sept 2020

    Making "Something" Into "Everything" with Jon Marro

    In today's episode, I talk with Jon Marro, an extremely talented artist, filmmaker, the author of Keepers of Color and Holden Hugs the World, and the resident creative genius for the Cafe Gratitude, Gracias Madre, and Be Love Farm family. Jon and I recorded this episode live, while I was staying on the Be Love Farm, so you will likely hear some farm noises like tractors, cows mooing, dogs barking, people talking, and children laughing. Topics Covered: The feeling of being in "alignment" with who you are Jon's journey as an artist Giving your entire attention to a task How integrity is transferred into Jon's art Relying on external sources for connection to source Becoming your own "guru" Disconnecting in order to reconnect Ideas as entities Making art in response to darkness Optimism Holding space for others Destruction for destruction's sake Learning how to rest Links: https://www.instagram.com/jonmarro/ (https://www.instagram.com/jonmarro/) (Jon's Instagram) https://jonmarro.com/ (https://jonmarro.com/) (Jon's website) https://jonmarro.com/jmshop/ (https://jonmarro.com/jmshop/) (Holden Hugs store) https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781501167676 (https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781501167676) (The Keepers of Color book) https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781734190694 (https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781734190694) (Holden Hugs the World book) https://www.instagram.com/terces/ (https://www.instagram.com/terces/) (Terces Engelhart Instagram) https://www.belovefarm.com/ (https://www.belovefarm.com/) (Be Love Farm) https://www.instagram.com/cafegratitude/ (https://www.instagram.com/cafegratitude/) (Cafe Gratitude) https://www.instagram.com/graciasmadresocal/ (https://www.instagram.com/graciasmadresocal/) (Gracias Madre) http://bayoakomolafe.net/ (http://bayoakomolafe.net/) (Poet Bayo Akomolafe) https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780698410961 (https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780698410961) (Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert) https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781603588133 (https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781603588133) (Call of the Reed Warbler by Charles Massy) https://www.instagram.com/natureismetal/ (https://www.instagram.com/natureismetal/) (Nature is Metal Instagram) https://open.spotify.com/album/1GfVP5px88FUJ2TSW7uWmu (https://open.spotify.com/album/1GfVP5px88FUJ2TSW7uWmu) (Pop Sutras album by Nadav) As always, thank you to https://www.instagram.com/goodcompanymgmt/ (https://www.instagram.com/goodcompanymgmt/) (Maytav Koter) and https://moseycreative.com/ (https://moseycreative.com/) (Spencer Stewart) for the music on my podcast. And to Laura Strohbusch for the podcast graphic. Support this podcast (https://www.patreon.com/undefinedpodcast) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theundefined.substack.com (https://theundefined.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

13. 

    15 Sept 2020

    The Tension Between Seeking Belonging and Authenticity with Julia Stephanides

    In today's episode, I talk with Julia Stephanides, a lawyer fighting for the rights of writers at the Writers Guild of America. Topics Discussed: Societal conditioning to be an extrovert Challenges of being a lawyer on a spiritual path Defining yourself by your emotions Tension between the desire to belong and practicing authenticity Pressure to be the "cool girl" Beauty of being an empath Concept of being "nobody" Links: https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781415959138 (https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781415959138) (Quiet by Susan Cain) https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781683642114 (https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781683642114) (The Empath's Survival Guide by Judith Orloff) https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781572245372 (https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781572245372) (The Untethered Soul by Michael Singer) https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780812985818 (https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780812985818) (Braving the Wilderness by Brene Brown) https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780316420358 (https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780316420358) (Anti-Diet by Christy Harrison) https://www.maryamajayi.com/ (https://www.maryamajayi.com/) (Breathwork with Maryam Ajayi) https://sundaysangha.net/ (https://sundaysangha.net/) (Will Kabat-Zinn Meditations) As always, thank you to https://www.instagram.com/goodcompanymgmt/ (https://www.instagram.com/goodcompanymgmt/) (Maytav Koter) and https://moseycreative.com/ (https://moseycreative.com/) (Spencer Stewart) for the music on my podcast. Support this podcast (https://www.patreon.com/undefinedpodcast) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theundefined.substack.com (https://theundefined.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

14. 

    2 Sept 2020

    Overcoming Fears and Trusting Your Inner Voice with Sara Ayers

    In today's episode, I talk with Sara Ayers, founder of The Base Body Co., a company that created organic and vegan adaptogenic wellness powders to help you cope with the stressful realities of our environment and culture. Topics Discussed: Increasing your intuition and trusting your inner voice; Being a female founder and overcoming fears of being judged; Defining yourself by your work; Coping with the "hustle" culture of the wellness industry; Daily rituals to stay grounded Being gifted spell books and love potions as a child; Incorporating sound meditation through music; Dating intuitively; The importance of mentorship; and Learning how to stand up for yourself. Relevant Links: https://www.instagram.com/mssayres/ (https://www.instagram.com/mssayres/) (Sara's Instagram) The Base Body Co. https://thebasebodyco.com/ (https://thebasebodyco.com/) (Website) & https://www.instagram.com/thebasebodyco/ (https://www.instagram.com/thebasebodyco/) (Instagram) https://www.createcultivate.com/ (https://www.createcultivate.com/) (Create & Cultivate) https://wavemeditation.com/ (https://wavemeditation.com/) (Wave Meditation App) https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Side-Light-Chasers-Reclaiming/dp/1594485259 (https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Side-Light-Chasers-Reclaiming/dp/1594485259) (Dark Side of Light Chasers) by Debbie Ford https://www.myhumandesign.com/ (https://www.myhumandesign.com/) (Jenna Zoe), human design reader https://centr.com/join-us (https://centr.com/join-us) (Centr) (Chris Hemsworth's company) As always, thank you to https://www.instagram.com/goodcompanymgmt/ (https://www.instagram.com/goodcompanymgmt/) (Maytav Koter) and https://moseycreative.com/ (https://moseycreative.com/) (Spencer Stewart) for the music on my podcast. Support this podcast (https://www.patreon.com/undefinedpodcast) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theundefined.substack.com (https://theundefined.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

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