- 7
- Episodes
- 2025
- First episode
About Using Less Stuff
Explore smart sustainability with the Using Less Stuff Podcast, hosted by Nigel Ward, founder of The Cost Reduction Company. Discover how organisations can reduce costs and environmental impact through behaviour change, smarter purchasing, and sustainable technologies. Join conversations with industry experts and changemakers focused on cutting waste, saving money, and building a culture of resource consciousness. Learn from real-world case studies and practical insights that empower your business to thrive while using fewer resources. Whether you're a business leader or sustainability advocate, you'll gain tools to make meaningful, measurable change. Follow the Using Less Stuff Podcast for powerful strategies in cost reduction and lasting sustainability.
- Publisher
- The Cost Reduction Company
- Category
- business
- Language
- en
- Explicit
- No
- First episode
- 29 Apr 2025
- Latest episode
- 31 Oct 2025
Latest episodes
7 episodes in the feed.

31 Oct 2025
How Prep School Bias Stops Great Leaders from Running Senior Schools with Charlie Carver
In this episode of the ISBA Bursar Conversations, host Nigel Ward in conversation with Charlie Carver, Bursar at Bishopsgate School, talks about the often overlooked but crucial role of bursars in independent schools. The conversation explores the evolving responsibilities, challenges, and strategic thinking required in bursarial leadership particularly in the face of financial pressures, shifting school structures, and post-pandemic dynamics. Charlie brings a rich and varied background to the role. With 23 years of service in the British Army, including operational tours in Iraq and Afghanistan and high-level staff positions, Charlie transitioned into education with a deep commitment to organizational efficiency and purpose. His military experience deeply informs his pragmatic, leadership-driven approach to school management. Expect to Learn - The surprising similarities between military command and school leadership - Why the transition from military to bursarial work is both natural and complex - How prep schools are adapting to demographic shifts, VAT changes, and parent expectations - The challenges of flexible working in educational settings - Strategic insights into outsourcing, school group formations, and future sustainability Episode Breakdown with Timestamps [00:00:00] – Teaser [00:00:58] – Introduction & Charlie’s Education & Military Background [00:09:19] – Transitioning to Civilian Life & Becoming a Bursar [00:14:05] – Challenges of Career Progression in the Education Sector [00:31:37] – Future of the Independent Sector [00:41:50] – Enrollment Pressures & Year Group Strategy [00:49:16] – Governance & Independence [00:55:31] – Closing Thoughts Connect With Charlie Carver on: Linkedin: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/Charlie-carver-a971b822 Follow Bishopsgate School on: Linkedin: https://uk.linkedin.com/school/bishopsgateschool/ Website: https://www.bishopsgateschool.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bishopsgateschool/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bishopsgateschool/ Connect with Nigel Ward on: LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/nigel-ward-author-of-using-less-stuff-88684a25 Follow Using Less Stuff Podcast on Social media: 👉 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheCostReductionCompany 👉 Twitter: https://x.com/The_CRC 👉 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-cost-reduction-company/ 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thecostreductioncompany8128 🙌 Enjoyed this episode? Share it with someone exploring leadership in education or considering a career pivot into schools from the military or corporate world. 📢 Disclaimer: This podcast is for educational purposes only and does not substitute for professional advice.

22 Oct 2025
School Business Management Lessons on Strategy Outsourcing and AI for Leaders with Peter Sircar
In this episode of the ISBA Bursar Conversations, host Nigel Ward welcomes Peter Sircar, Director of Finance & Resources at Hammersmith Academy to unpack lessons learned from decades in international school business management covering growth, strategy, and the future of multi academy trusts. Peter Sircar shares his journey from law to becoming a leader in school business management. He reflects on his experiences across various educational institutions, including overseeing the growth of a large school network and modernizing systems at a prestigious grammar school. Peter highlights his strategic approach to leadership, emphasizing the importance of long-term planning, technology integration, and a people-first mindset. He discusses how his background in law, finance, and IT shaped his role and offers advice for those entering the field of educational business management, stressing resilience, passion, and the need for strategic thinking. Key Takeaways: - From Law to Education Peter shares his early career ambitions to be a human rights lawyer, but a change in circumstances led him to focus on education and school business management. - Lessons from the Largest School Network His work at a large school network, where he helped grow the organization from a few to 100 schools, taught him valuable lessons about school management, HR, payroll, and project management. - Building and Automating Systems Peter combined his legal and finance background to automate processes in education, streamlining operations and introducing new technology. - Leadership in Crisis and Growth Reflecting on his career, Peter highlights his approach to leadership, including managing rapid growth, navigating the death of his father, and balancing work and personal life. - People-Centric Leadership Peter shares a powerful story about improving staff morale and ownership by acknowledging and respecting cleaning staff, showing the importance of appreciation in leadership. - The Role of Strategic Planning Peter discusses how strategic thinking in education management is key. From facilities management to staff development, he stresses the importance of planning for both short- and long-term goals. Key Timestamps: [00:00:00] - Teaser [00:00:58] - Introduction and Peter’s educational background [00:02:11] - Experience at a large school network: growth and challenges [00:06:59] - Balancing personal and professional life [00:09:53] - Leadership lessons and project management in education [00:17:19] - The tension between institutional legacy and business realities [00:23:06] - Peter’s passion for education and the drive to become a bursar [00:25:56] - Advice for transitioning into educational business management [00:27:58] - The importance of outsourcing and streamlining operations [00:34:13] - Managing maintenance, grounds, and in-house teams [00:39:24] - Commercializing school assets and developing new income streams [00:44:42] - Innovations under financial pressure and sustainability models [00:50:55] - The future of school business managers and strategic leadership [00:54:02] - Conclusion Connect Our Guest on: Linkedin: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/petersircar Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/peter.sircar/ Connect with Nigel Ward on: LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/nigel-ward-author-of-using-less-stuff-88684a25 Follow Using Less Stuff Podcast on Social media: 👉 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheCostReductionCompany 👉 Twitter: https://x.com/The_CRC 👉 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-cost-reduction-company/ 👉 YouTube:...

17 Sept 2025
The Business Wake Up in Independent Schools for Leaders to End the Cottage Industry with Owen Adams
In this episode of the ISBA Bursar Conversations, Owen Adams, Bursar at Bradfield College, shares his journey from a 30+ year military career to a strategic leadership role in education. From his time in the Royal Artillery and elite units like the Paras and Commandos to his role as Pro-Vice Chancellor at Durham University, Owen discusses how leadership, adaptability, and operational planning have prepared him to navigate the evolving challenges in independent schools. From managing crises like COVID-19 to spearheading innovations like immersive VR learning and commercializing school assets, Owen brings a unique perspective on the business of education, cultural integration, and the future of the independent school sector. 🔑 Key Takeaways: ✅ Military Experience Builds Transferable Leadership Owen emphasizes that Army training, particularly around coordination, influence, and integration, lays a strong foundation for leadership roles in schools, especially when managing complex communities and resources. ✅ Understanding the Tension Between Tradition and Commercial Viability Schools must balance preserving legacy and values with the need to generate surplus and adopt business-like operations. Owen highlights how this friction is managed daily within leadership roles. ✅ COVID-19 Response as a Test of Coordination and Resilience Bradfield College’s early pivot to digital learning and its comprehensive COVID strategy illustrate how institutional agility and strong teams can overcome crisis. ✅ From Soft Assets to Innovation Hubs Owen argues that schools should think beyond physical facilities and consider monetizing “soft assets” such as internal skills, digital platforms, and IP, like their internally developed VR learning platform. ✅ The Future: Consolidation, Fragmentation, and Hybrid Education With falling demographics and rising costs, Owen foresees fewer, more consolidated schools and more diverse, hybrid education models. Schools must evolve with tech, rethink pricing, and explore partnerships to stay relevant. ⏱️ Key Timestamps: [00:00:00] – The importance of surplus and business-mindedness in independent schools [00:00:43] – Owen’s transition from military to education sector [00:02:17] – Leading student life and services at Durham University [00:04:19] – Growing up in Australia and joining the British Army [00:07:02] – Military operations and the value of collaboration [00:10:19] – Translating Army coordination to school leadership [00:14:00] – Institutional friction vs. business realities [00:21:49] – Bradfield’s COVID response and digital transformation [00:24:10] – Passion for education and desire to be a bursar [00:25:56] – Advice for transitioning professionals entering education [00:32:57] – Involving academic staff in financial and strategic decisions [00:34:41] – Pay-as-you-play models and service modularity [00:36:44] – The future of hybrid learning and tech-based schooling [00:38:09] – In-house VR education: Campus Exile and immersive learning [00:40:32] – Commercializing soft assets and school IP [00:44:42] – Innovation under price pressure: new models of sustainability Connect Our Guest on: LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/owen-adams-aa330928 Website: https://www.bradfieldcollege.org.uk/about/senior-management-team/ Connect with Nigel Ward on: LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/nigel-ward-author-of-using-less-stuff-88684a25 Follow Using Less Stuff Podcast on Social media: 👉 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheCostReductionCompany 👉 Twitter: https://x.com/The_CRC 👉 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-cost-reduction-company/ 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thecostreductioncompany8128 🙌 Enjoyed this...

23 Jul 2025
How Military Leadership Reveals Toxic Culture and Governance Failures in Schools with John Murphie
In this episode of the @thecostreductioncompany8649 (https://studio.youtube.com/channel/UCpV0zxDL2kKpll9Z5tAAvvg) John Murphie, Chief Operating Officer at ISBA, shares his unique journey from a career in the Royal Navy to leadership roles within the education sector. With decades of experience in both military and civilian leadership, John offers an insightful perspective on governance, financial management, and the evolving challenges faced by schools today. From managing internal operations at ISBA to navigating the complexities of school governance, John highlights key lessons on agility in decision-making, strategic financial planning, and the importance of delegation. He also discusses the challenges of managing school finances and the increasing importance of data-driven decision-making in a rapidly changing educational landscape. 🔑 Key Takeaways: ✅ The Power of Agility in Governance John emphasizes the importance of having a flexible and responsive governance structure, where senior leadership teams are deeply involved in decision-making processes. ✅ The Role of Bursars and Heads in Financial Oversight Bursars play a pivotal role in ensuring schools stay financially stable. However, they must also collaborate closely with heads of schools and governors to build trust and effective working relationships. ✅ Managing Change and Delegation Delegation can be difficult, especially when leaders are diligent and want to maintain control. However, successful schools ensure their staff is empowered to take on responsibility and contribute to the school’s broader goals. ✅ The Evolving Role of Schools in Financial Management Schools are facing pressure to justify their fees and provide value for money. John discusses the importance of understanding customer needs and how schools can adapt to stay competitive. ✅ Using Data to Drive Decisions John suggests that schools need to become more data-driven, not just in academic performance but also in assessing the financial health of their institutions and the effectiveness of their resources. ⏱️ Key Timestamps: [00:00:00] – Introduction to John Murphie’s career and leadership journey [00:03:00] – Transitioning from the Royal Navy to the civilian sector [00:06:30] – Insights from working in a cathedral and barristers’ chambers [00:09:45] – The challenges of becoming a bursar at Twyford School [00:13:00] – Financial management and navigating school budgets [00:16:00] – Building trust between bursars, heads, and governors [00:19:30] – The importance of understanding the school’s financial and educational goals [00:23:00] – How change in leadership and structure can impact school operations [00:26:00] – The role of data and technology in improving school management [00:29:00] – The concept of pay-as-you-play and alternative fee structures [00:32:00] – The future of school governance and leadership roles [00:35:30] – Managing wellbeing and work-life balance in leadership roles [00:39:00] – Outsourcing and delegation within school management Connect Our Guest on: Linkedin: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/john-murphie-52aa502b3 (https://uk.linkedin.com/in/john-murphie-52aa502b3) Website: https://www.isbarecruitment.org.uk/Home/News (https://www.isbarecruitment.org.uk/Home/News) Connect with Nigel Ward on: LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/nigel-ward-author-of-using-less-stuff-88684a25 (https://uk.linkedin.com/in/nigel-ward-author-of-using-less-stuff-88684a25) Follow Using Less Stuff...

15 May 2025
Why Outdated Governance is Impacting Schools with Ed Hellings
Ed Hellings shares his leadership and finance insights from corporate and educational roles, discussing simplifying complexity and building resilient school operations in this interview.

9 May 2025
Transitioning from Entrepreneur to School Bursar (and lessons learnt) with Vanessa Lakatos.
Vanessa Lakatos discusses her transition from retail entrepreneur to school bursar, exploring financial risk, leadership, and the evolving role of bursars in education in this interview.

29 Apr 2025
New Episode Coming Soon!
Nigel Ward interviews industry experts and changemakers about how organizations reduce costs and environmental impact through behavior change, smarter purchasing, and sustainable technologies.
Podcast Authority Score: 4 / 100
A composite of feed quality, social presence, YouTube performance and engagement. Read the methodology.
- Quality
- 8
- Social presence
- 0
- YouTube
- 0
- Engagement
- 0
Host of Using Less Stuff?
Claim your podcast to manage its listing and keep your show details accurate.
Pod Engine is an independent podcast discovery and analytics service and is not affiliated with or endorsed by this podcast. Artwork and show content belong to their owners. Full legal notice.
Explore this show
Podcast research with Pod Engine